Clarke and Craig aren't broken, but the fact that they released so much synergy with Daria was risky.
Levy and Piercing Runes are the broken things about her deck though.
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Clarke and Craig aren't broken, but the fact that they released so much synergy with Daria was risky.
Levy and Piercing Runes are the broken things about her deck though.
Well, I just lost hard to a Spell Dragoncraft.
Opponent had all three pendants on the board by turn 7. Got Angelic Barraged, and Sniped to death (after an earlier turn where I got 8 right to the face from enhanced Eyfa + 2 pendants)
Edit: Wow, just lost twice in a row to those Seraph decks that run Olivia + Prince of Darkness.
Opponent had all three pendants on the board by turn 7. Got Angelic Barraged, and Sniped to death (after an earlier turn where I got 8 right to the face from enhanced Eyfa + 2 pendants)
Edit: Wow, just lost twice in a row to those Seraph decks that run Olivia + Prince of Darkness.
So I've been getting mad salty in Ranked with my Forestcraft deck lately because it feels like every deck I'm fighting here has, like, 5 different gold/legendary cards prepped to just completely shit me up
Got salt enough to buy like 3 RoB packs and the first one was
goddamn
EDIT: why is it when Veight dies he sounds like fucking Chip from Sonic Unleashed
Got salt enough to buy like 3 RoB packs and the first one was
goddamn
EDIT: why is it when Veight dies he sounds like fucking Chip from Sonic Unleashed
I've faced multiple meme dragon decks today...
JO Dragon twice, and now Wildfang Dragonewt Altered Fate combo.
Edit: AMAZING, I constantly face Dragon and Sword when I play Haven.
I pick my Dragon deck, and BAM, vs. Shadow, the ONE CLASS I hate facing as Dragon.
Edit 2: Three times today. I switch to Haven, I face Sword and Haven. I switch to Dragon, SHADOW AGAIN. (I beat this one, but still)
I'm wondering if there's something in the way matchmaking works...
JO Dragon twice, and now Wildfang Dragonewt Altered Fate combo.
Edit: AMAZING, I constantly face Dragon and Sword when I play Haven.
I pick my Dragon deck, and BAM, vs. Shadow, the ONE CLASS I hate facing as Dragon.
Edit 2: Three times today. I switch to Haven, I face Sword and Haven. I switch to Dragon, SHADOW AGAIN. (I beat this one, but still)
I'm wondering if there's something in the way matchmaking works...
Yeah, apparently there was something in damage calculation that mucked up something somewhere so it's not in the game right now. Means you have to do it yourself and fast.
In other notes, I'm actually really satisfied with how flexible my Forestcraft deck has become. I'm shocked to see Petal Fencers be so effective.
G E T E M E V E R Y O N E
One my of friends started playing today.
On her first roll she got :
2 Imperial Dragoon, 1 Eldwood and 1 Erasmus.
I told her to reroll since ,while not exactly the worst legendaries, they are not a great start for new players either.
On the second roll we only got Creberus and Nephthys.
We will give it a few more shots another time.
Also, I made it B3 with my Nephthys deck without too much trouble.
Reaching A0 shouldn't take long now.
On her first roll she got :
2 Imperial Dragoon, 1 Eldwood and 1 Erasmus.
I told her to reroll since ,while not exactly the worst legendaries, they are not a great start for new players either.
On the second roll we only got Creberus and Nephthys.
We will give it a few more shots another time.
Also, I made it B3 with my Nephthys deck without too much trouble.
Reaching A0 shouldn't take long now.
honestly all of them are trash or meme tier at best, definitely reroll.
shadow is a fun class to start with but it's pretty bad right now, I don't know about that. Nep is really almost meme tier, control decks without it are much better right now actually. You just have to play so much trash for it to pull out and makes your deck really bad against almost everything when you have like 5 8 drops.
I think you want to roll for runecraft cards, it's so OP and easy to play.
shadow is a fun class to start with but it's pretty bad right now, I don't know about that. Nep is really almost meme tier, control decks without it are much better right now actually. You just have to play so much trash for it to pull out and makes your deck really bad against almost everything when you have like 5 8 drops.
I think you want to roll for runecraft cards, it's so OP and easy to play.
I certianly have 0 problems with the Nep deck so far (currently at a 7 game winning streak) , despite facing quite a few aggro blood and tempo rune decks.
I suppose this might change drastically at A0.
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I made it to A0.
I'm currently on a 12 game winning streak despite facing mostly top tier decks.
After a few rerolls my friend we finally got a fantastic pull.
You know this is going to be good when the second pack has an animated Bahamut.
The other legendaries were:
Tia, Vampire Queen, Odin,Atomy, Pascale, lord of the flies and Imprial Dragoon.
I'm currently on a 12 game winning streak despite facing mostly top tier decks.
After a few rerolls my friend we finally got a fantastic pull.
You know this is going to be good when the second pack has an animated Bahamut.
The other legendaries were:
Tia, Vampire Queen, Odin,Atomy, Pascale, lord of the flies and Imprial Dragoon.
"within 30 days of completion"
agh, was hoping they'd drop sooner.
Anyways, I'm getting a little bored since my dailys won't pop for a good series of hours. Is it a good plan to try and get into private matches with some of you, to see if my decks are working well with my playstyle or not? If I'm doing misplays, and so on?
Congrats!
I'm slowly trying to climb with my Ward Ramp Dragon deck I used to go from B0 to A0, though I've made some alterations here and there.
Toughest deck to beat with it is Shadow, which I struggle tremendously against, especially with all of their removal, and then cards like Khawy.
Standard will give you those emblems by default. The expansions give you a legendary emblem if you open them.
Aside from the expansion legendaries some emblems (and their respective sleeves) were limited to earning points in the monthly season. These are:
Bellringer Angel
Urd
Snowman
Otohime's Bodyguard
Elana's Prayer
Elf Girl Liza
Crystalia Lily
Underworld Watchman Khawy
SliceSabre
Banned
I wish I could get Bellringer Angel and Otohime's Bodyguard emblems. I love those two cards so much.
MrSaltyPringles
Member
Maybe i should stop being lazy and try to reach A rank by the end of the week... Been playing too much unranked lately :/ I want that Khawy sleeve
you don't want to rank up really, ranking up is kinda bad in this game. One could just stay in B, benefit from win streak bonus to grind score rewards faster and easier. Nothing interesting is happening up there, it's just even more daria and aggro blood... what you want to do is to tank your rank to never hit A instead.
MrSaltyPringles
Member
Ahh alright then, seeing waves and waves of daria/aggro blood would be a livivg nightmare. Im at C0 so maybe reaching B0 would be a good end point. Thanks for the tip!
B0 gets you the sleeve rewards for the month, so it's an ideal place to stay if you don't want to grind for daily missions. The problem is that B is a lot easier than A so if you're a decent player with a decent deck you're going to rank up automatically. The one thing that I really miss about B is that I used to be able to play goofy decks and still get the odd win, but not so much any more.
MrSaltyPringles
Member
Kinda wish they reset ranks per season...
They do specifically for the Master rank.
Essentially there's two leagues, the climb to Masters, and then Masters.
That's why people who hit Masters either want to climb that for top ranking, or just play whatever decks since they're already Master and don't need to worry about dropping out.
I hate Daria...
My opponent got me down to 5 HP, I play Bahamut. Opponent plays Daria and floods the board, so I just play my second Bahamut to clear everything. My opponent plays last two cards, one being Blade Mage (2/2 + Storm) and gets me to 3HP. I play Genesis so my Bahamut and Genesis clear the board.
My opponent top decks Daria. Gets another Blade Mage + Angelic Snipe.
So annoyed about that one.
My opponent got me down to 5 HP, I play Bahamut. Opponent plays Daria and floods the board, so I just play my second Bahamut to clear everything. My opponent plays last two cards, one being Blade Mage (2/2 + Storm) and gets me to 3HP. I play Genesis so my Bahamut and Genesis clear the board.
My opponent top decks Daria. Gets another Blade Mage + Angelic Snipe.
So annoyed about that one.
kiunchbb
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Yeah A0 is full of combo roach, aggro blood, and Daria. Once you get to AA you start seeing a lot of control decks that runs 3 Odin and Bahamut and tons of healing just to counter all the Daria and aggro deck.
I don't even know what decks counter those control decks. Aggro can't out damage their ward and heal, and their Odin and Bahamut make playing control decks drag on to 15+ turn and decided by top decking.
michaelius
Banned
Dimension Shift
At the moment Aggro Shadow is becoming my favorite deck - it's more resilient than other aggro decks, it can play some serious value game with Urd combos and carrots and it still has possibility of 11 damage to the face from empty board (5 ghosts + 2 cerberus spells + evo).
I think I need to start working on a new control deck, Shadow doesn't really cut it in A0 anymore.
Right now I have:
1 of each Saber
1 Odin
2 Alexander
1 Olyvia
2 Vampire Queen
2 Eidolon of Madness
and 1 Fafnir (as well as some other legendaries that don't matter)
I haven't bought a starter deck yet and have even vials of 3 legendaries, 1 maybe 2 more if I turn everything I don't need into vials.
Any suggestions?
Right now I have:
1 of each Saber
1 Odin
2 Alexander
1 Olyvia
2 Vampire Queen
2 Eidolon of Madness
and 1 Fafnir (as well as some other legendaries that don't matter)
I haven't bought a starter deck yet and have even vials of 3 legendaries, 1 maybe 2 more if I turn everything I don't need into vials.
Any suggestions?
michaelius
Banned
I'm not sure if it's enough - even if you went with blood where you have 2 queens (and third one in prebuilt) and 1 Odin already most of them cost like 40k vials total.
Cheap control decks would be Dimension Shift and Seraph.
I miss PtP it made some nice control decks with most important cards being 6 golds.
Cheap control decks would be Dimension Shift and Seraph.
I miss PtP it made some nice control decks with most important cards being 6 golds.
Mid range decks have all been killed by Daria, so your options are going to be either Aggro, Combo, or Control. The only Combo decks that are being run right now are Combo Roach, which wants 3x Ancient Elf or Dimension Shift that wants a bunch of Merlins, so I think that's out as well. For the rest, there are a few Aggro decks that seem pretty viable right now. I'm still getting pretty decent win rates with my Banner Sword, and after tweaking my Aggro Blood deck, I've been doing pretty great, so the latter might be a good way to go. The only Gold cards it needs are 3x Vania and 2x Vampiric Fortress. Not needing any Legendaries means it's pretty easy to build.
I've also had some luck with an extreme low-follower Seraph deck, but you'd need at least 2x Enstatued Seraph and 3x Themis's Decree (and ideally 3x Tribunal of Good and Evil). In a more normal Seraph deck your Eidolons would be a pretty good fit. Unfortunately your other Legendaries are looking for Control Sword or Blood decks and those are the most expensive decks in Shadowverse to build.
EDIT: The Seraph deck I'm running has been working out pretty well! It's specially tuned to not have any followers for a Daria deck to hit, so it must be awfully frustrating for those decks to go up against. The last one I face died to a Seraph (the only win condition in the deck) with an Evolve left over - there simply was never anything on the board to evolve into and nothing for Piercing Rune to hit. It feels great to toy with that deck!
Thanks! I know that blood and sword control are very expensive, but I'm just more of a control player.
I just got a Bahamut and I have 13k vials. If I dust all the meh legendaries I can go up to 20k.
From the decks both Sword and Blood seem very helpful (or I guess forest if I want to play combo).
I also got a second Olyvia. Is there any point in keeping her? I have never seen deck lists with 2 copies.
Combo Roach is pretty decent, but a lot of decks are starting to tech in more wards so its effectiveness might go down in the next little while. The most control heavy deck out there is probably pure Seraph since it can't win through damage so wards don't matter. Of Blood and Sword, I'd say that Sword is more refined right now, and you can tell that the expensive cards in that deck are going to be good currently and probably in the future as well. On the other hand, who knows if cards like Bloodthirsty Matriarch are going to be any good in the long run?
I've seen it in extremely control-heavy decks. The idea with two of them is more to ensure that you draw at least one rather than needing all those evolve points.
EDIT: I've been trying out a Combo Sword deck starring Cursed General. The main gimmick of the deck is to play Cursed General on 6 and immediately play Assassin to give him stealth, and then to burst the hell out of your opponent on 7-8. I don't know how reliable it is, but I've been able to win with it and it's a blast to play. Playing and evolving Floral Fencer on 7 for 7 damage to face is nuts!
I use 3 Olyvias in a Dragoncraft carrot deck. Dragoncraft to get play points earlier and carrots to trade with the opponents creatures. Works well at A0 rank.
Dropped back to A0, and had a heck of a losing streak.
Most recent loss against a control Sword who played two Alberts, then Olivia.
I dropped my Bahamut, then the opponent countered with a Bahamut. I dropped Odin, my opponent countered with Sahaquiel (evo) + Lucifer combo, then dropped Lucifer (evo) and a ward.
Most recent loss against a control Sword who played two Alberts, then Olivia.
I dropped my Bahamut, then the opponent countered with a Bahamut. I dropped Odin, my opponent countered with Sahaquiel (evo) + Lucifer combo, then dropped Lucifer (evo) and a ward.
michaelius
Banned
I found one super interesting variant of roach combo with White Wolfs and Homecoming
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/jcg-open-vol52
Initial results are very promising since everyone now is so concentrated on one turn kills with roach that they forgot that Tias exist and almost no one expects Cynthia anymore.
edit: yeah it's legit - I got to AA0 today
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/jcg-open-vol52
Initial results are very promising since everyone now is so concentrated on one turn kills with roach that they forgot that Tias exist and almost no one expects Cynthia anymore.
edit: yeah it's legit - I got to AA0 today
kiunchbb
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I found one super interesting variant of roach combo with White Wolfs and Homecoming
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/jcg-open-vol52
Initial results are very promising since everyone now is so concentrated on one turn kills with roach that they forgot that Tias exist and almost no one expects Cynthia anymore.
edit: yeah it's legit - I got to AA0 today
Congratulation, I hope you will have fun fighting all those control decks.
michaelius
Banned
It's ok - at least there's less Daria now and I can outrun most other control decks.
The reason why Combo Roach has been so popular is because if the only 2-drop follower in your deck is Rhinoceroach, then Goblin Mage's ability basically becomes "Fanfare: Draw a Rhinoceroach from your deck". This tutoring ability makes getting Roaches very reliable, and is the key mechanism in the deck. If you dilute the 2-drop slot with other cards, then it actually ends up weakening the deck, regardless of how powerful those other 2-drops are. It's the same reason why Nephtys decks only run Khawy in the 7-drop and Nephtys and Mordecai in the 8-drop and why Banner Sword decks tend not to run non-Banner Commanders. So effectively, Goblin Mage has murdered Liza.
On a slightly different note, I'm beginning to think that Goblin Mage is secretly the strongest card in Rise of Bahamut. She's found her way into a ton of different decks, and usually as a key component, not as a filler like Unica or Dingdong. While Goblin Mage is obviously at her most powerful if there's only one 2-drop in the deck, even if you have 3-4 2-drops she can still be really effective.
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