GitarooMan
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Smash Wii U & 3DS Downloadable Characters Discussion and Information on Smash Ballot
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Gonzo The Great
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Do it. You know you want to.
I want to vote for the croc but....
I don't really like his re-design....
Or his manual appearance...
But if they go the Mega Man route and base his appearance from in-game then... it would be pretty awesome.
Yeah, there's really nothing stopping you from voting as much as you'd like, nor are you tied to rational ideas and Nintendo franchises.
Also, what's up with the gender question? Why is that essential information for a character voting ballot?
GiantBreadbug
Member
I'm not sure how many times you need to be told this to understand it, but here goes:
Adding Ice Climbers to only the Wii U version DOES NOT "screw over" the 3DS players.
3DS players, short of a technical miracle, will NEVER EVER get to play Ice Climbers on the 3DS version. Ever. So they're being screwed out of exactly nothing. It's not like the ICs would be added to only one version just to fucking spite the other.
So no, it would not hurt anyone. If you seriously think otherwise, then I have no clue how to convince you of how insane that is. If anyone is getting screwed over, it's Wii U players and Ice Climbers fans.
Stop. Please stop shitting on people when they talk about Ice Climbers. It looks unbelievably foolish because the reasons you think are keeping them out are not really real. I assure you that the great 3DS uprising you are imagining if the Wii U gets ICs but they don't is not a thing.
Weltall Zero
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I voted for Simon Fucking Belmont. Because 30 years later he's still an important character that influenced a generation of games and gamers, appeared in a TV show alongside Pit, Mega Man, King Hippo and Mother Brain. His games spanned several Nintendo systems.
And here we are arguing about whether some flash-in-the-pan characters are making it into a league of evergreen personalities like Mario and Pac-Man? Wonder Red? Bayonetta? In thirty years nobody will even know who the hell they are! Even Shadow is a joke (I hope it really was a joke and that nobody voted for him). I get that you're enthusiastic for your underdog IP because it doesn't get the recognition you feel it deserves (Bayo, 101). But let's be real. We've got Pac-Man, Mega Man, Mario, Link, Samus, Pit and on and on. Simon Belmont needs to be a part of those great 80s characters.
Edit: Inspired by the above and I totally forgot to put it in the voting box
Forward special: Cross (boomerang)
Down special: Holy Water
Up special: Axe
Standing Special: Dagger
Smash: The Holy fucking Cross that obliterates everything on screen
I would be really happy with Simon as a character (within my top five choices for sure), but being a Konami property and considering how deep up their asses they seem to have their heads lately, he seems much more unlikely than Wonder Red or Bayonetta.
Also, that comment about nobody knowing who they are in 30 years is wrong on many levels. For one, there's no evidence that Simon will be better known by then, but more importantly, Smash 4 is a game about what is well known right now, and Bayonetta sure trumps Simon, like it or not. You can worry about what's well known in 2045 when Smash 10 begins development.
Labrynian Rebel
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Balmung421
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Voted for SMT and MonHun characters. Both are big brands on Nintendo consoles as of late, and the former has a new game coming out with FE. Nintendo pls
Because he is "too big"? There's absolutely zero reason not to downsize him a little bit. Having him the same size as Charizard would work.
Also, there's no such thing as a thrown away vote.
SuperLeviathan
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Simon would make the most sense of the Castlevania characters. He was the protagonist of the first two of the NES Castlevania's and the first SNES one. As we've seen with Mega Man, Duck Hunt, Little Mac and ROB, Famicom/NES nostalgia is big with this series and Simon would fit right in with that.
And in terms of wishful thinking, I'd love to see Popeye. His arcade game was a bonafide Nintendo/Miyamoto creation, and would fit in with the history in Smash very well.
And in terms of wishful thinking, I'd love to see Popeye. His arcade game was a bonafide Nintendo/Miyamoto creation, and would fit in with the history in Smash very well.
cooljeanius
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1. So is Captain Syrup
8. So does Captain Syrup
10. Captain Syrup is a villain
11. Captain Syrup is a pirate
So that's only 4 of your points that also apply to Captain Syrup, but I'd say that's still a significant amount!
tim_pkmn89
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It's wasting development resources on something not everyone can get
Unfortunately, I'm lacking photoshop skills too.:/ So I was hoping a shopper would jump in
GiantBreadbug
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While this is a more valid reason than "would screw over 3DS players," it's still important to remember that Sakurai has said in words from his mouth that they had Ice Climbers working on Wii U. If that is true, which I assume it is, it takes little resources then to get them to full fledged character.
MannyToons
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You did good. <3
ShockingAlberto
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I imagine so they can get marketing information from it and figure out what genders like what characters the most. Likely not tied to this specific poll.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Well it already got me many times when they announced characters I wanted or I am interested in. Basically almost all characters.
Duck Hunt won tho. Lucas announcement is the most hype because it's telling us that we are getting more DLC characters.
I'm happy that we are back together. SmashGAF 4 Life.
Exactly. I'm glad that I'm not only person felt same thing.
Oh damn. I forget all about Dillon.
Lights and Waves
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i dont want any dlc in my nintendo games
Then don't buy it.
ShockingAlberto
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Well, ballot stuffing is obvious. People voting for the same character multiple times. Joke answers are things like Goku, people putting Dante and adding "from the Devil May Cry series)" in parenthesis in the name, Reggie, etc.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Ill probably vote for Geno. His back story is basically HES A FUCKING AMIIBO COME TO LIFE. Nintendo should be all over that shit.
Same logic could apply to the Chorus Kids to a degree (who we don't know if they had 3DS issues or not, so everything about them is just speculation).
GiantBreadbug
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That reminds me, aren't characters who are already Assist Trophies off-limits?
ShockingAlberto
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i dont want any dlc in my nintendo games
Well then you're in an odd thread about possible future DLC when two DLC characters have already been announced, one comes out this month, and Nintendo's been doing DLC for about two years now.
If you've come from three years in the past to our present, but your future, let me suggest you 1) don't buy Assassin's Creed Unity and 2) do buy Villager and Wii Fit Trainer amiibos to sell on ebay. Trust me.
GiantBreadbug
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Yeah, I'm very hopeful for them as DLC. I actually voted for them, cause Rhythm Heaven is rad and needs a character so bad*.
*rhyme unintentional
I don't think I ever heard that but I could be wrong. I could easily see them choosing an AT for DLC. Especially when the ATs are generally good playable character material.
Dark Samus would be cool, as would some others.
ShockingAlberto
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3DS version is the best selling one.
If anything, "screw the Wii U version" is probably a more enticing argument.
If anything, "screw the Wii U version" is probably a more enticing argument.
Don't worry, I also put in a vote for the Chorus Kids.
GiantBreadbug
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I've seen the argument thrown around that Ice Climbers Wii U exclusive DLC would entice some players who don't already own that version to buy it, which I'm not sure I really get. Though, on this forum we have people who buy (or dont buy) Smash games for single characters, so maybe.
Still seems like a stretch to me.
Together now
DoctorFling
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Guys, the Facebook message for the Smash voting thing says to vote for whichever Nintendo character you want most, I don't know if third party requests will be considered. Can't find the message now, but maybe we should adjust expectations.
Can't find the message now, but maybe we should adjust expectations.balladofwindfishes
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Thinking about how Smash 4 might contain nearly every character ever in Smash is... pretty exciting.
Wow... the thought of everyone potentially being back. That would just be insane. The expectations for Smash 5 returning everyone would be outrageous. How is that even going to work?
I mean, it doesn't seem like anyone is off the table at this point. I would have lumped Lucas with Roy as "not important enough to bother" and yet Lucas is almost here. With the miracle Nintendo pulled with DK64, I don't even know if Snake is out of this.
Will we look back in 2 years and have a game where only Ivysaur, Ice Climbers and Snake are cut? I mean, I don't even think that's too outside what they could do (especially since Pichu and Roy could just be Doc style clones and be super easy DLC)
E3 will be kind of exciting. I 100% expect Wolf to be there. Maybe even a new clone? Roy returns? Snake?
Wow... the thought of everyone potentially being back. That would just be insane. The expectations for Smash 5 returning everyone would be outrageous. How is that even going to work?
I mean, it doesn't seem like anyone is off the table at this point. I would have lumped Lucas with Roy as "not important enough to bother" and yet Lucas is almost here. With the miracle Nintendo pulled with DK64, I don't even know if Snake is out of this.
Will we look back in 2 years and have a game where only Ivysaur, Ice Climbers and Snake are cut? I mean, I don't even think that's too outside what they could do (especially since Pichu and Roy could just be Doc style clones and be super easy DLC)
E3 will be kind of exciting. I 100% expect Wolf to be there. Maybe even a new clone? Roy returns? Snake?
ShockingAlberto
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Nobody who owns a Wii U would probably solely buy Smash for 3DS and not Wii U.
Nobody would be enticed by Ice Climbers to buy a Wii U.
The gap between people who own a Wii U versus who own a 3DS is something like 25 million. That's just the gap.
I see where you coming from. But Sakurai will deliver, no problem!
And I have the feeling when Wonder Red doesn't make it into this iteration, he will never join Smash Considering every fighter was made from scratch, Smash 4's roster is really a huge achievement. Just look at those animations. oh boy.
For future Smashes I think they can build up from this.
GiantBreadbug
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Yeah, I'm also interested in seeing how each version does with DLC sales. I know I'll probably be spending the extra dollar to get the stuff I buy on both versions.
Hey Shocking_Alberto, are you voting in this thing? I don't know if this process actually makes any difference, but I'm curious who'd have your vote.
I want Wolf back, but part of me feels like that's already going to happen (perhaps shown alongside Star Fox WiiU at E3). I also want Ice Climbers and Snake back, but feel there are other complications that make them not possible.
As far as straight-up newcomers... Not sure.
I want Wolf back, but part of me feels like that's already going to happen (perhaps shown alongside Star Fox WiiU at E3). I also want Ice Climbers and Snake back, but feel there are other complications that make them not possible.
As far as straight-up newcomers... Not sure.
chaosblade
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I almost voted none and said there were enough characters, and I didn't want to feel the need to buy DLC to have a "complete" game.
Decided that was no fun though.
NipplesAndToes23
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From Super Star Saga.
Oh he was bullshitting. I need to stop believing the first thing I see written on the net by a random dude.
Alberto voted for Impa.
Hey, Impa would be interesting (especially if they incorporated the god-like Naginata from Hyrule Warriors), but be careful what you wish for -- they might give us the ALBW Impa instead of SS or HW.
This is probably so far from the truth but I've been entertaining a strange thought for a while that seems to be getting a bit more traction after this direct.
I imagine that a hidden positive to doing all this work is that whatever engine and assets they're using for this Smash are far more modular and modern than the ones they've had to use previously for Melee/Brawl and as such, creating more characters, assist trophies, and stages now might mean a comparatively smaller workload for any future titles. It also seems like they're ready to embrace the idea of Smash as its own dedicated "service" or "shop" where buying the game gets you the base but getting extra "hats" (re: characters) over time base on current Nintendo's properties is the endgame.
That's why you play it safe and specify titles. I said Skyward Sword Impa but in the little blurb I mentioned that taking references from HW Impa would be swell.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I voted, it was for Skyward Sword (or Hyrule Warriors) Impa.
JB-the-Hunter
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Square owns him, but that doesn't make him a Square character. He's only ever appeared in Mario. Those Mario games are the ones he would represent if he was included.
From Super Star Saga.
Dude that's not what I meant. I meant that he doesn't represent Square or any of its franchises, not that Square doesn't own him.
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