You should sit in a meeting with engineers men and women that just want to say the same thing 10 different ways. The biggest offenders at my office of being re-explainers are all women. People telling people stuff they already know has been around for a long time. Women just get feeling hurt or say it is demeaning, when in reality it is just dumb people want to hear themselves talk. I will actually do it to my female boss on purpose just to make her laugh.
No fun allowed, that's Captain America disrespecting Captain America!Hey look, I found the 1 person on planet Earth who didn't see Endgame, seeing as how he thought this reference was Jennifer "objectifying" Cap:
That's a one off line with double entendre, not a mini rant.Hey look, I found the 1 person on planet Earth who didn't see Endgame, seeing as how he thought this reference was Jennifer "objectifying" Cap:
You all should check out Orphan Black if you liked Tatiana and this is your first time seeing her. She plays different people, clones of each other who lived different lives. A pretty soft sci-fi show with intriguing concept.
Edit: She plays all of the characters amazingly well.
Come on bro, you were supposed to keep that Endgame scene in mind for occasions like She-Hulk 3 years later.
Sorry, I'll reset my woke-o-meter. This won't happen again.Come on bro, you were supposed to keep that Endgame scene in mind for occasions like She-Hulk 3 years later.
Would disagree, in the comics buce banner chooses to give her a blood transfusion and save her, the show just shows the blood getting into her accidentally. Need to make sure male hulk doesn't look good in anyway.
Not sure where that angle on it is coming from, but in the comics she's shot and Bruce is the only one there with the correct blood type.
...Well now Buce gave her blood in a different way. Who cares? Buce.
Well, she doesn't even self reflect on the dude she punched as Hulk and as a lawyer she should know it was unwarranted(all they did was talk to her at that point) but it's never brought up again. She said she was in control whenever she changed so that makes that scene even more damning for her.
Which is why, if done right, there could be character growth. I'm theorizing here, but as of now with episode 1 I think the point of those scenes you're bringing up and also her attitude towards her cousin Bruce are hints towards her having a growth arc. She is being painted by the show as a know-it-all who thinks she has a grip on everything. Things will probably get better for her in episode 2 and 3 once her popularity skyrockets and she suddenly has tons of men who want to date her(according to the trailers), then she will slowly come to realize that she can't just be selfish with her powers and she will have to step up more to be a hero.
She might become more humble later on but it seems even the show gives her a pass on the scene I brought up, not even Bruce mentions it to strengthen his point that she does need some training with her new powers and that she could've killed someone if he hadn't stepped in.Which is why, if done right, there could be character growth. I'm theorizing here, but as of now with episode 1 I think the point of those scenes you're bringing up and also her attitude towards her cousin Bruce are hints towards her having a growth arc. She is being painted by the show as a know-it-all who thinks she has a grip on everything. Things will probably get better for her in episode 2 and 3 once her popularity skyrockets and she suddenly has tons of men who want to date her(according to the trailers), then she will slowly come to realize that she can't just be selfish with her powers and she will have to step up more to be a hero.
The reason I'm slightly worried is because the worst thing they can do is ruin any potential character development and use this as a springboard season. Season 1's aren't usually supposed to be meant for that, but this is Marvel so
We just simply don't know that yet or if that prior outburst of her's will cause a rift in the public's image of her. However if they never touch on it, then you'll be right.It could be possible that she'll be more humble later on but it seems even the show gives her a pass on the scene I brought up, not even Bruce mentions it to strengthen his point that she does need some training with her new powers and that she could've killed someone if he hadn't stepped in.
Let's just assume the guy is OK after taking a punch from a hulk.
The guy doesn't take a punch from her. Hulk stops her before she can reach him. Also Jennifer said that the first time she transformed she couldn't remember what was happening to her, but then after the lab incident it "settled in". You can also see in the lab incident she isn't herself for the first few seconds, and then her personality comes back.She might become more humble later on but it seems even the show gives her a pass on the scene I brought up, not even Bruce mentions it to strengthen his point that she does need some training with her new powers and that she could've killed someone if he hadn't stepped in.
Let's just assume the guy is OK after taking a punch from a hulk.
Fixed now.
In the John Byrne run, yes.
Hmm you're right about the punch, it's actually a grab she tries to do when Bruce stops her but still that wasn't the first time she changed when the dudes bothered her. That's right after she gets Banner's blood on her wound.
Ok, but to be super nitpicky, she doesn't say that after the first time she was fine. She says she is fine "now". You can see her enter full on rage mode at the start of the lab incident, before becoming "normal".
I was more pointing towards her remembering, I'll can assume she had no control over changing till after the lab events.
Even if we accept that her memory issues resolved completely after the first transformation (and that's not clear since she just says she is fine "now"), there is still the question of how much control she had during "rage mode", which is unresolved. The responsibility she bears is proportional to the control she had over her actions.
Indeed, but she as a lawyer doesn't seem interested in examining what the legal ramifications could've been if Bruce hadn't intervened. Even if she didn't remember anymore, Bruce should've brought it up with when she put up her "I don't need help" attitude.
I agree Bruce should have brought it up. I think she is being stubborn in not wanting to consider the possible implications of her powers, given that she just wants to go back to being a lawyer.
When pointing these things out, you have to cover your bases when it comes to these arguments. I myself agree with your overall point, but someone is going to come into this thread and prove to you that Captain Marvel and Tony Stark, both characters being arrogant and self centered, are vastly different based on how they were presented in their movies.
Tony got put down several times - he was portrayed as the “villain” in Civil War and was defeated by Cap. Also, he died.
Nothing twisted there - it was changed so that she wouldn’t be saved by a man.
I disagree with this entirely. Civil War is probably my favorite Marvel movie, and the reason it impressed me so much is because it allows each side of a serious and contentious issue to present their best argument while never telling the audience what to think. That sort of thing is hard to find anywhere these days, much less in a Marvel movie.
Funny how that goes with early CGI for PR, like I explained in another thread …
Tony constantly got humbled for being arrogant, in fact that was his entire character arc
Well, they say that the way she processes gamma radiation is different. So I don't think she had the same problems Bruce had to begin with.
