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Sept NPD
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I tried to find Sonycowboy's earlier thread where we were discussing the chance of a 3rd party, simultaneous release selling more on Xbox than PS2, but no luck. Interesting to see it happen with Burnout 3(mind you it didn't sell huge) and with more impressive numbers, Battlefront. The question is will the Xbox versions stay ahead?
Razoric said:Interesting trend here...
XBX $39,379,728 265,067
PS2 $38,046,609 253,295
2 XBX FABLE $29,948,580 604,084
5 XBX SW: BATTLEFRONT $13,395,470 275,186
6 PS2 SW: BATTLEFRONT $12,949,310 267,465
14 XBX BURNOUT 3: TAKEDOWN $6,164,830 124,327
PS2 Burnout somewhere below. haha
Xbox Live? Better graphics? Go Xbox!
In the long run, PS2 will win out. This is simply a reflection of hardcore gamer tastes. Give it 3+ months, and the PS2 versions should consistently outsell.
BILL CLINTON
Banned
why does ANYONE care about GBA #'s?! i have a GBA, I play it about once a month on average... it sells predominantely to little kids, who have little in common with the average user of gaming age forums IMO... yet we still care to see how many kids got a GBA this month with pokemon insertcolorhere???
SolidSnakex said:
I work in Customer Service and people call all the time and ask if we have Xboxes(aswell as PS2s.) Xbox is sold out all over town in every store, just like the PS2. I don't need any industry reports, as I work in retail and know this for a fact. If you really need some kind of reports, I think EB games a couple months back issued a statement saying how well the Xbox and PS2 were selling(and sold out in a lot of places). I think Game Stop has reported this aswell. As I'm pretty confident in this, please forgive me for not looking up any links for you.
Unless you are in the retail channel or know exactly how many PS2s were shipped compared to how many Xboxs were shipped, I don't see how you could make your previous statements is all I'm saying.I can't believe no one has made a special point to mention Pikmin 2's massive bomb
yeah it got quoted along with hardware sales and quotes like "ouch!" but I think you all need to take a hard look at the situation. The game was out the entire month, recieved as big of a TV/online/print campaign as Nintendo does, got insanely positive reviews, and was clearly Nintendo's "big" title for the month, and it's a certified BOMB.
That actually worries me far more than the hardware sales do. That says to me that Nintendo simply can't sell Gamecube software anymore, no matter what. When will they have a situation more favorable to put up good NPD #s than they did here? What did the original Pikmin sell? like 1.2 million? more? That makes this a very high-profile sequel, and it'll be lucky to hit 350-400K for it's entire lifespan.
This seriously calls into question whether we'll even see anything else from the series, in my opinion. After the reviews, campaign, and performance of the previous title, to only sell 130,000 copies... lordy lordy.
yeah it got quoted along with hardware sales and quotes like "ouch!" but I think you all need to take a hard look at the situation. The game was out the entire month, recieved as big of a TV/online/print campaign as Nintendo does, got insanely positive reviews, and was clearly Nintendo's "big" title for the month, and it's a certified BOMB.
That actually worries me far more than the hardware sales do. That says to me that Nintendo simply can't sell Gamecube software anymore, no matter what. When will they have a situation more favorable to put up good NPD #s than they did here? What did the original Pikmin sell? like 1.2 million? more? That makes this a very high-profile sequel, and it'll be lucky to hit 350-400K for it's entire lifespan.
This seriously calls into question whether we'll even see anything else from the series, in my opinion. After the reviews, campaign, and performance of the previous title, to only sell 130,000 copies... lordy lordy.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
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BILL CLINTON said:
A LOT of GAFers have GBA, and a lot play pokemon as well.....and they play it more than once a month. You/=everyone.
BILL CLINTON said:
a.) I've kept a detailed listing/spreadsheet of Nintendo's GBA titles for quite awhile now and
b.) I've already put in over 36 hours in Pokémon FireRed (which I chose since I bought Red originally and later Ruby) and
c.) consider the GBA SP the best system this gen.
GDJustin said:I can't believe no one has made a special point to mention Pikmin 2's massive bomb
yeah it got quoted along with hardware sales and quotes like "ouch!" but I think you all need to take a hard look at the situation. The game was out the entire month, recieved as big of a TV/online/print campaign as Nintendo does, got insanely positive reviews, and was clearly Nintendo's "big" title for the month, and it's a certified BOMB.
That actually worries me far more than the hardware sales do. That says to me that Nintendo simply can't sell Gamecube software anymore, no matter what. What did the original Pikmin sell? like 1.2 million? more? That makes this a very high-profile sequel, and it'll be lucky to hit 350-400K for it's entire lifespan.
This seriously calls into question whether we'll even see anything else from the series, in my opinion. After the reviews, campaign, and performance of the previous title, to only sell 130,000 copies... lordy lordy.
GC is a dead console.
Mrbob said:
I never believed it for even a moment until I saw Pikmin 2's sales. Now I'm inclined to believe you. A system can be third and still be alive and kicking, as the GCN has been since it's inception in America. But Pikmin 2's sales scream death to me.
etiolate said:
the #5 game sold 33k. i dont really think its a joke.
if the xbox somehow manages to outsell or come within a couple thousand of the PStwo in october then the year belongs to MS. PStwo hype doesnt really seem all that major and its big games are all sequels to sequels. Looking at fable it shows that gamers are hungry for new stuff. halo isnt exactly new but it hasnt been milked dry yet either.
Meier said:
Even being way way off in my guesstimate of how much Pikmin 1 sold, I'm standing by my Pikmin 2 prediction. For it to sell 350K by year's end, it'll have to sell an avg. of 75K a month oct-dec, and that isn't going to happen. it'll do 75-90K in October then wallow in the the 30-40K range for a while.
Other items of note...
XBX ESPN NHL 2K5 $1,922,700 97,983
PS2 ESPN NHL 2K5 $1,897,349 96,566
So another title sold more on Xbox.
PS2 STREET RACING SYNDCTE $4,840,836 97,316
XBX STREET RACING SYNDCTE $3,498,198 70,415
GC STREET RACING SYNDCTE less than 19,000
I didn't expect it do as well as it did.
XBX ESPN NHL 2K5 $1,922,700 97,983
PS2 ESPN NHL 2K5 $1,897,349 96,566
So another title sold more on Xbox.
PS2 STREET RACING SYNDCTE $4,840,836 97,316
XBX STREET RACING SYNDCTE $3,498,198 70,415
GC STREET RACING SYNDCTE less than 19,000
I didn't expect it do as well as it did.
GDJustin said:I can't believe no one has made a special point to mention Pikmin 2's massive bomb
Its' sales aren't that bad. Quirky semi-RTS titles just aren't going to sell mainstream... even with the Nintendo branding on there it's only going to do so much. Having the Nintendo name on the box will get it consistent sales to parents, and it will probably sell quite well throughout the holiday.
SolidSnakex
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"I can't believe no one has made a special point to mention Pikmin 2's massive bomb "
It's the GC and no one is really surprised when it or its games do bad anymore. It's more surprising when it actually has a hit.
The best selling game this year is Madden and it only took a month to accomplish that. So that's all you really need to know that gamers aren't that hungry for new experiences.
It's the GC and no one is really surprised when it or its games do bad anymore. It's more surprising when it actually has a hit.
Barnimal said:
The best selling game this year is Madden and it only took a month to accomplish that. So that's all you really need to know that gamers aren't that hungry for new experiences.
Rocket Punch
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GDJustin said:I can't believe no one has made a special point to mention Pikmin 2's massive bomb
yeah it got quoted along with hardware sales and quotes like "ouch!" but I think you all need to take a hard look at the situation. The game was out the entire month, recieved as big of a TV/online/print campaign as Nintendo does, got insanely positive reviews, and was clearly Nintendo's "big" title for the month, and it's a certified BOMB.
That actually worries me far more than the hardware sales do. That says to me that Nintendo simply can't sell Gamecube software anymore, no matter what. When will they have a situation more favorable to put up good NPD #s than they did here? What did the original Pikmin sell? like 1.2 million? more? That makes this a very high-profile sequel, and it'll be lucky to hit 350-400K for it's entire lifespan.
This seriously calls into question whether we'll even see anything else from the series, in my opinion. After the reviews, campaign, and performance of the previous title, to only sell 130,000 copies... lordy lordy.
Yeah, it's depressing. Correct me if I'm wrong but the first Pikmin was not a big performer right away either, what with being a new IP and all but it's sold somewhat steadily to be sitting at just under 1 million last time I checked. The sequel has severely underperformed and it's really sad considering how brilliant it is. Hard to say really, maybe christmas will see it spike in sales but that's a long shot with all the titles still coming out from now til then.
BILL CLINTON
Banned
Meier said:
AKKK!!!
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
lol. Remember that thread about September being Nintendo's month? With Pikmin 2 anticipation? EFRAOWNED. PICKBOMBED.
This is no shocker outside the confines of this forum. The GC is a fairly boring console in a crowded market.
Kinda shocked that the Xbox beat the PS2 again. I wonder if it can withstand the new model and GTA?
This is no shocker outside the confines of this forum. The GC is a fairly boring console in a crowded market.
Kinda shocked that the Xbox beat the PS2 again. I wonder if it can withstand the new model and GTA?
SolidSnakex
Member
Mrbob said:
His talk about all the momentum Ninteodo and the GC had? It's had zero momentum since then, nothings really made it pick up any sales on a month to month basis even with Pikmin 2. All that's left is MP2.
SolidSnakex said:
didnt mario kart DD outsell everything last fall? and it was a sequel to a property that hadnt been used in YEARS. allowing space between good properties helps sales alot. so maybe its not necesarily new but just not milked. madden is a guaranteed seller too so its kinda unfair to compare madden with anything else. its not as if madden is just going to flop anytime soon.
BILL CLINTON
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deadlifter said:
yah there are tons of great games for GBA, I have some... but i'd rather play a game on my big screen with a controller sitting in my comphy chair... the only time i play GBA is when I am on the go or waiting somewhere, hardly an ideal experience.. otherwise, i dont want to sit in my house playing a game on that little screen.. i'd rather play my snes/genesis...
BobbyRobby
Member
Now I feel like an asshole for not buying Pikmin 2.
BILL CLINTON
Banned
deadlifter said:
RE4 will do better than pikmin, but its just not a heavyweight title anymore...
Operations
Member
Surprised? He's just another PR puppet like Perrin Kaplan and George Harrison; they're pretty much powerless and irrelevant in the big Nintendo scheme.Mrbob said:
SolidSnakex
Member
Barnimal said:
So you think the PS2's big games are going to flop then since they're sequels to sequels? That's what your post seem to suggest. I don't see how a game that's previous version ended up selling 4million within a span of 2 months is going to suddenly flop. Even the Double Pack for the PS2 and Xbox sold extremely well.
Mrbob said:
It's his fucking job dude, jesus. I mean whatever, rag on Nintendo for making stupid decisions if you like. I do. But try to understand that Reggie's entire purpose at nintendo is to talk about how great everything that ever happens to them is and how bright their future is, no matter what. No matter how much he or the rest of nintendo is thinking "we're fucked" he'll alayws be bullish.
What "action" do you want the guy who is essentially Nintendo's mouthpiece to take? Talk... louder?
I know...it really is a bit sad.Mrbob said:
I can't help but to think of this quote:"What company, right now, is driving category sales? If you said someone other than Nintendo, you're wrong. We have momentum, have had it since late last year; and if you don't feel it yet, you will -- I'll promise you that." -Reggie
