IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
so that wouldn't be Inkling tho.
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Smash Wii U & 3DS Downloadable Characters Discussion and Information on Smash Ballot
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so that wouldn't be Inkling tho.
Geminosity
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Back before the internet became truly all pervasive secret characters were sort of interesting because you likely didn't know who was coming unless you were dedicatedly rummaging about fan sites on the net. Now they don't really work unless you go out of your way to avoid talking to anyone who plays the game or reading any of the sites you probably regularly check, which isn't really practical for a lot of people
For peeps who are involved in fighting communities it's a pain in the rear too because it means every setup has to be fully unlocked for any tournaments you're going to run and in a social situation where you go round someone's house who's not an avid fighter, it's painful to see some of the cast missing.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
If you have two or more GCN controllers you can just leave a one-stock match on Final Destination overnight.
EDIT: Already got Jiggs!
balladofwindfishes
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My second cousin used to spend his summers at my grandma's house, so we'd hang out the entire time. He's 364 days younger than I am, so we're basically the same age. We also both loved our Nintendo consoles.
We had worked our way through all the characters and all of the stages (except the N64 ones and Battlefield/Final Destination). Or so we thought...
"No way will this work. Not a chance Mewtwo is in this game, that would be too cool"
Next morning WARNING, CHALLENGER APPROACHING
My cousin and I nearly lost it. We knew exactly who it was from the shadow. Oh my god, that was insane.
And then we heard a few weeks later "If you use every character in classic, you get a strange character named Game something."
Sure enough we tried that as well (it took all day) and sure enough, there was this bizarre 2D man. We didn't know who he was at all. I remember telling my cousin maybe he was from Earthbound, because I heard that game was "weird" and Game and Watch was weird. So we decided Game and Watch was a Earthbound character, maybe from a spin off or something we never heard of.
Also who the heck is Marth and Roy? What's a Fire Emblem? Why does Falco play exactly like Fox? There's a Doctor Mario, what?
WAIT, YOU'RE TELLING ME SMASH 64 STAGES CAN BE UNLOCKED!?
My cousin and I would sneak some reading time at EB Games to look at the Melee guide.
Oh man, Melee just kept delivering on the bombs. For about half a year it seemed like new features, stages and characters appeared.
And now that I'm older, I only look at Melee's requirements, not as ways to trickle in content and surprise me as I unlock it, but rather as annoyances and time wasters.
My cousin and I also didn't even realize Ganondorf was a clone until about a year later when we noticed he was kind of familiar, but we couldn't quite place it. Then we realized he was the same as Falcon and our minds were blown because we had unlocked Ganondorf the previous summer lol.
We had worked our way through all the characters and all of the stages (except the N64 ones and Battlefield/Final Destination). Or so we thought...
"No way will this work. Not a chance Mewtwo is in this game, that would be too cool"
Next morning WARNING, CHALLENGER APPROACHING
My cousin and I nearly lost it. We knew exactly who it was from the shadow. Oh my god, that was insane.
And then we heard a few weeks later "If you use every character in classic, you get a strange character named Game something."
Sure enough we tried that as well (it took all day) and sure enough, there was this bizarre 2D man. We didn't know who he was at all. I remember telling my cousin maybe he was from Earthbound, because I heard that game was "weird" and Game and Watch was weird. So we decided Game and Watch was a Earthbound character, maybe from a spin off or something we never heard of.
Also who the heck is Marth and Roy? What's a Fire Emblem? Why does Falco play exactly like Fox? There's a Doctor Mario, what?
WAIT, YOU'RE TELLING ME SMASH 64 STAGES CAN BE UNLOCKED!?
My cousin and I would sneak some reading time at EB Games to look at the Melee guide.
Oh man, Melee just kept delivering on the bombs. For about half a year it seemed like new features, stages and characters appeared.
And now that I'm older, I only look at Melee's requirements, not as ways to trickle in content and surprise me as I unlock it, but rather as annoyances and time wasters.
My cousin and I also didn't even realize Ganondorf was a clone until about a year later when we noticed he was kind of familiar, but we couldn't quite place it. Then we realized he was the same as Falcon and our minds were blown because we had unlocked Ganondorf the previous summer lol.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I dug the Game & Watch Gallery games on the Game Boy so Mr. G&W's appearance in Melee wasn't a total mystery to me despite only being 10-ish. Had no clue who the Ice Climbers or Fire Emblem guys were though. Vaguely got what Ness and Samus were from, but didn't get into their games until I was older. Everyone else I was already a big fan of.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Got Dr. Mario! Things Melee objectively beats the hell out of Smash Wii U:
-Sound design. Every hit sounds painful. (Smash 64 is better with the bowling pins effects though)
-Classic Mode is short and to the point. (Smash 3DS is even shorter and more to the point though)
P.S. I don't know how the hell I used to play Smash without Tap Jump turned off.
-Sound design. Every hit sounds painful. (Smash 64 is better with the bowling pins effects though)
-Classic Mode is short and to the point. (Smash 3DS is even shorter and more to the point though)
P.S. I don't know how the hell I used to play Smash without Tap Jump turned off.
A Link to the Past
Banned
yesss
Hypothetical moveset:
Neutral B: Suplex's a boulder because she can
Side B: Suplex's a boulder because she can
Down B: Suplex's a boulder because she can
Up B: Points to the heavens
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I got Jiggs, Dr Mario, Luigi, Marth, and Roy in under two hours. I'll start the Mewtwo grind right now and continue tomorrow morning.
Yeah, but at least back then you had the ability to copy save files through the memory card. I imagine stuff like customs would have actually caught on if there was any way to share a complete save file across the community.Back before the internet became truly all pervasive secret characters were sort of interesting because you likely didn't know who was coming unless you were dedicatedly rummaging about fan sites on the net. Now they don't really work unless you go out of your way to avoid talking to anyone who plays the game or reading any of the sites you probably regularly check, which isn't really practical for a lot of people
For peeps who are involved in fighting communities it's a pain in the rear too because it means every setup has to be fully unlocked for any tournaments you're going to run and in a social situation where you go round someone's house who's not an avid fighter, it's painful to see some of the cast missing.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Who the heck is that?
Red Arremer
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That's Undyne from Undertale.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Ah, thank you.
Just great. I'm more likely to know everything about Undertale before I ever touch the game.
SenorArdilla
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I played the demo before the game was cool.
Geminosity
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Yeah, imagine if Nintendo had made some kind of portable object that could store game data, Sakurai could've used it for something really useful like that.
~looks at amiibos on shelf and sighs~
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Don't amiibos hold like 8KB of data? The Standard GCN memory card was 4 MB or something. Amiibos wouldn't help with that.
I would have suggested just linking a 3DS version of the game and checking what characters and moves have been unlocked. But alas, Sakurai.
Geminosity
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I doubt you need 8kb just to specify which specials and skin you've chosen on your custom. heck you could fit your control profile on there too
Using the 3DS as an unlock or similar is something a lot of people were hoping for before the Wii-U version finally came out but nope, of course not.
balladofwindfishes
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Gonzo The Great
Banned
I expect them to randomly dump a trailer onto their YouTube channel in November. It's safe to say that there won't be a Nintendo Direct anytime soon.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Hahaha and they still haven't announced slopes for Mario Maker
Sakurai does what Miyamodon't.
TheDinoman
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We could get another stage update with some balance changes and Mii Fighter costumes like the last two major patches, but I can't help but feel we won't be getting new characters until a little into next year.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yep, that's what I have been saying. We are more likely to get character(s) and/or updates in November!
It's possible that we could get characters next month then other characters in 2016.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Apologies for Double Post;
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...cked_with_friendly_rivalry_and_mutual_respect
It would be very interesting to see what kind of movesets they would come up with Sonic and Snake if they actually make in Melee. I would imagine that the movesets wouldn't be same which we were familiar with.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...cked_with_friendly_rivalry_and_mutual_respect
It would be very interesting to see what kind of movesets they would come up with Sonic and Snake if they actually make in Melee. I would imagine that the movesets wouldn't be same which we were familiar with.
balladofwindfishes
Member
I don't mind Sonic's Smash moveset.
Yea, maybe it feels sort of rushed if you really look at it closely, but going into a ball is what Sonic does. That and running are his main gimmicks.
His side special feels more like the 3D spin dash, while his down special is the 2D dash. He has his trademark homing attack. His Spring Jump is creative and they even worked his Sonic 3 mid jump spin attack as his neutral air.
The rest of his attacks would have been made up whether he was rushed or not.
If Sonic was in Melee, he'd probably play basically the same. Nothing he does in Brawl is out of the ordinary for a Melee character. Heck, Sonic could have probably worked as-is in 64. He's not complicated at all.
Yea, maybe it feels sort of rushed if you really look at it closely, but going into a ball is what Sonic does. That and running are his main gimmicks.
His side special feels more like the 3D spin dash, while his down special is the 2D dash. He has his trademark homing attack. His Spring Jump is creative and they even worked his Sonic 3 mid jump spin attack as his neutral air.
The rest of his attacks would have been made up whether he was rushed or not.
If Sonic was in Melee, he'd probably play basically the same. Nothing he does in Brawl is out of the ordinary for a Melee character. Heck, Sonic could have probably worked as-is in 64. He's not complicated at all.
balladofwindfishes
Member
If by some miracle Eggman got in, this needs to be his trailer song and added to the game ASAP, so modern Sonic can't be ignored too much lol
Eggman is one of those pie in the sky characters I'd absolutely adore in Smash, but know he has no chance.
There's piles of woodland animals they'd throw in before they'd add Eggman, one of my favorite villains of all time with my favorite voice acting of pretty much any video game character. Modern Eggman >>>>>>>> Classic Eggman, and that's pretty much the only Sonic character I will say that's true for.
Eggman is a boss and deserves so much more in Smash than random trophies. Imagine if Bowser was nothing but an afterthought trophy!
Eggman is one of those pie in the sky characters I'd absolutely adore in Smash, but know he has no chance.
There's piles of woodland animals they'd throw in before they'd add Eggman, one of my favorite villains of all time with my favorite voice acting of pretty much any video game character. Modern Eggman >>>>>>>> Classic Eggman, and that's pretty much the only Sonic character I will say that's true for.
Eggman is a boss and deserves so much more in Smash than random trophies. Imagine if Bowser was nothing but an afterthought trophy!
Dr. Buni
Member
Sonic's moveset is garbage and ignores a lot of cool stuff he can do in his games. I wish it was for the most part different from what it is now. I couldn't care less if some of his moves would come from post Sonic Adventure games, in fact, that would actually be a real good thing since the best 3D Sonic games came after the mediocre Adventure.
Green Mamba
Member
The only move of Sonic's I think is lame is his side special being basically the same thing as his down special.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Like?
Boosting is the only one I can think of, besides going deep into SA/2 Powerups, which aren't really well known or consistent in the series.
He rolls into a ball and runs fast. He also has a homing attack. These are his notable powers in his games, and the ones he also has in Smash.
It should probably be changed to some kind of boost power.
C.Olimar788
Member
Sonic's moveset is pretty boring. I don't mind him being a ball a lot - it's his main form of attack in pretty much every game after all - but I don't understand why they couldn't have filled out his normals with moves from Sonic Battle, for instance. He practically already has a moveset just pulling from there! His super cool breakdancing heavy attack would have been a much more interesting forward smash than a regular-ass punch.
And yeah two Spin Dashes is probably a bit much. I can't help but feel like his inclusion was rushed in several ways - his victory music is (still!) ported from Sonic 06, for instance.
And yeah two Spin Dashes is probably a bit much. I can't help but feel like his inclusion was rushed in several ways - his victory music is (still!) ported from Sonic 06, for instance.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Hmm now that I think about it, MK8 is sorta neglected too huh
In what way? They released the DLC packs. They didn't promise more. I suppose some are desperate for more Amiibo costumes.
Nocturnowl
Member
Pretty much where I stand, Sonic is a character who I feel should be in my regular rotation but his moveset keeps me faaaar away.
TheDinoman
Member
I agree with this. I kind of see what they were going with Sonic, him being a fast guy who turns into a ball just like in the 90s, but I dunno. It just kinda seems arbitrary to ignore Sonic Battle just because "it was released in the 2000s ahuh". I prefer Project M's portrayal of Sonic.
Also, yeah fighting Sonic in Smash 4 is like trying to pull teeth out. He's an almost completely unpunishable character in a game basically about punishing.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Aren't most of his normals from Sonic the Fighters anyway?
MrSaturn99
Member
Sonic's moveset is easily the most boring of the five third-party Smash characters. He's still fun to play with, but his non-existent face animations compel me not to play as him too much.
in before arrrrrghhhh brawl center mouth/long quills
Linkstrikesback
Member
That's an understatement.Back before the internet became truly all pervasive secret characters were sort of interesting because you likely didn't know who was coming unless you were dedicatedly rummaging about fan sites on the net. Now they don't really work unless you go out of your way to avoid talking to anyone who plays the game or reading any of the sites you probably regularly check, which isn't really practical for a lot of people
You basically couldn't be on gaf from smash being announced to release because every time a new character was announced there would be at least one thread with it right in the title on the front page for at least a day, probably a lot more.
This post reminds me, as much as I feel Sakurai nailed the hell out of Megaman in Smash 4 (seriously, the Smash 4 incarnation managed to finally give props to the best incarnation of the character that has ever existed - Hitoshi Ariga's), I'm to this day so sad that Megaman's upB wasn't some form of Rush Jet. The Megaman 8 intro, much like the Sonic CD intro, did a lot of things to my ideal perception of the character that persist to this day and getting lame Rush Coil over awesome dogbot hoverboard hurts, especially when all three third parties get a "spring into air" jump special. :lol
GiantBreadbug
Member
I like Sonic's moveset just fine. Feels true to form for me.
Dimitri LH
Member
He needed more moves from Sonic Battle Imo, it's one of the few things I strongly praise in Project M.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Yea, that and apparently some inspiration from Virtua Fighter. One or two from Battle as well according to Smash Wiki.
His moveset actually references more to his history and Sega in general than it lets on.
MrSaturn99
Member
It's funny because for whatever reason I always imagined the taller Mega Man we saw in MM8/MVC2 as being his visual representation in Smash.
The one we got though is just too perfect. Probably tied with Snake as my favorite third-party representation in Smash.
balladofwindfishes
Member
> Mega Man being one of the first and only NES games where the main character blinks
> Mega Man does not blink in Smash Bros
Since he blinked in his trailer, I wonder if it's actually a bug, like ROB's eyes. It's a really strange detail to remove from a character whose blinking is actually kind of an important part of his design, given the era he is from.
> Mega Man does not blink in Smash Bros
Since he blinked in his trailer, I wonder if it's actually a bug, like ROB's eyes. It's a really strange detail to remove from a character whose blinking is actually kind of an important part of his design, given the era he is from.
I like Sonic's moveset, even if I have some niggles with it. I don't fully agree with there being two versions of the spin dash, and I do wish he had his Sonic Eagle move from Battle as his FAir since I imagine it'd be a great meteor (Project M did this at least so I guess there's that). Even so it's easy for me to forget about it once I play him since he's a lot of fun to me, blazing around getting some fast hits. ZeRo's analysis video was pretty spot-on about him imo.
I just feel bad playing him due to every one always hating having to deal with him lmao. I'm happy he's finally good in Smash 4 but man, bit of a bummer he's overall had some sour treatment throughout the Smash games. Then again I think most Sonic mains learn to not give a shit.
On the topic of Mega Man, windfishes raises an interesting point about character detail considering with Mega Man they even went so far as to have the animation detail of his elongated foot in the original games carrying into Smash. I don't think anyone else would have done that.
I just feel bad playing him due to every one always hating having to deal with him lmao. I'm happy he's finally good in Smash 4 but man, bit of a bummer he's overall had some sour treatment throughout the Smash games. Then again I think most Sonic mains learn to not give a shit.
On the topic of Mega Man, windfishes raises an interesting point about character detail considering with Mega Man they even went so far as to have the animation detail of his elongated foot in the original games carrying into Smash. I don't think anyone else would have done that.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I didn't even notice (or realize) that. I decided to check Mega Man for Smash Bros trailer and HE ONLY BLINKED ONCE in the trailer. How the heck did you managed to catch that?
I will test Smash 4 later and see if he could blink in the game.
balladofwindfishes
Member
I didn't notice it, I've just read it a few times elsewhere and checked and yea, he doesn't blink in game and it's kind of unsettling.
Dr. Buni
Member
I think it makes sense Mega Man doesn't blink, since his eyes are kinda like monitors and not really eyes, as show in the trailer... but in the same trailer he blinks, so w/e.
That is one more reason to play him, if anything
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