I'm expecting to see an Isaac costume for the Mii Swordfighter.
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Smash Wii U & 3DS Downloadable Characters Discussion and Information on Smash Ballot
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balladofwindfishes
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This is the same one I expect as well.
I have a handful of Mii costume expectations:
- A third generic outfit in the vein of the T-shirt and hoodie maybe pajamas?
- An outfit for an in-game Brawler since weve gotten Link (Swordfighter) and Samus (Gunner) outfits maybe Captain Falcon?
- Tom Nook holding a bell bag gun Tom Nook, K.K. Slider, and Isabelle are Animal Crossings big three
- Mega Man Volnutt, Star Force Mega Man, and maybe Bass outfits the other in-game Mega Man models have been turned into costumes
- Assist Trophies and other non-playable models seem to adapt well to Mii costumes, so Doc Louis (Brawler), Tingle (Brawler), Ghirahim (Swordfighter), Samurai Goroh (Swordfighter), Takamaru (Swordfighter), Prince of Sablé (Swordfighter), Dark Samus (Gunner), and Saki Amamiya (Gunner) all seem plausible
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
There better be one. Heck, I would be fine with it being condolence prize for myself.
I would rather to see them reuse Takamaru Mii Costume from NintendoLand. Edited: Eh, never mind. I just saw picture of it. I'm not sure anymore now.
Edited: I wouldn't be surprised if we are going to see Ken Mii Costume and Chun Li Mii Costume for Mii Fighter
UglyRareCharacter
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Maybe none because maybe the K.Rool suit isn't a consolation prize. he was requested a lot before the ballot too you know
SenorArdilla
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K.K. Slider is already Mii Fighter costume.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
and Isabella!
GiantBreadbug
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Any chance we can hear something tonight?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I don't remember if we got any smash-related announcement during weekend so I don't think we should have any expectation for that.
Wasn't the last Smash Direct on a Sunday?
GiantBreadbug
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Yeah but when was it announced? I can't recall if we've had an announcement of a direct on a weekend.
balladofwindfishes
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Wasn't the first Mii hats of the last patch announced on Sunday night in the US? Which would be Monday morning in Japan.
Dr. Buni
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So wait, the DLC comes out this sunday right
It is
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
UglyRareCharacter
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Yeah and people bitching Why Would Any One Vote For That Character are dumb. It's a game ballot! Have fun with this thing!
It is so hype to think we might have some thing completely new and unexpected for a character or stage come this time next week.
It is so hype to think we might have some thing completely new and unexpected for a character or stage come this time next week.
balladofwindfishes
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Sakurai on character selection
His four rules
Four is the big one we argue about a lot. So it seems there really is some "this series deserves more reps" thing going on.
Also the Pokemon are a little iffy on 1 and 2. Other than maybe Mewtwo and Pikachu.
Also this might apply to K Rool, but seems more about Waluigi.
His four rules
Four is the big one we argue about a lot. So it seems there really is some "this series deserves more reps" thing going on.
Also the Pokemon are a little iffy on 1 and 2. Other than maybe Mewtwo and Pikachu.
Also this might apply to K Rool, but seems more about Waluigi.
UglyRareCharacter
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Seems like Banjo where they were out cause of "adult circumstances" like one SG post said
There is no good reason to not have K.Rool
There is no good reason to not have K.Rool
Gonzo The Great
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"Can't" is probably reserved for characters like Master Chief who can't be added to the game because they belong to competitors. K. Rool was obviously not a priority for the base roster due to a lack of recent appearances, but the ballot has proven that relevancy doesn't matter to fans. If K. Rool doesn't get in now, then Sakurai just has a bias against the character.
It's pretty clear that franchise distribution is taken into account, but Sakurai cares about certain franchises more than others. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯
It's pretty clear that franchise distribution is taken into account, but Sakurai cares about certain franchises more than others. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Bias. Yep, that's why...only you Gonzo
I think the issue with K Rool is trying to make him play differently. When I look at the game, characters for the most part need to be played a certain way and even with clones you can't play everyone the same. I feel like a lot of fans want him to be like Bowser with new specials, and that's what is holding him back. The move sets I've seen really give me that image.
I think a neat thing only he could have done would be changing his play style. Changing from standard to Kaptain and the mad scientist and having his moves slightly change to incorporate stuff. Changing standard moves has yet to be done with a character.
Karsticles
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Did we already get ballot results?"Can't" is probably reserved for characters like Master Chief who can't be added to the game because they belong to competitors. K. Rool was obviously not a priority for the base roster due to a lack of recent appearances, but the ballot has proven that relevancy doesn't matter to fans. If K. Rool doesn't get in now, then Sakurai just has a bias against the character.
It's pretty clear that franchise distribution is taken into account, but Sakurai cares about certain franchises more than others. ¯_(ツ
Gonzo The Great
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Bias. Yep, that's why...only you Gonzo
I think the issue with K Rool is trying to make him play differently. When I look at the game, characters for the most part need to be played a certain way and even with clones you can't play everyone the same. I feel like a lot of fans want him to be like Bowser with new specials, and that's what is holding him back. The move sets I've seen really give me that image.
I think a neat thing only he could have done would be changing his play style. Changing from standard to Kaptain and the mad scientist and having his moves slightly change to incorporate stuff. Changing standard moves has yet to be done with a character.
Pros:
- He's popular
- He has a plethora of moveset options
- He has a distinct personality
- He's a heavyweight
- He's a villain
- He's a Donkey Kong rep
Cons:
- "He's ugly!"
- Hasn't appeared in Donkey Kong game since 2007
If he still isn't included by the time Smash 5 rolls around, then yes, Sakurai has a bias against the character.
I like how only heavyweights are trivialized as "Bowser clones" yet nobody ever complains about there being too many medium sized characters of which there are over twenty. K. Rool doesn't even have claws in his original design! Other than the fact that they are both large reptiles, the two characters share nothing in common. K. Rool is unique in that he is a heavyweight who relies on gadgets and projectiles rather than brute strength. He's a dirty fighter who tries to deceive his opponents by playing dead. One idea I had was to make K. Rool the first character who can cancel out of taunts with other attacks. If Sakurai is incapable of coming up with a proper moveset for K. Rool, that's not the character's fault.
No, but we now know that K. Rool isn't "worthless and irrelevant" like some of the people here liked to parrot pre-release.
Green Mamba
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You're going to get another samey Fire Emblem character and you're going to like it, dammit.
Star Fox shrinking? Seems like someone is spitting on Metroid fans from a tall building? Treating F-Zero about as well as Nintendo does? Just straight up forgot about Donkey Kong? Nope, Fire Emblem time.
Star Fox shrinking? Seems like someone is spitting on Metroid fans from a tall building? Treating F-Zero about as well as Nintendo does? Just straight up forgot about Donkey Kong? Nope, Fire Emblem time.
Oh dang, I guess that explains why Ridley keeps getting snubbed!
I mean you're mostly right, but Robin's inclusion basically makes up for the hilarious imbalance.
GiantBreadbug
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Honestly those reasons are kinda true, but I think the biggest factor is just straight up whether or not Sakurai thinks it's a good idea.
His whimsy seems to be a factor. And I say this as a past supporter of a character Sakurai straight up said wouldn't fit in the game.
His whimsy seems to be a factor. And I say this as a past supporter of a character Sakurai straight up said wouldn't fit in the game.
Karsticles
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How do we know he isn't worthless and irrelevant? I feel like I missed something.
He's pretty much DK's Bowser. It's like if Nintendo just dropped Bowser from the Mario games and suddenly he was ugly and worthless.
GiantBreadbug
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See to some extent I agree but I don't think the comparison is that cut and dry.
I certainly think K. Rool is a great contender and a cool character, but him being "so obvious if he's not in then Sakurai bias" is kinda silly considering how many characters are in the race.
I'm basing this simply on fan created movesets, mind you-- but a lot of them seem to have his play-style be a bit of other characters. You have him with boxing gloves (Little Mac), biting (Wario, Charizard, Bowser) and using gadgets to control the screen (Mega Man, Duck Hunt). A possible conclusion I was making is that Sakurai feels like K Rool can be done with other characters then, and nothing he does is unique. I usually use Bowser, because a lot of the standard attacks I've seen are similar to his in this fan suggestions.
I still think there's a moveset that would make him feel unique, but no one has created it yet-- and that's the problem. It's also the issue I have with Dixie-- way too similar in play to Diddy and that's including her specials.
Try doing that marketing line that Sakurai does and apply it to K Rool. I'd actually like to see a suggestion for that line, maybe I can envision a better play style that way.
I honestly feel Dixie and even Cranky seem a bit more obvious than K. Rool just because they've returned in recent games. I like K. Rool, and we need more villians, but Dixie and Cranky just make more sense to me getting in first.
Kinda sucks most people think Dixie would be a Diddy clone :/. I'm positive they could make her pretty different from him.
Yep. There it is. Dixie could pretty much be Diddy's Luigi. Different enough to justify the inclusion.
GiantBreadbug
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I was literally about to post that last part. Take Dixie and make her from Diddy's skeleton but change her up a good bit. I feel like that'd be superb.
I dont think K. Rool is going to be playable, but move set potential isnt an issue. Lets not pretend like each character is 100% unique in every way. If Villager, Bowser Jr., and Little Mac can all use boxing gloves then so can K. Rool.
K. Rool could easily be marketed as a slapstick technologist, which is much different than Bowsers depiction as a fire-breathing, shell-spinning pro wrestler. K. Rool could use his blunderbuss to suck in nearby items and spit them back out at high speeds. Hed also throw his crown, and he could lay out electric land mines. Hed probably use a propeller pack as his recovery. He could also have some kind of rage mechanic where his eye grows and pulsates as he takes damage, giving him super armor or something.
Regulus Tera
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Do you guys think we could get a clone or two if they finish all the other DLC characters before schedule?
balladofwindfishes
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What?
Smash is basically the only thing F-Zero has left where it's still actively being used. Besides Mario Kart cameos.
Dr. Buni
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I wouldn't mind one or two new clones, as long as they aren't more Fire Emblem characters.
Just shows how many Smash fans are ignorant towards the DK series. Dixie has so much potential for an unique moveset.
Green Mamba
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An exaggeration, but taking the Wii U version on its own, F-Zero is essentially living on fumes in Smash, with literally the only new F-Zero stuff in it is a single, redundant remix of a song that's already been remixed twice before.
EDIT: Concerning Dixie, here we have a character who is known for fighting with her hair and the common complaint about her is that she isn't unique enough. Yeah, okay people.
I doubt Dixie would be a clone. Diddy and Dixie were originally designed as a tag team in Brawl. That gimmick wouldn’t have a ton of appeal if both characters had similar move sets. I’m sure a standalone Dixie character would pull heavily from whatever Sakurai had planned for Brawl.
Diddy = acrobatics
Dixie = weaponized ponytail (grabbing, slapping, spinning, poking, etc.)
Diddy = acrobatics
Dixie = weaponized ponytail (grabbing, slapping, spinning, poking, etc.)
MrSaturn99
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Dixie is a higher priority than K. Rool, if you ask me.
TheDinoman
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She definitely wouldn't be a clone in the sense of Falco, Ganondorf, etc in Melee, but I do get the feeling Sakurai would use Diddy as a base and build upon her from there on, much like Wolf and Lucas in Brawl.
NeonZ
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They both would be small sized acrobatic characters. Dixie's moveset itself could be fairly different from Diddy's, due to the focus on her hair, but her unique gameplay gimmicks like spinning attacks or hovering would already be taken by other characters.
She wouldn't be a clone (in fact, due to her lack of a tail, she can't even be a clone), but I can see how she'd add little to the game. At least, if she doesn't have the tag team mechanic that was cut from Brawl. Without that, she's in a situation similar to Chrom's.
She could potentially share having a popgun, too. It would shoot bubblegum instead peanuts though. There's room to make that popgun work different than Diddy's.
Chrom was "just another swordsman," but Dixie would be the first of her kind. Who else in Smash Bros. attacks primarily with their hair? That's a very visually distinctive fighting style.
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As a reminder, people NEED to vote for the GameFaqs Character Battle Winner of 2007, The L BLOCK !
(pictured one of it's fans)
Only songs representing the BEST GAME EVER the reason the game boy is THE GAME BOY .... it needs a character representation !
If you think a third party character would be complicated so vote on the first GAME Nintendo ever made !
The one that STARTED IT ALL !
The HANAFUDA DECK OF CARDS !
Also, having a hanafuda deck of cards as playable character can be the only way to include the Love Hotels that Nintendo started doing bussiness .... as the Hanafuda Stage !
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