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[chickdigger802]

Well, good for them.

Bizarre that some are comparing this to Skyrim.

Blame that ign article.

 

[cajunator]

Xenoblade Chronicles might be the best Wii game. That game is amazing.

It doesn't have moe Zelda, which docks it some serious points.

 

[Medalion]

The Triforce. The Triforce. The Triforce. The Triforce. The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.The Triforce.

Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo!

 

[Truth101]

It's still 96 on Metacritic

It will drop when the 8/10s and 8.5s are added.

 

[Koodo]

Hopefully Nintendo takes note from these tragic scores and realises Zelda desperately needs a revival, possibly something along the lines of Other M.

Shading Other M?

 

[Chet Rippo]

I am also pretty positive G4TV is not considered by Metacritic. I won't hurt your precious score, GAF.

Why is that? Do you need some sort of accreditation from metacritic or something?

 

[hyduK]

Nintendo made a choice long ago on where they are prioritizing their control schemes. If you don't like that certain path, that's fine. But also realize that opinion on Skyward Sword's controls will put you in the vast minority of opinions. Even the most negative reviews so far have lauded the control scheme while only one has lamented its use.

The entire game is based around MotionPlus. The game wouldn't exist with a typical controller, you can't just wish you could play it with one when it wouldn't work. Now, do you wish you could play a new Zelda without motion control? Fine. But that's not the game you're reviewing or one that even exists.

Again, they made a choice. As such, if the reviewers don't like the choice they're allowed to dock points for it. If it's a third party dev working within technical limitations of a console I would say that it's unfair...but since it's not it's perfectly fine for someone to shave a point off if they felt that choosing to go for a traditional control scheme would have resulted in a more responsive and better experience.

To reiterate:

Developer has no choice but to do something, does it to the best of their abilities, still docked points - WRONG.
Developer has two choices, chooses to go a way that the reviewer (whether or not their in the minority) doesn't think best suits the game, docks points - PERFECTLY FINE.

 

[Lonely1]

4. Some reviews are obviously written with a background in mind, like the way game-pro or GB reviews starts by bashing Wii and motion control in general. People don't take them much serious I suppose.

This is my position. I know that Wii pointer controls for FPSes can be very good, so I immediately dismiss an opinion one that says otherwise. My wii has seen a fair amount of play time, so a piece that starts with "wii has no games" or "is collecting dust" is something that probably won't resonate with my taste.

 

[Thoraxes]

I honestly feel cheated. Sub 90 Metacritic will ease the pain though.

I almost feel like pretending to have a meltdown to make you feel better. It's just not the same if it's not from my heart though.

 

[Divvy]

Even gamefaqs posters are smart enough to realize they can't hold up much of an argument of 'klepek is fat'.

"Klepek is too thin! He should eat a sandwich, he's a growing boy."

 

[Instro]

It doesn't have moe Zelda, which docks it some serious points.

:cajun

 

[Nirolak]

It will drop when the 8/10s and 8.5s are added.

Quite a few are in there, but generally the bigger driver is when you get a lot of 9's.

Major games usually end up with 50-90 reviews, so it reaches its first stability point about 1-2 days after launch, and then usually goes down 1-2 points over the next week as the most mainstream places (like newspapers) come in since they tend to use a larger scale.

 

[BY2K]

Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo!

The what now?

 

[Orayn]

It will drop when the 8/10s and 8.5s are added.

Giant Bomb and 1UP's are already there, just FYI.

 

[ivysaur12]

It doesn't have moe Zelda, which docks it some serious points.

It has its issues as well, but damn is it not well put together.

MonolithSoft is one of the best Japanese developers. They've completely delivered on some of the best JRPGs of their generation this one and last (Baten Kaitos Origins and Xenoblade). I can't wait to see what they do with the WiiU.

 

[Truth101]

Quite a few are in there, but generally the bigger driver is when you get a lot of 9's.

Major games usually end up with 50-90 reviews.

Oh, my cache hasn't updated yet.

 

[Feep]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

Skyward Sword, reviewed by some dude named Jason Wishnov who no one knows or gives a damn about. Recycled content, and MW3 got a 5? I'm sorry and this site may have just nerd baited me into writing this but this is why this site is so unpopular. This is complete garbage. The reviews are inconsistent and the scoring makes little to no sense.

Maybe this site could be taken seriously if game reviews had some consistency to them, at all. Maybe you would get more than 4 comments in an hour on your site if anybody gave a damn what you guys gave it. Give MW3 a 5 and Skyward Sword a 4...and this is why I'm not going to visit this site anymore.

 

[Lonely1]

Hopefully Nintendo takes note from these tragic scores and realises Zelda desperately needs a revival, possibly something along the lines of Other M.

You are not Wario.

Oh man, the hate is coming on in:

Don't start posting that here. :/

 

[cajunator]

Am I the only the that looks at this and thinks "awesome"?

Seriously, if that many people are still giving it 100's and 90's people, it isn't going to be a bad game. At all.
so stop worrying so fucking much.

 

[guek]

I almost feel like pretending to have a meltdown to make you feel better. It's just not the same if it's not from my heart though.

8/10 WAT???

outrageous.

 

[AniHawk]

Haha. And have Link experience past trauma from seeing his family being slaughtered by Ganondorf.

an event that leaves him speechless.

 

[Nirolak]

Oh, my cache hasn't updated yet.

Sorry you beat my stealth edit. Not everything is in yet, but it's mostly a proportional issue in being able to tell yet.

 

[Medalion]

Think of it this way, all these 8's will help us lower our expectations so we can really enjoy this game because the hype for this game was suddenly getting way outta control

 

[Laughing Banana]

I just want to say that I am proud of you guys <3

 

[Dark Schala]

Am I the only the that looks at this and thinks "awesome"?

No. Those are perfectly good scores.

For anyone who's played this already... I want a "good"/"ok" answer without much elaboration/be as vague as possible... can you please go into how the world building is in this game in terms of NPC content and atmosphere? (I'm thinking in terms of Majora's Mask or The Wind Waker.) Thanks.

 

[Orayn]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

I dunno, kind of a lame-ass hate surge if you need to scrape comment pages. I won't believe until this thread has become a conflagration.

 

[KefkaTaran]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE HOW DARE YOU REVIEW THIS GAME.

an event that leaves him speechless.

haha, Miyamoto, hire this man.

 

[Lord Ghirahim]

it's never interested me at all, but i might as well try this game.

Xenoblade is godly. It would be a potent system seller if Nintendo pushed it appropriately.

 

[Jzero]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

Don't cry yourself to sleep

 

[AniHawk]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

if you need a place to hide, i know a guy named jimmy who might help you out.

 

[Feep]

Don't cry yourself to sleep

My self-worth has been shattered

 

[Truth101]

Sorry you beat my stealth edit. Not everything is in yet, but it's mostly a proportional issue in being able to tell yet.

I see, I don't really pay attention to Metacritic much, so I didn't know.

 

[fallagin]

Shading Other M?

That is an amazing gif.

 

[Franklinator]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

Skyward Sword review, commented on by some dude named krismagus who no one knows or gives a damn about.

You wrote a good review.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

Were you the one that reviewed Madden Warfare 3 though???

Just curious.

 

[Instro]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

They gave MW3 a 5/5? That does make me mad! I need to tip something over.

 

[Kazerei]

an event that leaves him speechless.

And yet there will be hours of internal monologue

 

[Mistle]

Spoiler

Yes, and yes. The backtracking isn't so bad, though.

Spoiler

Last two questions for now: Do the 2 dungeons in each area differ greatly in theme/style/gameplay mechanics? I'd assume yes.

And how would you respond to TSA's opinion to backtracking? True?

"Backtracking in General
Most of you hated the Temple of the Ocean King. Revisiting the same dungeon, having to go through the same areas you already completed, only to get to the new stuff. Well, that's what Skyward Sword's overworld is. You go to these zones, complete your objectives, move on, only to come back later - at least two more times each. And most of the time, you have to cross the same areas again just to get to the new parts. You see, in previous Zelda games, you went to new zone, and you usually didn't leave it until you had made your way through the entire thing. Sure, sometimes it meant going back somewhere to get an item before you go go ahead, but you weren't going to new areas until you completed that zone. This ties into that density argument, too."

Note for people curious about these spoilers in my past few posts: I asked if the game has a sense of scope and takes you to many different areas. He responded without giving away any locations. We also discussed how many dungeons there are, how they are placed within the world, and also backtracking. It's generally pretty spoiler free imo (and i've been on a media blackout since the tgs miyamoto demo) but they're still tagged for safety. Just letting you guys know incase you are curious about highlighting

 

[Nirolak]

I see, I don't really pay attention to Metacritic much, so I didn't know.

My main interest usually isn't in the reviews themselves, as I play a lot of lower rated games, but I just like statistics. :lol

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

Feep's long con makes sense now

He's been posting here so we'll know who he is so we have no choice but to accept his review as gospel.

I'M ON TO YOU.

 

[ivysaur12]

Again, they made a choice. As such, if the reviewers don't like the choice they're allowed to dock points for it. If it's a third party dev working within technical limitations of a console I would say that it's unfair...but since it's not it's perfectly fine for someone to shave a point off if they felt that choosing to go for a traditional control scheme would have resulted in a more responsive and better experience.

To reiterate:

Developer has no choice but to do something, does it to the best of their abilities, still docked points - WRONG.
Developer has two choices, chooses to go a way that the reviewer (whether or not their in the minority) doesn't think best suits the game, docks points - PERFECTLY FINE.

Except that they game they're not reviewing the hypothetical Skyward Sword with classic controls. That game does not exist because it could not exist because the game is entirely based on MotionPlus.

Now, do the technical aspects of the controls not work? That's something to talk about. The EGM review seems to think so. No one else does. EGM isn't even complaining about the motion controls, the review even mentions that they loved the implementation in Twilight Princess.

And for the record - no review has mentioned motion controls as being inferior to standard ones. Not one. Sure, if you're writing that review, I guess you could say that. But that would make you a pretty shitty reviewer.

 

[Medalion]

There are not enough Gamestop magazine racks to knock over right?

 

[Feep]

Were you the one that reviewed Madden Warfare 3 though???

Just curious.

Of course not.

I kind if wish I had, though. I would have 2/5 or 3/5'ed that shit, I'm totally serious.

 

[Divvy]

If only some well known gaffer did that review instead of that no name Jason Wishnov. That's probably not even a real name.

 

[Kai]

Updated Numbers....

Average 93 Solid

100 - IGN
100 - Game Informer
100 - Edge
100 - Wired
100 - Guardian
100 - Metro GameCentral
100 - CCC
100 - Nintendo World Report

98 - Computer and Video Games
98 - ONM UK
90 - Games Radar
90 - Gameblog.fr
90 - Games(TM)

85 - EGM
83 - 1up
80 - Gamepro
80 - Giant Bomb
80 - G4TV

To be fair - the two most influential scores that matter in the mainstream (though I don't personally agree they should be - I am more of a Giant Bomb guy) - IGN (is the highest viewed online gaming site) and Game Informer (the highest subscription print magazine) have both given it a perfect.

Meta Critic currently sits at 96 - they haven't yet put in EGM or GamePro and I am not sure if they will put in G4TV.

 

[EatChildren]

I have Feep's home address and have kept a detailed log of his daily schedule over a month. I wonder how much this will fetch on Craigslist.

 

[Socreges]

Xenoblade is godly. It would be a potent system seller if Nintendo pushed it appropriately.

So it sounds like you're very likely the worst villain to ever grace the Zelda series. How does that make you feel?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Of course not.

I kind if wish I had, though. I would have 3/5'ed that shit, I'm totally serious.

I just wanted to call it that really.

 

[ivysaur12]

Oh man, the hate is coming on in!

Which review is yours, again?

 

[FreeMufasa]

I hear they're working with Star Ocean's writers on the next one.

oh god