A majority of US shows especially when they become successful, can never leave on a high.
They always get run into the ground.
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Sons of Anarchy - The 7th and Final Season - Tuesdays on FX
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A majority of US shows especially when they become successful, can never leave on a high.
They always get run into the ground.
Dominican Power
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It was a fun and chaotic show. Pure pulp fiction.
metalslimer
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The most hilariously bad ending sequence ever.
Dreams-Visions
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Yea, pretty corny. I think the broad strokes were fine, but the details were ugly. Thus, I'll just not spend time meditating on the details and spend time on those broad strokes. He was done when he pulled the trigger on his mom. Some things in life you can't come back from. He deserved much worse than going out on his own terms, but setting his family and club up for the future in exchange for his own seems fair enough. He died in peace knowing that things would be alright for everyone he loved, every matter in good, trusted hands.
Bubbavelli
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Can anybody summarize or point me to a summary of tonight's episode?
I'd like to believe in an alternate ending where Jax evades the police. Then we can get a sitcom where he and Dexter are roommates, living the sweet life after abandoning fatherhood.
Jax kills everyone, 'escapes' Mr Mayhem, commits suicide. Brings peace to California.
Jax kills everyone, 'escapes' Mr Mayhem, commits suicide. Brings peace to California.
Arozay
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brianjones
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jax killed himself ?
that doesn't strike me as in character at all
that doesn't strike me as in character at all
Jaysus Chryst...
What a poorly executed ending. The fact that Sutter thought all those ham(let)-fisted metaphors were going to come off as anything other than sophomoric horseshit blows my mind. It was like having to read poetry written by a junior high school student.
Someone hit me with a semi.
What a poorly executed ending. The fact that Sutter thought all those ham(let)-fisted metaphors were going to come off as anything other than sophomoric horseshit blows my mind. It was like having to read poetry written by a junior high school student.
Someone hit me with a semi.
Okay, finished watching. It was an okay ending mixed with some really stupid bits.
- So that problem Jax had with his leg last episode? Yeah, apparently had nothing to do with anything.
- How many fucking rings does Jax have? Didn't he drop like twenty of them on his family's graves since season 1?
- Jax already killed an Irish King, Connor. Or did you forget? That's fine, though people seem to forget shit that happened twenty minutes ago, let alone shit from a whole season.
- Why did Jax say "I'm ready" when he was about to meet Mr. Mayhem, when apparently everyone knew the only one who was gonna get hurt was Happy? I mean, shouldn't Jax have asked him if he was ready?
- I knew Chibs couldn't bring himself to kill ol' JACKIE BUY.
- No Jax. Tig being VP was not a "great choice", and you know it, as evidenced by the fact that you tried to sell out Tig to people who wanted him dead at least twice already.
- Jax survives a Mayhem vote only to kill himself a few hours later?
- Probably the worst moment in the episode (and probably the series for me): "It's time". Fuck you Sutter. Fuck you in the ear, you goddamned hack.
- The ending sequence was lame as hell and had awful CG.
- I'm still sad about Jax's shoes. They were nice and and clean. So white
Well, it's been an infuriating, albeit occasionally fun little ride. So glad it's finally over. Like I said, while it had some dumb parts in it, at least it wasn't as bad as Dexter, so for that I'm glad. Thank god I don't have to waste my time watching any more of this utterly inane, cliche, nonsensical garbage anymore.
- So that problem Jax had with his leg last episode? Yeah, apparently had nothing to do with anything.
- How many fucking rings does Jax have? Didn't he drop like twenty of them on his family's graves since season 1?
- Jax already killed an Irish King, Connor. Or did you forget? That's fine, though people seem to forget shit that happened twenty minutes ago, let alone shit from a whole season.
- Why did Jax say "I'm ready" when he was about to meet Mr. Mayhem, when apparently everyone knew the only one who was gonna get hurt was Happy? I mean, shouldn't Jax have asked him if he was ready?
- I knew Chibs couldn't bring himself to kill ol' JACKIE BUY.
- No Jax. Tig being VP was not a "great choice", and you know it, as evidenced by the fact that you tried to sell out Tig to people who wanted him dead at least twice already.
- Jax survives a Mayhem vote only to kill himself a few hours later?
- Probably the worst moment in the episode (and probably the series for me): "It's time". Fuck you Sutter. Fuck you in the ear, you goddamned hack.
- The ending sequence was lame as hell and had awful CG.
- I'm still sad about Jax's shoes. They were nice and and clean. So white
Well, it's been an infuriating, albeit occasionally fun little ride. So glad it's finally over. Like I said, while it had some dumb parts in it, at least it wasn't as bad as Dexter, so for that I'm glad. Thank god I don't have to waste my time watching any more of this utterly inane, cliche, nonsensical garbage anymore.
Having said that, I'm sad we don't have another season to look forward to.
My interpretation of it was the members were tearful because they were condemning Jax to death. The point of the fake-out was simply that they didn't have to kill him themselves and be haunted by it but rather wait for the other charters (or as it turns out, cops) to catch up with him.
styl3s
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I like to think that both The Shield and SoA share the same universe and like the SOA finale takes place a few years after The Shield and Mackey quits his job because he couldn't take the judgement for what he did from his co-workers and couldn't handle being a desk jockey so he changed his name, quit his job and became a truck driver.
I threw a spoiler tag because i know some people here still haven't seen The Shield and what i say kind of spoils something on the final episode of that show.
Vert boil
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♫ Can you feel the love tonight ♫
♫ The peace the evening brings ♫
♫ The world for once in perfect harmony ♫
♫ With all its living things ♫
Anyhoo, even with all of the negativity, I really enjoyed the finale. The Irish car chase was perfect.
http://abload.de/gallery.php?key=swoqg3fU
Abel: Smiling
Connor: Rolling up and shooting
Jax: Taking shades off after seeing Connor, Standing up outside the court house, Shaking head and shooting, Taking hands of the handlebar, Jesus pose, Closing eyes before crash, Crashing (deal with it)
Nero: Hiding his tears
Tig: Laughing at Ratboy
Vic Mackey: Jesus!
One thing I'm still unclear about is the whole deal gun with Connor. I hate scenes like that because everyone talks fast and mumbles. So, in a nutshell, what I gather is that Connor is going to use his rogue IRA contacts to supply guns to Alvarez per the original deal. Is that correct?
Yes, thats correct and it will probably blow up in their face in a week. The club always has to do things the hard way, it would have been better to simply deliver Connor as agreed.
Yeah, why not just deliver Connor? Was Jax afraid that the King he killed (I forget his name) wouldn't actually hold is promise to at least try and work with Alvarez?
Echelon079
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His dad wanted to split with the actual IRA 20 years ago so this was his chance to do that. In a way that makes no sense because his dad didn't want the club running guns at all.
I didn't know if I was remembering incorrectly but Chiklis indeed exclaimed "Jesus!" as he careens towards Jaxus Christ. Too much. Too much.
Edit: I don't know, Sutter described his original thinking with the show as pretentious, but I honestly think he would have been better served if he had just stuck to doing Biker Hamlet. And while I agree with strafer that perhaps Tig should have died, if he had we would have never had the stuff with him and Venus, which I still maintain was the best part of this season.
Not that I'm making excuses for the joke of this finale, but I saw a lot of posts questioning the validity of the Mr. Mayhem fake-out.
After I finished laughing at the jesus bread, here's my opinion: The entire thing was to take heat off the club. The "them" in "we'll tell them you shot Happy and ran away" wasn't just for the other charters, but the cops too. Since Jax so publicly cleaned up all their loose ends, the fallout landed on "Jax did it" instead of "SoA did it." I think that was 10% of the reason he burned everything too, not just to keep Abel from following in his steps.
If Jax killed half the town then let Chibbs shoot him, every California cop would be busting in to take down the club. And Fat Ass in my Face 3. This way it more looks like Jax went rogue, with only Samcro and the DA lady knowing what it was really all about.
I dunno, it's in my head but it's hard to explain in words. I blame Sutter.
After I finished laughing at the jesus bread, here's my opinion: The entire thing was to take heat off the club. The "them" in "we'll tell them you shot Happy and ran away" wasn't just for the other charters, but the cops too. Since Jax so publicly cleaned up all their loose ends, the fallout landed on "Jax did it" instead of "SoA did it." I think that was 10% of the reason he burned everything too, not just to keep Abel from following in his steps.
If Jax killed half the town then let Chibbs shoot him, every California cop would be busting in to take down the club. And Fat Ass in my Face 3. This way it more looks like Jax went rogue, with only Samcro and the DA lady knowing what it was really all about.
I dunno, it's in my head but it's hard to explain in words. I blame Sutter.
Baldwin_the_First
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I must have missed something while watching all of the seasons, I have no clue who that homeless woman is supposed to be.
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Baldwin_the_First
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..What.
This episode was basically Jax settling scores and his affairs. The Irish King have always been dicks to SAMCRO (and tried to destroy them) but were seen as untouchable. Connor gave Jax a way to partially settle that score while still having guns.
Considering just how untouchable the Kings were portrayed as up until now, the whole thing was weird. If they're that hardcore, they'll have the Belfast rebels cleared up in no time, Connor found and SAMCRO brutally murdered before they've even had the chance to scrape Jax off the truck.
But this has always been the Jax and Gemma show, so I'm not surprised the club is left to die with Jax.
But seriously, in the last scenes with Jax saying goodbye to the club, how crazy was it that we barely knew most of them?
Yup.
Hence the ridiculously held shot of the bread and wine.
Funny, didn't notice her in the room when Tara got stabbed in the skull.
Baldwin_the_First
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But then supposedly on Anarchy Afterwards -both Sutter and Hunnan said the Homeless Woman was whoever you wanted her to be.
This is.. In my eyes this is just a poor excuse for bad writing.
Summer Haze
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That fake as fuck CGI...
That blatant Jesus Christ imagery...
Just...lol.
That blatant Jesus Christ imagery...
Just...lol.
Bubbavelli
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Cornballer
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FXNow has the episode up. You'll need to log in with your cable provider info.
Thanks. I already checked that site, but I don't know the user and password info to my parents' account. I suppose I could wait a few days until the episode gets added to my service provider's on-demand channel.
johnny_park
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Check your pm
BoboBrazil
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I still can't believe Sutter actually did that shot of Jax killing Marx outside the jail. Him getting away with that with no cops around is the most ridiculous thing I think I've ever seen this show. Why not have him drive away and then have Jax kill him around the corner atleast?
Digital Snake
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I figured the finale would honestly be worse..but I guess having no expectations made it easier.
Of course Jax's CGI death looked awful and so contrived that it was the guy that Gemma met an episode or two before.
Also, it was so lame that they all acted like they were going to kill Jax, then shoot Happy instead. I know it was done because the show has an audience, but it was still silly. Also when they shot Happy, I thought maybe there was some crazy thing that he was a rat thing as soon as the shot happened.
Also Jax under the blanket at the courthouse could not have looked anymore comical, also when he unloaded on two people, no cops, nothing. Its like the SOA world is the 'No Cops' cheat in a GTA game.
An OK finale. Not as much garbage as Dexter at least.
Edit: Also, okay with Chuckie living. In this show full of just absurd events, I'm glad he didn't get caught in the cross-fire for some dumb reason.
Of course Jax's CGI death looked awful and so contrived that it was the guy that Gemma met an episode or two before.
Also, it was so lame that they all acted like they were going to kill Jax, then shoot Happy instead. I know it was done because the show has an audience, but it was still silly. Also when they shot Happy, I thought maybe there was some crazy thing that he was a rat thing as soon as the shot happened.
Also Jax under the blanket at the courthouse could not have looked anymore comical, also when he unloaded on two people, no cops, nothing. Its like the SOA world is the 'No Cops' cheat in a GTA game.
An OK finale. Not as much garbage as Dexter at least.
Edit: Also, okay with Chuckie living. In this show full of just absurd events, I'm glad he didn't get caught in the cross-fire for some dumb reason.
Skinny Pete
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I was enjoying the finale for the most part until the scene at the courthouse. I mean c'mon Sutter. And the last segment was just ridiculous. It came off almost comical it was so poorly done.
Overall I did enjoy the show up until this past season. It really turned into a piece of trash. I do Like Charlie Hunnam though and I hope he gets to work with a better writer and director in the future.
Overall I did enjoy the show up until this past season. It really turned into a piece of trash. I do Like Charlie Hunnam though and I hope he gets to work with a better writer and director in the future.
What I found funny is that instead of Jax running the hell out of there, as most people would logically do, he does like this nonchalant power walk. It's like he knows he's untouchable and the cops can't do shit. Most easy going getaway I've ever seen.
WarrenMax007
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Overall i liked the ending. It was a nice idea but the execution was terrible. I'll ask you this, who CGIs bread? Huh? Who? Why? About that Jesus thingy - i didn't notice it until i read about it on GAF, I thought he just was riding without his hands, ok then.
That fakeout - why? It was just to fool viewers. Like if you're just gonna shoot Happy, why do you need to vote? Why do you need to say "i'm ready" and all that jazz?
Seasons one and two were amazing. Season three was eh, but ending saved it. Four was good. Five was okay-ish. Six was pure trash. Seven was even worse than pure trash.
And the idea tha Vic Mackey killed Jax comes off as very strange to me.
That fakeout - why? It was just to fool viewers. Like if you're just gonna shoot Happy, why do you need to vote? Why do you need to say "i'm ready" and all that jazz?
Seasons one and two were amazing. Season three was eh, but ending saved it. Four was good. Five was okay-ish. Six was pure trash. Seven was even worse than pure trash.
And the idea tha Vic Mackey killed Jax comes off as very strange to me.
Cornballer
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I'm sure it was for shock value, but I honestly think that Sutter either ran out of time, or didn't know how to handle Jax killing Marks, so he just wrote in a quick kill. Same for Barosky. I think it's ridiculous that both of these characters were major parts of the story only to be killed off in a few seconds.
I thought for a second that Chibs and Jax were going to kill all of them.
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