No, project Berkeley in its entirely, 4 games across two systems, cost $47 million
and that cover the cost of creating two engines + 2 entire tool set
Shenmue 3 shatters Kickstarter Game records ; $2 million achieved in 8 hours
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No, project Berkeley in its entirely, 4 games across two systems, cost $47 million
and that cover the cost of creating two engines + 2 entire tool set
INFINITY TR1GG3R
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It'll slow down now, people just wanted this locked down as a certainty, hence the mad rush to get it over the line.
$5 million doesn't look out the question though.
WoolyNinja
Member
I don't understand the people who are against kickstarting this game?
People wanted this game to be made and no publishers would take the chance and fund it. There is apparently a publisher whose willing to take a chance with it as long as there's some real user driven support via Kickstarter. Now people can make sure the game they wanted to be made actually happens by paying for the game ahead of time.
Nobody is forcing these people to pay $10,000. They're doing it because they have the money and want to see this game get made. I don't see a downside here? You can talk all day about how it sets a bad precedent, etc but bottom line is this game wouldn't exist without some Kickstarter money, and now it does.
People wanted this game to be made and no publishers would take the chance and fund it. There is apparently a publisher whose willing to take a chance with it as long as there's some real user driven support via Kickstarter. Now people can make sure the game they wanted to be made actually happens by paying for the game ahead of time.
Nobody is forcing these people to pay $10,000. They're doing it because they have the money and want to see this game get made. I don't see a downside here? You can talk all day about how it sets a bad precedent, etc but bottom line is this game wouldn't exist without some Kickstarter money, and now it does.
Most likely if anything like that happened it wouldn't be through Kickstarter and would be some warped preorder campaign, where the more that pre order the more stuff would be added to a game... Except I don't think that will really work with development cycle of those games. Maybe stuff would be arbitrarily locked away until certain social media goals were reached? That crap could catch on for those.
More realistically I think we could see this happening more often for lower mid tier titles. Which essentially has been happening with publishers abandoning those.
2 Slice Toaster
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This honestly seems like a great way for a publisher to float a new IP. An initial kickstarter that is downsized to ensure it is possible to fit within the scope of the initial budget goal but can be expanded afterwards based on the public response.
Then why can people pay more then the asking price of the game? If this was a feasibility study they wouldn't be taking multi-thousand dollar pre-orders.
Never got to play this game and am PRAYING for an HD Collection. I almost feel like they have to. One game is on a system that died in two years and most didn't have. The other game was only released in Japan on the DC and released on the Xbox which again most people didn't own, especially overseas.
This is one of the FEW times an HD Collection is totally justified. Don't disappoint and take my money.
This is one of the FEW times an HD Collection is totally justified. Don't disappoint and take my money.
MetalSlug
Member
It also had an EU release.
So you don't think this is a feasibility study? Please enlighten us with your conspiracy theory.
The kickstarter project FAQ says there won't be a physical PS4 copy, but hopefully they are smart enough to make that a stretch goal later, or make a new tier for it. I'd bet if they made a $500 PS4 physical collectors edition with emulated prequels it'd sell a silly amount of copies.
I'd start stocking up on can goods at that point.
I would bet money on Shenmue I and II HD being released within the next 2 years.
In any case, the first stretch goal was just met, Shenmue III will ship with a film recap of Shenmue I and II just like Shenmue II did with Shenmue I.
$70 Mill?? This game has no chance lmao. I hope a publisher intercedes.
Slim, but that is up to SEGA they have just allowed Yu to use the IP they still own it.
TheBryanJZX90
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I'm curious about the comparison between this and Bloodstained. Are there just a lot more Shenmue fans? Was it just really great timing with the announcement in Sony's conference among other long-wanted games? Is it the higher initial goal creating a sense of urgency among hardcore fans that if they don't pay a high amount the game won't reach 2 mil and won't get made? I'm really interested to see where this ends up.
Just pulling reactions out of my ass, I wouldn't have ever thought Shenmue would have a bigger fan base than Castlevania. Shenmue only had two releases, both on very minor platforms. I wonder how many Shenmue backers have actually played the original games?
Just pulling reactions out of my ass, I wouldn't have ever thought Shenmue would have a bigger fan base than Castlevania. Shenmue only had two releases, both on very minor platforms. I wonder how many Shenmue backers have actually played the original games?
Skellig Gra
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Yeah, and there are a lot of idiots out there. People pay to have some Chinese guy level their character in MMO's. What if you could kickstart CoD and the perk was get the game 2 weeks early and start at level 40. No one would bite on that?
Shenmue has the hearts of every Sega fan who ever lived.
adamantypants
Member
I'm normally against HD collections but this is one I could get behind. The systems it released on are dead and over a decade old. This series is a best case scenario for an HD collection
metareferential
Member
I guess some publisher will eventually step in or - more likely - is already financing this.
I'm intrigued by the role of Sega in all of this.
Apparently they are not involved but they have allowed Yu to use the license (which is a nice and the fair thing to do by them, by the way).
Will we get arcades in Shenmue III with Hang-on or Space Harrier machines? Will there be Virtua Fighter posters? Or Sonic of Bonanza Bros figurines? Will they switch them to Sony ones?
(that would be weird)
On a more serious note, will Yu Suzuki be allowed to use all the assets that were supposedly made for the sequels? (there is a good chunk of unused graphics and music in the originals). Seeing how the trailer is using the main themes I guess so...
Apparently they are not involved but they have allowed Yu to use the license (which is a nice and the fair thing to do by them, by the way).
Will we get arcades in Shenmue III with Hang-on or Space Harrier machines? Will there be Virtua Fighter posters? Or Sonic of Bonanza Bros figurines? Will they switch them to Sony ones?
(that would be weird)On a more serious note, will Yu Suzuki be allowed to use all the assets that were supposedly made for the sequels? (there is a good chunk of unused graphics and music in the originals). Seeing how the trailer is using the main themes I guess so...
gamergirly
Member
Yep. We must never forget that Sega created some of the best memories in the industry
SuperEpicGuy
Banned
What's so good about shenmue? Did it bring something new to the table back when it was released? The trailer on kickstarter is pretty lackluster but it is alpha.
I like Castlevania, but Iga got to make a lot of them. There were like half a dozen games like SotN made directly by Iga. There are not a lot of games like Shenmue and it also has one. linear plot. Those factor into what's going on, maybe.
Understatement of a lifetime. Shenmue was so radically far ahead of anything else at the time. A true visionary.
Shenmue is one of the most ambitious, forward thinking, revolutionary titles ever made. It has had an enormous influence on everything that has come out since. Modern gaming owes its roots to Shenmue.
sixteen-bit
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I thought Suzuki later revised that number to $47M?
ScepticMatt
Member
Sadly it also popularized quick-time events, one of the worst bullshit of "gaming" (imho of course)
I would bet too, and would be great for preservation and general sense. But at the same time I'm a bit scared about that prospect, knowing it would be Sega handling the port and marketing of it. If they do a low key release or botcher the port, it could result in bad sales and harm the positive momentum Yu/Sony have managed.
At least I hope Sega waits until the Kickstarter is over (easy) and until Yu closes the additional supporting deal we are all suspecting exists.
Dragon's Lair popularized QTEs.
SuperEpicGuy
Banned
Quite a statement there. Do you have any examples? I'm curious as I've watched some gameplay and all I saw were cutscenes and quick time events.
GameGuru59
Banned
It is? I don't remember much talk about that at the time. I'm sure it's a great game and all...
It invented them, I sure wouldn't say it popularized them.
RichiRamjag
Member
Yeah, the comparison is silly.
OnionPowder
Member
Thank you. I see a lot of misinformation over Shenmue. The budget was caused by Sega, not Yus fault. Having to switch between 2 completely different engines and redesigning the game multiple times. The game also sold 1.2 million on one of the worst selling consoles major consoles.
Laevateinn
Member
People always bring up Shenmue when they complain about QTEs but I think Shenmue is one of the only games I played where QTEs seemed natural and didn't interrupt the flow.
Dragon's Lair was the first time I saw something like that but Shenmue changed it by pemitting some input failures and even worked them into the resulting animations. It was a nice touch!