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[RedNalgene]

I believe Gemma will be the final character shown when the screen fades to black. She will get Jax, Nero, Abel, and the baby killed and the show will end with her realizing that she caused it all and have to live with it.

Sigh, it's certainly seeming like it'll go that way. Gemma has become the focal point of this season - I'd venture a guess and say she's had more screen time than anyone else, which is completely ridiculous given the show is about a biker gang. She's become an annoying character because her actions don't have normal consequences. Her character arc simply isn't believable, which makes her increased screen time that much worse.

Also, the whole setup where Gemma thought she was getting offed was absurd. Happy and Rat both acted like tough guys who had a "job to do" and force Gemma around because they were scared of her? Completely and utterly ridiculous. Their attitudes towards her in no way reflected why they wanted her at the cabin. Neither of them would have reacted that way towards her if they really needed help with something. They're going to act like tough guys and force the MC President's mother around like that? It's poor writing and poor directing. I won't blame the actors because they were obviously told what their motivation was and how they should act, but in the end it was so, so, so stupid.

I'm going to watch the rest of the season, but I'm disappointed at how disjointed and unbelievable this show has become.

 

[choodi]

Contrived is the word that best describes the plot lines, character actions and action this season.

 

[LumpOfCole]

Sigh, it's certainly seeming like it'll go that way. Gemma has become the focal point of this season - I'd venture a guess and say she's had more screen time than anyone else, which is completely ridiculous given the show is about a biker gang. She's become an annoying character because her actions don't have normal consequences. Her character arc simply isn't believable, which makes her increased screen time that much worse.

Also, the whole setup where Gemma thought she was getting offed was absurd. Happy and Rat both acted like tough guys who had a "job to do" and force Gemma around because they were scared of her? Completely and utterly ridiculous. Their attitudes towards her in no way reflected why they wanted her at the cabin. Neither of them would have reacted that way towards her if they really needed help with something. They're going to act like tough guys and force the MC President's mother around like that? It's poor writing and poor directing. I won't blame the actors because they were obviously told what their motivation was and how they should act, but in the end it was so, so, so stupid.

I'm going to watch the rest of the season, but I'm disappointed at how disjointed and unbelievable this show has become.

"You two, go tell my mom to come to the cabin"

Why do you need two of your guys to tell your mom a simple message? Just fucking call her on her cellphone or leave a text. This fucking episode!

 

[Kano on the Phone]

"You two, go tell my mom to come to the cabin"

Why do you need two of your guys to tell your mom a simple message? Just fucking call her on her cellphone or leave a text. This fucking episode!

Same with sending Bobby after them to check on things. I've seen them use phones before. Contrived as fuck.

I can't even suspend disbelief anymore. Sutter confuses always avoiding someone finding out about Gemma at the expense of the other characters staying believably intelligent with tension but it's just the opposite. It's one fucking dumb turn of luck after the next. Abel is going to tell his dad and get hit by the asteroid they just found out was heading toward Charming.

 

[Saty]

Am i the only one here that thought S6 was the best the show has ever been since i can remember? It was good\great up until Gemma going bananas and no one bothers to keep an eye on her even though everyone knows she'll be looking to lash out against Tara (and lets not forget Unser basically dooming Tara's fate by repeating to Gemma unconfirmed and wrong info). Those last 15minutes of last season brought the shitfest this season is.

 

[Deified Data]

Contrived is the word that best describes the plot lines, character actions and action this season.

Episode after episode it all comes down to this. Contrived really is the perfect way to describe the past 2 seasons.

 

[demolitio]

Contrived is the word that best describes the plot lines, character actions and action this season.

Yup. This is such a step back from the earlier seasons that it's hard to watch with excitement but rather just wanting to see how it ends at this point. It's still better than Dexter's last season but that's not hard.

I was joking that it will end with Gemma being the only one left as well except I said she'd suffer the rest of her life living with the guilt of killing her entire family and all she can see is their faces...All the while Katey Sagal is singing "Mad World" in the background to top it all off.

 

[Lanark]

With how often they are telling us Nero wants out of the game, I guess it's an almost certainty now that he is going to die. A shame, because he is one of the few somewhat sympathetic characters left. Then again, if the alternative for him is to spent the rest of his live with Gemma, maybe it's better if he dies.

This could have been a fantastic 4 season show, shame they dragged the material and characters out far too much. Instead of turning it in an epic drama, it made it feel like a soap opera.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Episode after episode it all comes down to this. Contrived really is the perfect way to describe the past 2 seasons.

Now he's added in not showing things that should obviously be shown after ending the previous episode on a cliffhanger like Juice holding a gun to Gema's head and Juice being taken by Jax. Every show lately has been having a horrible final season except for Breaking Bad. That delivered. Everything else has been horrible that has ended the last couple of years.

 

[Deified Data]

Yup. This is such a step back from the earlier seasons that it's hard to watch with excitement but rather just wanting to see how it ends at this point. It's still better than Dexter's last season but that's not hard.

I was joking that it will end with Gemma being the only one left as well except I said she'd suffer the rest of her life living with the guilt of killing her entire family and all she can see is their faces...All the while Katey Sagal is singing "Mad World" in the background to top it all off.

Dammit don't give him ideas.

 

[choodi]

There is no worse crime in fiction than promising something and utterly failing to deliver. Red herrings are often good plot devices, but consistently delivering no resolution is unforgivable.

The writers on this show should be put in the same concentration camp with the Dexter writers and never, ever allowed to write another thing again.

I don't read fan fiction, but i think they could have got the worst 14 year old fan fiction writer to put a more coherent story together than this tripe we are being insulted with.

Even the worst young adult fiction is better than this crap.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

There is no worse crime in fiction than promising something and utterly failing to deliver. Red herrings are often good plot devices, but consistently delivering no resolution is unforgivable.

The writers on this show should be put in the same concentration camp with the Dexter writers and never, ever allowed to write another thing again.

I don't read fan fiction, but i think they could have got the worst 14 year old fan fiction writer to put a more coherent story together than this tripe we are being insulted with.

Even the worst young adult fiction is better than this crap.

I wish I could argue with you, but you know what? You're 100% right. This season has just been ridiculous and not in a good way either, I'm not the first to point this out, but its insane that there are gangs still willing to trust the sons. HOW?! They've fucked over practically anyone that's worked with them, and yet they're still forming alliances, how long until Jax betrays the one niners he's working with to bring down August Marks?

Contrived really is the best word to describe this season. I think back to the first episode of this season, and compare it with the first episode of the final season of the shield and man what a difference. What makes it even worse is that Sutter wrote the first episode the final season of the Shield, which was a good episode, and then you look at the first episode of SoA's final season and its just... wow!

Seriously how many times can we see Jax form another alliance with someone he is very likely to fuck over again. It wouldn't even be that bad if someone in the show pointed this out, but they don't, in fact, as far as we know the Sons are still beloved in Charming (why?) despite the mayhem they've caused. I don't know maybe I'm being too harsh, but I've been a fan of the show for a while and this whole final season has just been really boring.

 

[choodi]

The Sons are so beloved in charming that a police officer who was shot during a drug deal involving the sons and whose partner was killed is willing to keep quiet about the incident.

WTF?

As I said, 14 year old fan fiction writers wouldn't be so insulting to their audience.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

All these side characters wouldn't even exist if the Sons didn't cross their paths. Literally every character in charming doesn't exist unless it has something to do with samcro.

Of course they love them. Otherwise they would cease to be. It's actually very deep. Kudos to Sutter.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

All these side characters wouldn't even exist if the Sons didn't cross their paths. Literally every character in charming doesn't exist unless it has something to do with samcro.

Of course they love them. Otherwise they would cease to be. It's actually very deep. Kudos to Sutter.

Fuck I wasn't expecting that, thanks for the laugh haha. Ah to think back to when this show was at least entertaining. Hell season 2 was legitimately good, but something changed after that season. I'm not sure which was worse Dexter's final season or this one, at least Abel has provided some unintentional comedy relief.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Nothing will be worse than Dexter's final season.

 

[choodi]

Nothing will be worse than Dexter's final season.

I am going to guarantee you change your mind by the end of this season

 

[Karak]

Fuck I wasn't expecting that, thanks for the laugh haha. Ah to think back to when this show was at least entertaining. Hell season 2 was legitimately good, but something changed after that season. I'm not sure which was worse Dexter's final season or this one, at least Abel has provided some unintentional comedy relief.

As I said elsewhere, its like In the Mouth of Madness except its not a horror writer writing a novel that creates reality, its Sutter writing a horrible show that creates their reality.
The connections to In the Mouth of Madness are freaky at times starting with the first name of the novelist in the Mouth of Madness being Sutter and going deeper than that. I swear to shit this is going to end in some kind of snow globe St Elsewhere meets In the Mouth of Madness way.

 

[Palpable]

Gemma was going to kill him. He's going to jail for life for being a cop killer now. If he would have told Jax he would have a chance of being free. It's bullshit that he would go to prison and risk being killed instead of giving up Gemma.

He shot at their bikes. Juice didn't kill any of the cops.

 

[TDLink]

This season has been pretty bad and forced pretty much all of the characters out of whatever established characters they had before. That said, it is nowhere near as bad as Dexter season 8. A lot of the stuff happening here is boring and and stupid/hinging on the writers making the characters stupid, but Dexter S8 was beyond that level of stupid. In every way.

 

[chris121580]

Nero is the only person I truly care about surviving. Hope he makes it

 

[Zaph]

Nero is the only person I truly care about surviving. Hope he makes it

A while back I felt the same (Chibs too), but as is par-for-the-course with Sons, the only way to keep Nero around (so Gemma stays relevant) was to turn him into another massively naive character who still rolls with the Sons even after all the lying and killing. And yet we're supposed to believe he's an OG who's been smart enough to stay alive this long.

 

[Dysun]

This season has been pretty bad and forced pretty much all of the characters out of whatever established characters they had before. That said, it is nowhere near as bad as Dexter season 8. A lot of the stuff happening here is boring and and stupid/hinging on the writers making the characters stupid, but Dexter S8 was beyond that level of stupid. In every way.

Agree, Dexter season 8 is on another level. Never seen anything like that before

 

[Cornballer]

- Rolling Stone with an early listen of this Tuesday's cover song for the soundtrack

 

[dave is ok]

- Rolling Stone with an early listen of this Tuesday's cover song for the soundtrack

This fucking show

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

- Rolling Stone with an early listen of this Tuesday's cover song for the soundtrack

oh my god just no...for more than one reason.

 

[BoboBrazil]

He shot at their bikes. Juice didn't kill any of the cops.

He killed sheriff from last year in the finale. Isn't that why he is had the APB out on him?

 

[Cornballer]

In other SoA news, while this week's episode is weighing in at a meager 90 minutes, the November 4th episode will be a full two hours.

EDIT: Apparently this includes the after show, so the episode is probably only 90 minutes.

 

[Omega]

I'm sticking with my theory that he'll find out but Gemma will convince Nero he's gone mad or has been fed lies or some such BS, confrontation ensues, Gemma legs it with the kids while they duke it out.

Flashforward five years, scene opens on Gemma laying in a motel bed, Thomas now a sprightly little shit is watching cartoons and suddenly Abel comes into shot holding a hammer.

He stares at Gemma and begins to walk towards the the bed. Credits roll.

Post credit scene is Gemma shooting him. Gemma isn't dying, not even close to happening.

I haven't even watched this season, I knew it wasn't worth watching but I like dropping by for spoilers in the .01% chance Gemma does die.

Also I need to watch Dexter, I really can't imagine anything being worse than SoA so that has to be a masterpiece

 

[BoboBrazil]

In other SoA news, while this week's episode is weighing in at a meager 90 minutes, the November 4th episode will be a full two hours.

Do I smell 2 musical montages and a chase scene?

 

[studyguy]

They just added Season 6 on to Netflix or my girlfriend somehow missed it I guess.
Anyway, I'm now reminded as to why I didn't like some of the leads. Dudes keep making some genuinely dumb decisions time and time again. I don't really care enough about the show, but I don't believe it's Dexter bad yet.

 

[dead souls]

In other SoA news, while this week's episode is weighing in at a meager 90 minutes, the November 4th episode will be a full two hours.

I think it's going to have the after show again (like the season premiere), since the repeats that night are only 90 minutes.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Dexter season 8 is an entire different level of bad. Its made even worse by the fact that season 7 ended with so much promise going into 8. Writing, production values, and acting all went horrible in that final season. This is nowhere near as bad.

 

[Cornballer]

I think it's going to have the after show again (like the season premiere), since the repeats that night are only 90 minutes.

Ohhhhh, that makes sense. I was wondering when they were going to roll another after show since I think there are three(?) planned this season.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

In other SoA news, while this week's episode is weighing in at a meager 90 minutes, the November 4th episode will be a full two hours.

is that the finale? When is this over anyway?

 

[metalslimer]

This isn't as bad as Dexter season 8, but somehow that was more entertaining. The thing about this season is that it's just stupid and boring.

 

[Cornballer]

is that the finale? When is this over anyway?

This week is Ep 8 of 13.

 

[Vert boil]

He killed sheriff from last year in the finale. Isn't that why he is had the APB out on him?

Unless I'm forgetting something, only the MC were after Juice for telling Nero about the lass he killed.

In other SoA news, while this week's episode is weighing in at a meager 90 minutes, the November 4th episode will be a full two hours.

I think it's going to have the after show again (like the season premiere), since the repeats that night are only 90 minutes.

Ssh! Don't spoil the fun!!

 

[BoboBrazil]

Unless I'm forgetting something, only the MC were after Juice for telling Nero about the lass he killed.

Ssh! Don't spoil the fun!!

The police issued an APB for Juice in connection with the sheriff's death. That is why he couldn't freely travel anymore.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

This week is Ep 8 of 13.

how is that even possible lol. How is this going to be 6 more episodes.

 

[metalslimer]

how is that even possible lol. How is this going to be 6 more episodes.

What do you mean, like 2 things of note happen in each episode, so this could be another 17 episodes.

 

[Vert boil]

The police issued an APB for Juice in connection with the sheriff's death. That is why he couldn't freely travel anymore.

So they did. Shows how much attention I'm paying this season.

Spoiler

;(((

 

[Palpable]

He killed sheriff from last year in the finale. Isn't that why he is had the APB out on him?

Oh shit, totally forgot about that. Thought you were referring to juice shooting at the motorcycle cops.

It has escaped me as to how they connected Juice to Eli's death. Why would Juice be at Jax's house during Tara's murder and then kill Eli (thinking from Jax's point of view here)?

 

[dead souls]

No one has connected Juice to Eli's death, have they?

I thought the APB was because he was the only MC member they haven't yet questioned about Tara's death.

If anyone knew Juice killed Eli the whole "Lin ordered Tara's death" thing falls completely apart.

 

[Palpable]

No one has connected Juice to Eli's death, have they?

I thought the APB was because he was the only MC member they haven't yet questioned about Tara's death.

If anyone knew Juice killed Eli the whole "Lin ordered Tara's death" thing falls completely apart.

There it is. I knew he wasn't wanted for being a cop killer.

 

[BoboBrazil]

No one has connected Juice to Eli's death, have they?

I thought the APB was because he was the only MC member they haven't yet questioned about Tara's death.

If anyone knew Juice killed Eli the whole "Lin ordered Tara's death" thing falls completely apart.

That's pretty fucking dumb then. He was going to rat out the club to cross the border when he could have just went to the station, gave his story, and then traveled wherever he wanted?

 

[Zaph]

That's pretty fucking dumb then. He was going to rat out the club to cross the border when he could have just went to the station, gave his story, and then traveled wherever he wanted?

He wouldn't have left the police station alive because Jax went to high school with them and keeps Charming whole.

 

[choodi]

He wouldn't have left the police station alive because Jax went to high school with them and keeps Charming whole.

Fucking LOL!!!!!

Seriously, this shit alone makes this season worse than anything they pulled in Dexter final season.

 

[Cornballer]

New episode tonight:

The Separation of Crows

Spoiler

The club focuses on flushing out an internal rat with the search for a missing member at a standstill.

 

[Cornballer]

- Ron Perlman talking about his new biography with the Daily Beast including one question on SoA

Q: When you’re writing about Sons of Anarchy you talk about playing Clay Morrow taking a toll on you. Why do some actors seem to be really affected by the roles they play, and some don’t?

A: For the most part, roles don’t have a particularly profound effect on my average day. They’re just basically things that you put on and take off. I think the difference to the Sons of Anarchy character is that when you take on a role it’s the result of a network of decisions you’ve made about whether you want to spend time with this character, whether you want to explore this character, whether you want to go inside yourself and find if that person exists in you. What happened with Clay Morrow on Sons of Anarchy was that he started out with a set of variables, and those variables dramatically changed halfway through to the point where he was on some sort of collision course with this monstrousness that existed inside him. The monstrousness that existed inside him when I said yes to the role was minor, but by the time I finished playing him in the end, it was all he was. I just tried to infuse it with nobility, because he was after all a king. What I was being given to play was decidedly negative and ugly, and made for very uncomfortable moments. For the first time in my life I was playing a character I don’t like, I don’t admire. I’ve played serial killers, but there was something about their wiring, their psychology that I found important to explore, to unearth. There’s an admiration, there’s a conscious enthusiasm to play those characters. It just changed into something quite dark and unattractive with Clay, and was a unique moment in my artistic career. It was very difficult because at the end of the day I’m very particular about who or what I portray, even though it seems random, I have to admire the character I’m playing.