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Smash Wii U & 3DS Downloadable Characters Discussion and Information on Smash Ballot
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Yup, & Takahata101 (Nappa/Ghost Nappa, Bardock, Alucard, Cell, etc.) is spear-heading the push.
Mewtwo's boring. We already know what Mewtwo is. The new Smash Bros DLC could be anything! It could even be Mewtwo!
Gonzo The Great
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Somebody made a good Jennifer Hudson analogy the other day. K. Rool and Wonder Red both need your support.
balladofwindfishes
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It really is hard to believe there's one more week until Mewtwo, probably the single largest cut Smash has had. A cut that made no sense at all and still doesn't, finally returns to Smash in all his glory.
It'll feel weird honestly. Even weirder than having Doc back after so long felt.
hey, thx a lot for the offer. maybe I'll do that!
RomanceDawn
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complete the trio sakurai plz
Seriously! Dixie's been my favorite Kong since DKC2. I wonder at what point they stopped designing her with the knee pads? And after all these years I've only just noticed she originally had nail polish. Glad they got rid of that.
If I could find out why Rare went with Tiny way back during the 64 days I think I'd be able to sleep easier for the rest of my life. Pisses me off to this day.
Joe Prodigy
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I really can't understand the argument if Ridley being too big. Look at Browser in most Mario games. Mario Party, Mario Galaxy, Sunshine, 3D world, 64. He's huge! Like ten times thr size of Mario. They shrunk him, do why not Ridley?
The only problem now is that Ridley is part of a stage now and he's huge. Now it'd be weird to have him. Before that he'd be perfect.
Yeah. Even if you think they are popular you should still vote for them. I kind of had a similar logic on why I didn't vote for Inkling (I think they are at least secured for the next smash game) but realized it ultimately just should be to vote for whoever one wants.
I do think either Dixie or K.Rool are probably the safest bet for DLC. If you also think that, it shouldn't stop you from voting them, it should encourage you to.
That said, vote for Wonder Red people
Would they be able to resize an avatar.
I asked in the smash threads to resize an image I wanted to use as avatar since I have no editing tools other than paint, but everyone ignored the request :C
RomanceDawn
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Does anyone out there still believe or ever once thought Lucario was a clone of Mewtwo? After his DLC trailer I can't imagine anyone would think so after those clear cut close ups.
you can resize in paint, can't you?
Quick is a wizard at graphic design, so maybe. Just PM him, but don't harass him, the last thing he needs is his inbox being blown up to kingdom-come.
balladofwindfishes
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Bowser can be shrunk without looking silly because he's thick, without a lot of small details and has always been shown with way different sizes. Ridley is too thing and lanky to scale him down without him looking really bad.
And before anyone posts that Project M video, that Ridley looks awful and actually proves why he can't be in Smash like that. He looks cramped and like he's perpetually crouching, and his range is ridiculous for a character his size.
dangeraaron10
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No one should not vote for a character they think is "too popular" if they want that character to win. Every vote counts people! K Rool and Wonder Red need all the help they can get! This poll lasts until October, and there's several games that can come out between now and then. Fire Emblem: if, for example. Splatoon being another? Does it release in that time frame?
VOTE!
VOTE!
If I'm not mistaken, one of the reasons Tiny was made was because Dixie's ponytail would have been hard to animate back then. I think the DK64 team also just wanted to use new characters. Dunno why.
Glad to see Playtonic posted about K. Rool. It seems like we're likely to get some kind of new DK character, whether that's K. Rool or Dixie. They still need all the votes they can get though.
I always figured that it wasn't a matter of him being "big", but a matter of his proportions. Ridley's tail has always been the length of his body, and he uses it like a spear. His body also tends to be folded in from what I've seen, so you'd either get that cramped look or disjoint hitboxes.
Compare to Charizard, who also has a similar body type, but is much stouter and stands in a much more open pose.
I wouldn't mind the opposite, adding Brittany and Charlie as Olimar alts.
What do you mean by original colors? I don't think I'm getting what you mean.
Karsticles
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Woot woot!
If you care about playing the game more than speculating (i.e. not most people in this thread), it's very exciting.
Spring-Loaded
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Wario had six biker colors and six overalls colors in Brawl, but he only has four of each in this game. He lost four of his alternate colors.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
There are some people that are still believe in Mewtwo/Lucario clones. I can't wait for Wolf's announcement (if it's happening) then people are going to bitch about how we got three clone characters instead of newcomers.
I lost my favorite color alt of Wario Biker but I found new one pretty quickly tho.
OricWindstar
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If only this had been done with Brawl when the Geno hype was at full intensity. Haha, the Geno fanbase was annoying as shit, but I still want him in dammit!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I wonder how many votes ballot would have if Geno Force from Brawl went at it with full force?
The whole Ridley size argument reminds me of the arguments people had about the Koopalings as Bowser Jr. alts when the rumors first started. Before they were shown off people said it wouldn't make sense for the Koopalings to all be the same size. Now that the game is out nobody seems to care anymore.
balladofwindfishes
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Including his one costume based on his Game Boy sprite, which was my favorite because it made Wario look like a sailor/Donald Duck. :/
Gotta remove all those Wario Land references!
I expect his three finger Wario Land "W" taunt to disappear in Smash 5.
Lucario felt like Mewtwo's replacement in the same way your cousin could replace you. You may be similar, but it's pretty obvious you're not the same person.
To be fair to the vote, I only put one in for Ice Climbers because I feel like cut characters are all that's truly missing from this Smash game. Add back IC, Wolf, Roy and Pichu and it'd be a great cast. Snake would be nice to have back, but I always took him to be a one-time deal.
Ridley and Dixie I feel are the only "missing" characters these days, and I really only feel strongly about Dixie. Always felt Ridley would lose some of his Ridley-ness when making him smaller and not having him flying.
OricWindstar
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I mean, he's apparently getting a fair amount this time, but yeah, would've been crazy during the Brawl era. Still, I'm not holding my breathe. Wonder Red and Isaac are the two I can see happening that would get me really excited. K. Rool or Dixie seems like a given.
Yes, but I'd lose the aspect ratio and quality of the image in paint.
I guess I will try.
Bowser is inconsistent from game to game, add to that he even magically changes size within a same game, even if theoritically his size is established...
Ah, I thought you meant like his overalls.
Starphoenix
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Send me a PM.
I doubt any of the characters that appear popular on Gaf will even be that popular in the bigger picture anyway. Most people will be voting for Goku and Shadow the Hedgehog. Or Artix.
Lol I one you keed, but what an exciting time! Smash Bros DLC! Woo!
Yeah I feel you. I mean it was cool to see Doc in the ESRB leaks but at the same time it was strange to see him, a clone, come back before Mewtwo the original moveset character. Glad they're fixing him too, no more reflected projectiles going through your opponent lol.
This is amazing. I had about given up hope for a The Wonderful 101 character and transferred that hype over to Inkling, but this brings me right back. I feel like it won't happen, but it would be SO good if it did!!
I voted for Sami as my first vote!
KLatin Scelus
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Ridley's always hunched over and crouching isn't he? Even when he's in the air.
And it's still in development, so I'd imagine his range and animations will get better as time goes on.
This wait just feels like it takes forever...
Since people liked the Wonder Red Moveset idea, here's one I made for my vote, Torterra!
I approve of this. A lot of the grass type starters like Torterra and Serperior have potential to have really unique & awesome movesets like this.
You just have to have a creative mind.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm mildly curious to see how Sakurai would do Golden Sun's Isaac. Since there are many things that could going on for Isaac, like Sword, Djinn and Psynergy. It seem overwhelmed when you have many things that you need to fit in Isaac to represent Golden Sun itself.
ErrorMacro
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Not a clone of Mewtwo, but I always thought (and keep thinking) that Lucario was based on him. Not because of his moves, but rather because of Lucario's behaviour in Brawl, which was similar to Mewtwo. For example, the way he is floaty and move slowly, and how his aura attacks are similar to pyschic attacks.
Funny thing is, all of my friends who did not know Lucario's type, thought he was Psychic because of Brawl.
Got a new Wonderful avatar for the Smash hype thans to starphoenix. GO RED
I think Isaac could work similar to Shulk in that different Djinn would be like different stances, except instead of properties/stats they change Isaac's special moves. Like Down B lets you cycle/combine djinn and you get a variety of special attacks depending on your current set.
It would probably have to lock Isaac to a set for a period of time once selected, or this could be done in the way of Custom moves similar to how Palutena and the Miis have completely different special moves in customs as opposed to variations.
I'm moldy curious to see how Sakurai would do Golden Sun's Isaac. Since there are many things that could going on for Isaac, like Sword, Djinn and Psynergy. It seem overwhelmed when you have many things that you need to fit in Isaac to represent Golden Sun itself.
I think Isaac could work similar to Shulk in that different Djinn would be like different stances, except instead of properties/stats they change Isaac's special moves. Like Down B lets you cycle/combine djinn and you get a variety of special attacks depending on your current set.
It would probably have to lock Isaac to a set for a period of time once selected, or this could be done in the way of Custom moves similar to how Palutena and the Miis have completely different special moves in customs as opposed to variations.
balladofwindfishes
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Lucario and Mewtwo just happen to coincidentally both be Pokemon and both have a similar signature move.
Shadow Ball and Aura Sphere are iconic moves of the two characters, so it's hard to really know if it's anything more than coincidence. Especially since both moves function very differently and other than that the characters don't particularly share any other similarities other than very roughly similar air physics, but Mewtwo is closer to Jigglypuff and Wario than he is Lucario in that regard. And their forward Smash kind of, but Mewtwo's is based on his Stadium special attack animation so that's almost certainly just coincidence as well.
Shadow Ball and Aura Sphere are iconic moves of the two characters, so it's hard to really know if it's anything more than coincidence. Especially since both moves function very differently and other than that the characters don't particularly share any other similarities other than very roughly similar air physics, but Mewtwo is closer to Jigglypuff and Wario than he is Lucario in that regard. And their forward Smash kind of, but Mewtwo's is based on his Stadium special attack animation so that's almost certainly just coincidence as well.
Labrynian Rebel
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I've thought this from the beginning because of how they're doing it. If all the DLC characters are getting amiibo too, then I suspect that 3rd party characters are going to be really hard to get compared to Nintendo characters.
Besides ones like Rayman, where the company wanted the character in and were told no. Makes me wonder if Microsoft sent someone over to have a meeting with Nintendo over putting BK in.
Labrynian Rebel
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Probably because DK64 started development right after DKC1, that's the only explanation I got *shrug*
Like I said before:
Sakurai probably has a certain number of characters in mind. Characters he's already deemed OK. And he probably has a rough sketch in his head (or on a napkin) about how each character might work. Not down to the last detail like he did with Greninja, but he probably has some ideas.
The poll will help him decide which of those characters he will make. Let's say he has 10 characters in mind, and plans to make three. The poll might push him more toward certain characters than others.
At the end of the day, though, if Sakurai feels like characters with fewer votes would make for more interesting fighters, he'll probably make those characters instead.
And then when they unveil them in some future Direct, they'll just pick out ballots that support the decision, even if in reality there were fewer of those ballots.
Which is fine. It's still neat to know Nintendo will have data showing what we want. And it keeps us talking.
Sakurai probably has a certain number of characters in mind. Characters he's already deemed OK. And he probably has a rough sketch in his head (or on a napkin) about how each character might work. Not down to the last detail like he did with Greninja, but he probably has some ideas.
The poll will help him decide which of those characters he will make. Let's say he has 10 characters in mind, and plans to make three. The poll might push him more toward certain characters than others.
At the end of the day, though, if Sakurai feels like characters with fewer votes would make for more interesting fighters, he'll probably make those characters instead.
And then when they unveil them in some future Direct, they'll just pick out ballots that support the decision, even if in reality there were fewer of those ballots.
Which is fine. It's still neat to know Nintendo will have data showing what we want. And it keeps us talking.
Labrynian Rebel
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These guys should get an assist trophy to celebrate not being vaporware.
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