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[The Bankslammer]

having a rassleman or punchingman represent a rhythm game series in a fighting game sounds like the most uninspired choice one could go for. chorus kids are singers, and in both design and concept are better suited as rhythm heaven representatives, imo

but whatever, i've gone on about this enough in the past, i really don't care all that much about what rhythm heaven character gets in, i'd just like to see the series get a character. chorus kids are the go-to choice now (and i can't personally think of any other character i think works better), so there you go

 

[L Thammy]

I sort of think most people who keep bringing them up don't even want Chorus Kids or would have given them a first thought, much less a second, had the leak not occurred.

I still think they're not the best choice out there now that literally anything can happen. But a cool and unique moveset could be made with them, so I'm not opposed to having them. I just think other characters should come first. And it's kind of crazy how much people say they support them now, just because of that leak.

Well, most people aren't really looking at all the possible options and selecting the most appropriate. They're just pulling something out of recent memory. Rhythm Heaven's been around for a while now, it's a popular series, it's distinctive. It's a good candidate for a character. The Chorus Kids leak helps bring that to attention.

By the same token, Shovel Knight wouldn't be so popular on Reddit and Wonder Red wouldn't be so popular on GAF if it weren't for the fact that the games came out fairly recently. Hell, Splatoon isn't even out and you have people clambering for Inklings.

 

[Clefargle]

I hate to be pessimist but it could be public-relations bullshit to save their faces if Snake didn't come back.

Perhaps, I'd like to think that someone there sees the value of getting snake back into the mindshare.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I understand how it happened the first time. My understanding of this ballot thing is that nintendo would look at the top results and go out and liscence the "video and characters" if they were third party. In that case, would Konami be able to sign off on Snake's inclusion? Also, Konami retweeted this yesterday: https://twitter.com/DenisBrando/status/583405671246405632

So we know someone over there is aware of this ballot.

A few weeks ago, Konami's twitter favorited a tweet saying "Fuck Konami without Kojima, I'm no longer buying their games."

I don't think what their twitter account favorites is indicative of much besides boredom.

 

[Durden77]

But Roy is so fat and ugly and makes weird sounds

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Edit whoops wrong thread.

but while I'm here, wonder how many have voted for Goku xD or is Snake and Bayonetta seem to be the leading vote getters?

 

[Out_Of_Ammo]

But Roy is so fat and ugly and makes weird sounds

So are Wario and Dedede but they are the best characters in the game.

 

[Boney]

I don't even think they would be the primary choice for a Rhythm Heaven character. Karate Joe is the most recurring character in the series. I'm pretty sure he's also the very first you play as, if I remember correctly.

First in the GBA and last before the harder remixes in ds and wiiu

 

[Ryce]

Given how formulaic Smash Bros. move sets tend to be structured, this is what I would like the Chorus Kids to have as special moves:

Standard Special Move - Glee Club
Hold B as the first two kids sing, release the button in time to make the third kid sing, hold the button again as the conductor says “together now,” and then release the button to make all three kids sing in unison, triggering a giant explosive shockwave. Timing this incorrectly makes the lead Chorus Kid hang his head in shame, leaving them momentarily vulnerable.

Side Special Move - Karate Man
The front Chorus Kid punches a flowerpot out of the way, acting as a projectile. You can tap B two more times to punch a second flowerpot and then a rock.

Up Special Move - Night Walk
All three Chorus Kids leap high into the air as a giant heart appears above them, exploding into fireworks.

Down Special Move - Ringside
The first Chorus Kid pulls out a microphone and says, “Wubbadubbadubba, 'zat true?” to the middle Chorus Kid, you must press B to respond with a small cry, a voice responds “pose for the fans,” and then you need to press B again to strike a pose. This gives you super armor for a short time, indicated by a golden aura.

Their basic attacks would consist of singing various notes (a piercing shriek could “paralyze” the opponent like Zero Suit Samus’ down smash), claps, stomps, bites, and so on. A lot of these attacks would have rainbow flourishes like Peach's up air and Yoshi's up special. Their Final Smash would probably be called “Remix,” though I’m not sure what that would entail.

 

[dangeraaron10]

I have a few choice words for FE Roy. Something about us already having 3 sword wielding FE characters with similar movesets (two of which are nigh identical, with Roy's being almost identical, while also having his exploding fire blade plunge taken by Ike), someone who already has the name 'Roy' in the game, least liked Lord in the least liked FE game...along with several other things, but no one should be discouraged to vote one way or another, even in Roy's direction.

STAGES, however, I could go for the following:

Hazard Toggle, it already exists, and I think it's not put in out of pride alone

For Actual Stages

BOWSER'S FRICKIN' CASTLE GOD DAMNIT!
Fountain of Dreams (Melee)
Pokemon Stadium 1 (Melee)
Gangplank Galleon (Donkey Kong Country)
Casino Night (Sonic the Hedgehog 2)

Did I mention Bowser's Castle?

Also: Do you think they held back the amazingness that was Fountain of Dreams's theme, the biggest glaring omission from this game's 400+ strong soundtrack, for a Fountain of Dreams level DLC? That would give me solace. I was really disappointed that one of the best remixes in all of Smash was not in Smash 4.

 

[Clefargle]

A few weeks ago, Konami's twitter favorited a tweet saying "Fuck Konami without Kojima, I'm no longer buying their games."

I don't think what their twitter account favorites is indicative of much besides boredom.

Ooof, that's sad. I will keep hope alive anyways.

 

[woopWOOP]

having a rassleman or punchingman represent a rhythm game series in a fighting game sounds like the most uninspired choice one could go for. chorus kids are singers, and in both design and concept are better suited as rhythm heaven representatives, imo

Yeah, exactly. It sorta makes sense because they're fighters, but that's what makes them... well, boring to me. I'd rather have them use one of the goofier characters of the franchise, perhaps have his/her moveset based on the different recurring rhythm games, kinda like Mr.G&W's moveset. I think Marshal (actual RH mascot) or one of the franchise's recurring monkeys could work, no multiple characters hassle either.

 

[Troubled Bat]

or one of the franchise's recurring monkeys could work, no multiple characters hassle either.

If we're going to get another monkey, it better be Goku.

 

[PBalfredo]

From Smashboards:

Dammit Yellow! Are you even trying?

 

[TDLink]

If you think about it the Chorus Kids make sense. Rhythm Heaven, as stated before, is Nintendo's biggest franchise that lacks a playable Smash character, so it's kinda due for one. And since the Chorus Kids are known to have been worked on previously (complete with a Rhythm Heaven stage), might as well have Sakurai finish them up as DLC.

I think that's all arguable. There are plenty of Nintendo franchise not yet represented in the game. Rhythm Heaven has always been pretty niche, I wouldn't call it the biggest franchise that lacks a playable character at all. There are several others with as many or more entries, as well as several of equal or greater popularity.

Some people are just getting behind the idea because they know it was in the works and assume it will be an easier choice for Sakurai due to that rather a character completely from scratch.

And I can see that argument, but when a ballot opens that lets you pick literally anyone...I don't think think people have to worry about what's easier for Sakurai or not. People are allowed to pick who they actually want, not just who they expect to get in.

That said, because of those reasons Chorus Kids may very well still happen...but I think at this point people don't have to pretend that's really who they want over everyone else when everyone else is on the table.

Well, most people aren't really looking at all the possible options and selecting the most appropriate. They're just pulling something out of recent memory. Rhythm Heaven's been around for a while now, it's a popular series, it's distinctive. It's a good candidate for a character. The Chorus Kids leak helps bring that to attention.

By the same token, Shovel Knight wouldn't be so popular on Reddit and Wonder Red wouldn't be so popular on GAF if it weren't for the fact that the games came out fairly recently. Hell, Splatoon isn't even out and you have people clambering for Inklings.

I get all this too. People who actually want Chorus Kids because they like the characters, I get that. Especially since a new game announcement and the leak brings the character to the forefront of peoples' knowledge. I just feel like most people aren't in that boat.

 

[The Bankslammer]

why are you assuming it's not who people really want

i don't even see that much support for them in the ballot. this is a really odd thing to harp on

 

[Mockingbird]

Voted for:

Takamaru
Mike Jones
Lip
Wonderful Ones/Wonder Red
Inklings
Anna (Fire Emblem)
Lyn
King K Rool
Viridi
Medusa
Daisy
Saki Amamiya (Sin & Punishment)
Impa
Shantae
Ashley
Captain Syrup
Snake

Isn't it 1 vote per person?

 

[TDLink]

why are you assuming it's not who people really want

i don't even see that much support for them in the ballot. this is a really odd thing to harp on

Well there's no real way yet to know exactly what is winning the ballot.

Ever since the leak I have seen people coming out of the woodwork in support of them. And they have certainly been brought up in this topic quite a bit.

Some of those people definitely want them in because they like the characters and/or the franchise.

I just feel like most of the people instead just say they want them in because of the leak and that it is now an expectation they get in, rather than actually wanting them in over any other given character they may actually like more. Rhythm Heaven, and the Chorus Kids specifically, has never been especially popular or well known.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

I'm not pretending; Chorus Kids is my most wanted newcomer. And yes, RH is popular. I would say it's more popular than some series I've seen voted for on the poll.

And I think that just because all of a sudden the poll is around that doesn't mean anything about this host of other characters. Chorus Kids is still a good character to root for because all evidence points to Sakurai considering them.

Yeah, it's nice to have hopes and dreams about other newcomers, but if Chorus Kids are something Sakurai wanted to do and still can, I'd say they're coming before some of these requests that we have no indication were ever considered to be playable.

I'm saying mostly that I would temper some expectations when it comes to newcomers. The list I have in my mind of newcomers that Sakurai will actually consider adding isn't very big.

But I am still a little bit blind hype, I'll admit. That's Smash Bros. I guess.

 

[Ryce]

Rhythm Heaven, and the Chorus Kids specifically, has never been especially popular or well known.

The Chorus Kids, sure, but Rhythm Heaven? What? The series is less than a decade old and there have already been four installments and an arcade port. The DS version of Rhythm Heaven sold over 3 million copies.

 

[Azure J]

Isn't it 1 vote per person?

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

Live fast, die young and all that good stuff.

 

[Troubled Bat]

¯_(&#12484_/¯

Live fast, die young and all that good stuff.

Should have voted Takamaru multiple times.

 

[TDLink]

For the record, here's a list of franchises (including single game IP) that have not yet had a playable character added to Smash Bros. I would say a fair few are more popular than RH, and yes I realize that some don't really have a viable playable character:

• 1080 Snowboarding
• Advance Wars/Famicom Wars
• Art Academy
• Balloon Fight
• Battalion Wars
• Bayonetta**
• Brain Age/Big Brain Academy
• Captain Rainbow
• Chibi Robo
• Clu Clu Land
• Codename: STEAM*
• Cubivore
• Custom Robo
• Daigasso Band Brothers
• Devil's Third*
• Devil World
• Dillon's Rolling Western
• Disaster Day of Crisis
• Doshin The Giant
• Drill Dozer
• Electroplankton
• Endless Ocean
• Eternal Darkness
• Excite
• Fatal Frame/Project Zero**
• Flingsmash
• Fluidity
• Fossil Fighters
• Freakyforms
• For Who The Bell Tolls
• Geist
• Golden Sun
• Gumshoe
• Harmoknight
• Hotel Dusk
• Mach Rider
• Magical Starsign
• Meteos
• Mole Mania
• Mysterious Murasame Castle
• Nintendogs
• Odama
• Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents
• Pandora's Tower
• Panel de Pon
• Picross
• Pilotwings
• Pushmo
• Rhythm Heaven
• Rusty's Real Deal Baseball
• Sakura Samurai
• Sheriff
• Shin Onigashima
• Sin and Punishment
• Soma Bringer
• Splatoon*
• StarTropics
• Steel Diver
• Style Savvy
• The Last Story
• The Legendary Starfy
• The Wonderful 101
• Tomodachi Life
• Trace Memory
• Urban Champion
• Wave Race
• Wild Gunman
• Zangeki no Reginleiv

*Only a few months old or not yet out
**Partial Ownership only

Forgive me if I missed something

 

[Azure J]

Should have voted Takamaru multiple times.

I'm not about ballot stuffing though. That just seems wrong. :lol

 

[IntelliHeath]

Isn't it 1 vote per person?

Yep, but do you expect people to follow the rules?

I only made two votes so far on my phone and my computer, and both were for two different characters. I don't like to cast multiple-votes for same character.

Should have voted Takamaru multiple times.

I presume that you did same thing for Wonder Red, right? >.>

 

[Neoxon]

For the record, here's a list of franchises (including single game IP) that have not yet had a playable character added to Smash Bros. I would say a fair few are more popular than RH, and yes I realize that some don't really have a viable playable character:

• 1080 Snowboarding
• Advance Wars/Famicom Wars
• Art Academy
• Balloon Fight
• Battalion Wars
• Bayonetta**
• Brain Age/Big Brain Academy
• Captain Rainbow
• Chibi Robo
• Clu Clu Land
• Codename: STEAM*
• Cubivore
• Custom Robo
• Daigasso Band Brothers
• Devil's Third*
• Devil World
• Dillon's Rolling Western
• Disaster Day of Crisis
• Doshin The Giant
• Drill Dozer
• Electroplankton
• Endless Ocean
• Eternal Darkness
• Excite
• Fatal Frame/Project Zero**
• Flingsmash
• Fluidity
• Fossil Fighters
• Freakyforms
• For Who The Bell Tolls
• Geist
• Golden Sun
• Gumshoe
• Harmoknight
• Hotel Dusk
• Mach Rider
• Magical Starsign
• Meteos
• Mole Mania
• Mysterious Murasame Castle
• Nintendogs
• Odama
• Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents
• Pandora's Tower
• Panel de Pon
• Picross
• Pilotwings
• Pushmo
• Rusty's Real Deal Baseball
• Sakura Samurai
• Sheriff
• Shin Onigashima
• Sin and Punishment
• Soma Bringer
• Splatoon*
• StarTropics
• Steel Diver
• Style Savvy
• The Last Story
• The Legendary Starfy
• The Wonderful 101
• Tomodachi Life
• Trace Memory
• Urban Champion
• Wave Race
• Wild Gunman
• Zangeki no Reginleiv

*Only a few months old or not yet out
**Partial Ownership only

Forgive me if I missed something

Bayonetta as a franchise is Sega's, Nintendo has no ownership of it. The only thing they have is the publishing rights to Bayonetta 2, nothing more. Plus Rhythm Heaven out-ranks most of that list.

 

[Zalman]

For the record, here's a list of franchises (including single game IP) that have not yet had a playable character added to Smash Bros. I would say a fair few are more popular than RH, and yes I realize that some don't really have a viable playable character:

• 
  Out of those, I think Advance Wars and Golden Sun are the ones that need it the most. Splatoon too, but it's a little early for that.

 

[Durden77]

If Roy somehow made it back in, which I personally don't want to see because I think he's a bad Fire Emblem rep and a bad Smash rep, he would have to be different from his original incarnation. 3 Marths where 2 will become obsolete after 1 of them rises above just sounds yuuuuuck. And Marth isn't even that fun to play in this game.

I know he's got his fans but I just can't understand people wanting him back after we got Lucina especially. If they re-invented him though, I'd give him a look see.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

I think at the end of the day no franchises on that list got an enemy in Smash Run. And RH is at least as popular as most of those, and more popular than most.

RH is pretty significant. Plus, it brings along with it lots of opportunities for other great content (music, stages, etc).

 

[Zalman]

I think at the end of the day no franchises on that list got an enemy in Smash Run. And RH is at least as popular as most of those, and more popular than most.

RH is pretty significant. Plus, it brings along with it lots of opportunities for other great content (music, stages, etc).

I love Rhythm Heaven, but the characters don't really stand out to me. They're too simple, you know? I'd love to see them make it happen though. The franchise deserves a stage at the very least.

 

[Neoxon]

Out of those, I think Advance Wars and Golden Sun are the ones that need it the most. Splatoon too, but it's a little early for that.

Unfortunately both of those franchises are dead, so I'm not sure if Sakurai would pay them any mind in choosing a character from the poll. That's why it's imperative that Wonder Red gets in now before his franchise suffers the same fate.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Unfortunately both of those franchises are dead, so I'm not sure if Sakurai would pay them any mind in choosing a character from the poll. That's why it's imperative that Wonder Red gets in now before his franchise suffers the same fate.

I have a feeling that they are going to give Wonderful 101 a second chance because you can't really fault the game for releasing on console that only had somewhat small bases in the past.

Did I remember it right that Kamiya expressed his interest to make Wonderful 101 Sequel, right?

 

[Zalman]

Unfortunately both of those franchises are dead, so I'm not sure if Sakurai would pay them any mind in choosing a character from the poll. That's why it's imperative that Wonder Red gets in now before his franchise suffers the same fate.

I can't imagine TW101 not suffering the same fate. The game was great, but it bombed hard. It wasn't exactly praised by the critics either. I doubt Wonder Red will star in another game.

 

[TDLink]

Bayonetta as a franchise is Sega's, Nintendo has no ownership of it. The only thing they have is the publishing rights to Bayonetta 2, nothing more. Plus Rhythm Heaven out-ranks most of that list.

That's why I said her rights were partial only. Going forward into the future I would definitely say it's debatable what happens with the IP.

Anyways, I wouldn't say RH clearly outranks most of that list. While we're just on rhythm games I would say Ouendan/EBA is at least on an even level of popularity if not more popular. Additionally, it seems like Advance Wars, Golden Sun, Wave Race, Chibi Robo, and Excite are definitely more popular and yet to be represented with a playable character.

A lot of the other stuff on that list is about even in popularity or a bit lower, sure. But I think it is still worth pointing out what exactly has yet to get a playable character.

For the record, I'm not saying RH isn't a franchise that is worth getting a character in the game. But there are clearly other un-represented and equal or more popular options as well. And this is before we consider playable characters from franchises already represented.

 

[ash_ag]

For the record, here's a list of franchises (including single game IP) that have not yet had a playable character added to Smash Bros. I would say a fair few are more popular than RH, and yes I realize that some don't really have a viable playable character:

• Wild Gunman

*Only a few months old or not yet out
**Partial Ownership only

Forgive me if I missed something

The Wild Gunmen are more or less playable as part of Duck Hunt "Duo". Very nice list though. Reminds me how Jill from Drill Dozer didn't return as an Assist Trophy. If we got an Assist Trophy DLC pack, it would be great.

 

[The Bankslammer]

i'm not sure what metric of popularity is being used when the extremely dead, poor selling ouendan series is on the same level/greater level of popularity as the very much alive, decent selling (in some regions lol) rhythm heaven

i think we're on different pages here

 

[Neoxon]

That's why I said her rights were partial only. Going forward into the future I would definitely say it's debatable what happens with the IP.

Anyways, I wouldn't say RH clearly outranks most of that list. While we're just on rhythm games I would say Ouendan/EBA is at least on an even level of popularity if not more popular. Additionally, it seems like Advance Wars, Golden Sun, Wave Race, Chibi Robo, and Excite are definitely more popular and yet to be represented with a playable character.

A lot of the other stuff on that list is about even in popularity or a bit lower, sure. But I think it is still worth pointing out what exactly has yet to get a playable character.

For the record, I'm not saying RH isn't a franchise that is worth getting a character in the game. But there are clearly other un-represented and equal or more popular options as well. And this is before we consider playable characters from franchises already represented.

I meant more in relevancy (I.E. games that sell & still have games coming out) than fan popularity.

 

[TDLink]

I think at the end of the day no franchises on that list got an enemy in Smash Run. And RH is at least as popular as most of those, and more popular than most.

RH is pretty significant. Plus, it brings along with it lots of opportunities for other great content (music, stages, etc).

Again, I'm not trying to say RH is insignificant but this type of argument is exactly what I'm talking about. Just because it has an enemy in Smash Run (because we know the franchise had a character in development) it means that is the obvious choice. I don't disagree and even think it might still happen, but I don't think it means people have to clamor behind the character.

I love Rhythm Heaven, but the characters don't really stand out to me. They're too simple, you know? I'd love to see them make it happen though. The franchise deserves a stage at the very least.

This is sort of how I feel. Ultimately though I do think any character can be made into a good fighter.

Unfortunately both of those franchises are dead, so I'm not sure if Sakurai would pay them any mind in choosing a character from the poll. That's why it's imperative that Wonder Red gets in now before his franchise suffers the same fate.

This really doesn't matter. Sakurai has included characters from "dead franchises" plenty of times already. And a franchise is only dead until it isn't.

Plus IS said last year at E3 that they are wanting to do another AW and that the franchise isn't dead.

I am a big supporter of Wonder Red too. That game is a cult hit and very popular in certain circles, but I completely understand that it's tough to ignore who badly it sold. I really wish its fate was different. And I still hope the character gets into Smash.

 

[FSLink]

I love Rhythm Heaven, but the characters don't really stand out to me. They're too simple, you know? I'd love to see them make it happen though. The franchise deserves a stage at the very least.

The characters have a very colorful artstyle and with how weird the rhythm games can be, you can make for an insane inspired moveset. Wrestling poses, golf clubs, cheering, fireworks, and tons more they could incorporate, and they could easily add a Rhythm element to the special moves. I dunno I think with how zany the characters are despite how simple they look, they are one of the best choices for a new character.


Also Roy is a complete waste of time outside of the Melee nostalgia where he doesn't even have a moveset based off his moves in-game (a wasted opportunity for the Project M guys for sure). There's so many interesting lords you can choose from in the series, and as much as I like FE6, Roy offers little as a Fire Emblem rep. I wouldn't be opposed to him being in with even the other cut veterans like even Pichu or Young Link, but I'm not personally going to push for them since I'd rather see the veterans with interesting playstyles return (Snake, Ice Climbers, etc.)

Again, I'm not trying to say RH is insignificant but this type of argument is exactly what I'm talking about. Just because it has an enemy in Smash Run (because we know the franchise had a character in development) it means that is the obvious choice. I don't disagree and even think it might still happen, but I don't think it means people have to clamor behind the character.

Doesn't really matter. I knew I wanted a Rhythm Heaven rep but wasn't sure what or who, and the idea of the Chorus Kids definitely sounds interesting and could offer a more inspired moveset than Karate Man or something. Yeah the leak helped put the idea into people's heads, and I think it's natural people wanting to push for a character that has evidence that they were cut to finally make it into the game as DLC somehow. (Gematsu leak being pretty clearly a leak of an early character list, RH enemy in Smash Run, RH logo with character logos, etc.)

 

[Neoxon]

I can't imagine TW101 not suffering the same fate. The game was great, but it bombed hard. It wasn't exactly praised by the critics either. I doubt Wonder Red will star in another game.

I think Nintendo's aware that W101 is a cult favorite, but if they would give the franchise another chance on the NX (assuming it's a console) remains to be seen. I'd love a sequel, but I'm not sure if Nintendo would give Kamiya another stab the franchise.

I have a feeling that they are going to give Wonderful 101 a second chance because you can't really fault the game for releasing on console that only had somewhat small bases in the past.

Did I remember it right that Kamiya expressed his interest to make Wonderful 101 Sequel, right?

Kamiya wants to, the question is if Nintendo will let him.

Spoiler

I sincerely hope they let him go for it.

 

[Ryce]

Anyways, I wouldn't say RH clearly outranks most of that list. While we're just on rhythm games I would say Ouendan/EBA is at least on an even level of popularity if not more popular. Additionally, it seems like Advance Wars, Golden Sun, Wave Race, Chibi Robo, and Excite are definitely more popular and yet to be represented with a playable character.

What planet do you live on where Chibi-Robo! and Elite Beat Agents are more popular than Rhythm Heaven? Those games barely sold anything. There hasn't been a new Wave Race in 13 years, and none of them outsold Rhythm Heaven DS. The same goes for Golden Sun (minus the 13 years part).

 

[TDLink]

i'm not sure what metric of popularity is being used when the extremely dead, poor selling ouendan series is on the same level/greater level of popularity as the very much alive, decent selling (in some regions lol) rhythm heaven

i think we're on different pages here

RH has sold better and is newer, but I tend to see people reflecting more fondly on Oendan/EBA. But maybe you're right and I'm off-base on that particular comparison. Just as an example though, Nintendogs clearly is a better selling franchise than RH but I don't think that a Nintendog should be a playable character.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

I love Rhythm Heaven, but the characters don't really stand out to me. They're too simple, you know? I'd love to see them make it happen though. The franchise deserves a stage at the very least.

I think their simplicity is appealing, but maybe that's just me. It's kind of the same reason I like G&W, Villager, WFT, and the like. A lot of the quirkier characters are simple visually, but as long as they're fun and true to the source material I think it'd be great. Plus the whole rhythm trio would be pretty interesting.

 

[SenorArdilla]

There's no such thing as wasted slots.

 

[TDLink]

What planet do you live on where Chibi-Robo! and Elite Beat Agents are more popular than Rhythm Heaven? Those games barely sold anything. There hasn't been a new Wave Race in 13 years, and none of them outsold Rhythm Heaven DS. The same goes for Golden Sun (minus the 13 years part).

When I have been talking about popularity I haven't really been talking about sales numbers. I don't think that's a real indication of a character or franchise's long lasting popularity. RH is a very casual gamer appealing series, and it was on the DS (one of the best selling Nintendo systems). Of course it sold a ton because of those factors.

But people still want new Wave Races and Golden Suns. And people still want to see Isaac in Smash and Chibi Robo in Smash. These characters/franchises are continually brought up for a reason. They are still popular despite not having entries in a while.

 

[FSLink]

RH has sold better and is newer, but I tend to see people reflecting more fondly on Oendan/EBA. But maybe you're right and I'm off-base on that particular comparison. Just as an example though, Nintendogs clearly is a better selling franchise than RH but I don't think that a Nintendog should be a playable character.

I think most people would be okay with a RH stage, assist trophy, etc which is what Nintendogs got, but with the leak, the idea for a RH character has spread and people want to see it come to fruition, especially if they are RH fans.

 

[Black-Wind]

i'm not sure what metric of popularity is being used when the extremely dead, poor selling ouendan series is on the same level/greater level of popularity as the very much alive, decent selling (in some regions lol) rhythm heaven

i think we're on different pages here

Popular = "Me and my small group of peers like this more than that"

Just like that bs list everyone keeps tossing around.

I think RH wouldn't really be on nearly the level people put it on if not for the leak rumor. And even if it did get a character I would much prefer rhythm girl to CK personally.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I think Nintendo's aware that W101 is a cult favorite, but if they would give the franchise another chance on the NX (assuming it's a console) remains to be seen. I'd love a sequel, but I'm not sure if Nintendo would give Kamiya another stab the franchise.[/SPOILER]

I hope so. I still need to finish Wonderful 101 tho.

There's no such thing as wasted slots.

Agreed unless it's Waluigi. :V

 

[TDLink]

Popular = "Me and my small group of peers like this more than that"

Just like that bs list everyone keeps tossing around.

I think RH wouldn't really be on nearly the level people put it on if not for the leak rumor. And even if it did get a character I would much prefer rhythm girl to CK personally.

This is really all I'm trying to say with all of these posts.

 

[Neko Godot]

How well did the Style Savvy games sell? Apparently there's a following behind getting a character from that series in Smash Bros, and I find that idea ridiculously amusing.