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Amin_Parker
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I am playing the game in English language. The English sub is very good. Unfortunately I could not find an option for Japanese in the settings but maybe its there somewhere and I'm overlooking it by accident.
Danjin44
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I think Japanese voice is free DLC like with Safety difficulty but I could be wrong.
TheDuskwalker
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Japanese voices and journalist mode are a free DLC.I am playing the game in English language. The English sub is very good. Unfortunately I could not find an option for Japanese in the settings but maybe its there somewhere and I'm overlooking it by accident.
Danjin44
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BouncyFrag
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OT is delivering.
Danjin44
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Why tho? For first time its best played blind, walk-through after finish your first playthrough.
celsowmbr
Banned
I accept you opinion but I would prefer a walk-through
Danjin44
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Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Mermaids are real good early on. Could not have beaten that first boss were it not for some mixing and matching of skills and summons.
Northeastmonk
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It’s all about weaknesses and that’s for the most part magic. I’ve put the last couple levels in Magic. I’ve only focused on strength if I don’t want to consume MP to down an enemy. Once you hit a hard enemy, figure out the weakness and then pour all your attacks, demons, skills, and etc into hammering as much damage from that weakness.
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Danjin44
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Good physical attackers Demons usually in mid and late games, I would don't rely on them early on. Unfortunately my copy doesn't arrive until 16th, but I'm guessing in 5th game physical attacks are not as over powered as it was in Nocturne
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Jsisto
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Are there element based physical attacks later on? Just seems like demons with strong magic stat are far more beneficial overall. I remember there were elemental physical attacks in Tokyo mirage sessions that balanced things out.
Northeastmonk
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I’m not very far in SMTV, but from what I know there is something later on that will scale with strength, so it wouldn’t be bad to keep it up during leveling.
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ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
In all honesty, I really like the game. Gameplay is probably the best for me in the SMT series (though I like 3’s world and environment more). Love the open world exploration and hunting various quests and searching for the Mimin.
My issues are the performance of this game (frame drops, stutter, laginess) and the camera.
My issues are the performance of this game (frame drops, stutter, laginess) and the camera.
Nico_D
Member
Personally I prefer SMT character grind to Persona's social link grind and pretty excessive visual novel style. I rather play more than read in my jrpgs
Danjin44
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I enjoyed S.link when it was first introduced in Persona 3, it was new and exciting but by the time we reached P5 I was really getting tired of it, it felt like filler episode of anime that doesn't move the main plot forward, it just felt tidious.
Ezquimacore
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All I gonna say is Leanan sidhe > Apsaras
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nightmare-slain
Gold Member
this is my first main SMT game. i did think i would enjoy it but wasn't 100% sure. i'm hooked on it. it's one of those games i need to force myself to stop playing and if i don't play it i keep thinking about it. there is somethings i'm confused about but the gameplay is really good. i was worried because it's a lot of combat and in persona i never took it too seriously but it's so satisfying. any performance issues i've long forgotten about. yeah the resolution is low and so is the framerate but it's not stopping me enjoying it in the slightest.
nightmare-slain
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i think you would enjoy it.
if you liked the persona combat then you'll like this. in persona your party is your friends (ryuji, ann, morgana, etc) and they have control of their own personas/demons. in SMTV the party is you (nahobino) and you need to recruit demons (like you do in persona by talking to them) to join your party. the rest of your combat options are similar: skill (attack/magic), items, guard, escape, pass. the overall battle mechanics are a bit different. SMTV has magatshuhi which is like a critical bonus meter that fills up. you try hitting demon weakness to get an extra turn. there is a moon phase but i don't quite understand that yet. i tried recruiting a demon but it said i couldn't because of the moon. i need to learn what that is all about.
there is a plot but it's not in your face like Persona where you can spend hours reading. the beginning sets it up and you'll get cut scenes here and there. you won't also be able to spend time with your friends and you can't boost your relationship with them. the whole social sim thing that persona has going on isn't in SMT. most of the game is combat. it's more like Dark Souls in how it tells the story.
the map isn't open world so you can't just go off exploring wherever you want. you follow the paths but still i think it's fun exploring the world. the game encourages you to go looking in every corner. you could just run from marker to marker but if you take your time exploring you'll be rewarded. example: i was going to head straight to the marker to progress story but thought i'll go up that path and see what's there. i discovered a cave (never seen it on the map) and inside i got a side quest.
if i were to sum it up the game feels like a mix of persona, nier automata/astral chain, botw, and dark souls. i love all those games so i'm loving SMTV
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Danjin44
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I agree, let’s stop calling every game that’s difficult “Souls” games and SMT has been around longer than any Souls games and always been known for it’s difficulty.
Not mention that SMT has entirely different combat system and gameplay loop.
MMaRsu
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Its the dark souls of jrpgs
Danjin44
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Except SMT came first and just because it’s difficult doesn’t make it automatically a “Souls” games.
I personally really getting tired of this trend.
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Danjin44
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Don’t worry I was just talking overall, I just find this stupid trend of calling every that difficult “Souls” very obnoxious.I was joking
Croga
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I wouldn't say cheap in the same sense, but a player built party with a lot of elemental weaknesses can get trashed if you aren't careful.
Every enemy (including standard "trash" mobs) will happily exploit any weaknesses you have on any demon in your party (if they have the abilities/skills to do so) to give themselves many extra press turns which could cause a wipe without a single turn for you if the enemy group is large enough.
The death scenario that most people feel is cheapest in this series is more then likely getting hit by insta death Light or Dark spells, which work both for you and for the enemies as per everything in the game. If the main character gets insta gibbed, game over, even with a full party. (You can get survive with 1hp endure skills however)
These cheap deaths are also completely avoidable though by inherited resistances, so for me personally, I get LIght / dark resistance on the main character as fast as I fucking can in this game lol.
It's all about building your team for what you are facing. You might die to a boss to just see what he has skill and resistance wise, then rebuild a team to go again.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
if that's cause i mentioned dark souls....i don't even think dark souls is difficult. it just requires more patience/strategy and doesn't hold your hand which people mistake for difficulty. Compared to Persona then SMT is like that. You can breeze through Persona with little effort but SMT will require you to put more effort into it. Also i was thinking more in terms of combat/story ratio and how the story is told. the story isn't in your face like persona but is told in little bits at a time or requires you to dig deep to find stuff out.
Danjin44
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I get all that but still SMT has been around long before Demon’s Souls, so saying SMT is “soul-like” doesn’t really make sense.
SMT has always been SMT.
SidViscous
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Never played any SMT games before, some parts of this I really like, but other parts are not what I was expecting at all.
When you first get transported to the future/demon-world, I was expecting that to be a temporary cut-scene and that I would get returned to the modern-day school setting once I hit a checkpoint or something; but that was 3 hours ago now.. erm.. is this running around open-world bit what the game "is"?
Voice acting is great, combat mechanics are deep and interesting, visual presentation and character designs are chef-kiss. Music is fucking awful, when it just cuts into that battle music it feels like someone accidentally sat on the TV remote and changed the channel. Open world stuff is really let down by the frame-rate feeling like shit with the high input lag.
I'll stick with it, still holding out hope i'll get returned to the "current world" stuff..
When you first get transported to the future/demon-world, I was expecting that to be a temporary cut-scene and that I would get returned to the modern-day school setting once I hit a checkpoint or something; but that was 3 hours ago now.. erm.. is this running around open-world bit what the game "is"?
Voice acting is great, combat mechanics are deep and interesting, visual presentation and character designs are chef-kiss. Music is fucking awful, when it just cuts into that battle music it feels like someone accidentally sat on the TV remote and changed the channel. Open world stuff is really let down by the frame-rate feeling like shit with the high input lag.
I'll stick with it, still holding out hope i'll get returned to the "current world" stuff..
Danjin44
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Give up on that, this game is not Persona. Also are you kidding me about the music!? The music is so fucking good!!!
EDMIX
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So basically a Souls ripoff?
Danjin44
you fucking lied to me bruv, and to think I was this ready to give it all up and get SMTV, but if they just doing some Souls clone, fuck it...I"M OUT!The music is not Persona good (plays a Persona track in SMTV)
"just nasty, what is this 90's jazz pop shit? da fuck"
Dan - "Well that track is actually from Persona"
me - " ok..but you didn't let me finish doe, what is this track that has taken over my soul, I bet its from Persona and SMTV had to COPY IT"
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EDMIX
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Agreed. For those of us old enough to remember, SMT has always been a hard series and sorta started a lot of that with RPGs, though I don't think either is directly copying each other, it indeed predates Souls series
Danjin44
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Oh yes Atlus had time machine and saw there going to be Souls game and so they ripoff Souls before there was such thing as souls game.So basically a Souls ripoff?
EDMIX
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I want them to do HD versions of those old ass Disney games that was hard as fuck for no damn reason and someone states they are copying Souls with remakes lol
The best is when its a old game or series and someone states something odd like that. I heard one recently where someone stated BF2042 was copying Call Of Duty having big maps and vehicles and such lol So when you hear it, you can't help but to give a deep lolz
Krathoon
Agreed. I feel its the best teacher. When I was a kid and first played JRPGs, they were so hard and I kept dying and It forced me to learn why I was dying and what i needed to to avoid it etc.
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Danjin44
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To me SMT is one of the few RPGs which Status ailment, buff/debuffs and enemy weakness are super important.
The key to victory in SMT is strong party composition and you get that by fusing demons as often as you can.
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Krathoon
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He is a fancy lad. Initially, I thought he was a woman.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Like all JRPGs, sometimes luck goes against you. That typically means your cheeks are getting clapped in this game. So if you consider that cheap, then yes.
Good news is there are ample possibilities to save so even a cheap death from a roll of the dice shouldn't cost you too much time/progress. Just reload, maybe adjust your party appropriately, and within a few minutes you're back in the fight.