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[SniperHunter]

Edit: I was wrong so I am correcting the OP. PSX and PS2 images from real time tech demos running on hardware

PSX Tech demo - matched by Dino Crisis 2

running real time on PSX http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47248013&postcount=104

PS2 reveal tech demos

All were eventually matched by actual games running on PS2.

PS3

I am going to say in all of these cases, the final product didn't meet the target render at all.

Should we really be excited about the Orbis reveal? I know this doesn't speak for the entire company, but there are people within Sony (probably at the higher levels) who tend to get carried away.

 

[Ahmed360]

Motorstorm should be possible now (I mean on next-gen consoles)

 

[RoboPlato]

I don't think we'll see too much target render BS this time around. The games shown off will be coming this year. All of these are from a year and a half or more before launch. They also got so much shit for the 2005 stuff that I don't think they'll try to pull that again.

The MGS4 one also would have been possible, if the RSX didn't get way underclocked after it was made.

 

[sssstententen]

Should we really be excited about the Orbis reveal?.

Yes

 

[criesofthepast]

Final product Killzone 2 looked better than the CG trailer.

 

[Gaogaogao]

hopefully ps3 target renders are now more representative of ps4 (towards the end of its cycle).

 

[123rl]

Exactly. I have no interest in Sony's "target renders" because they have been wrong every time. In some cases they have just been full-blown lies. I'll get interested in a PS4 when I have a controller in my hands and I'm playing a game - and not a moment before then

 

[JJD]

You're wrong at least on the PS3 Killzone case. The released game was better than the target video in some instances, and worse on others. I'd say it was a good compromise.

 

[I-hate-u]

For ps3 all targets have been reached except for ff7 because Square

 

[Razlo]

Final product Killzone 2 looked better than the CG trailer.

Agreed, the renders were BS in all cases, but PS3 eventually lived up to the lies.

 

[Into]

I remember the T-Rex, you could even move the camera around him and i believe even open his mouth with a button press?

Yeah they always bring great target renders, hope they one up themselves again.

 

[Alienous]

Based on the specs of the supposed Orbis, I am hopeful that the graphics will mirror many of the pre-rendered images we have seen in the past.

Those PS3 images, for instance, should be entirely possible now. Beyond that I don't really want much more from my graphics.

 

[Maxrunner]

Final product Killzone 2 looked better than the CG trailer.

nope

 

[Evolution_1ne]

pre announcement damage control? hold your meltdown till E3

 

[Gaogaogao]

For ps3 all targets have been reached except for ff7 because Square

not even close

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

DID YOU KNOW SNAKE'S MUSTACHE HAS AS MANY POLYGONS AS A GENOME SOLDIER FROM MGS2!

 

[JimmyRustler]

Final product Killzone 2 looked better than the CG trailer.

lol, never.

 

[StealthGoblin]

After the backlash from the PS3 reveal, I suspect they'll show in-engine stuff now.

They make a big deal of it at the beginning of a lot of their trailers these days.

 

[ShroudOfFate]

MGS4 also pretty much nailed it's target render.

 

[mrklaw]

Way was the PSX T-Rex supposed to be? I remember having it on a demo disc so it certainly wasn't a lie, but I don't remember it being linked to a game?

 

[Skilletor]

I'd say FFX, X-2, and XII looked as good as the FF8 scene.

 

[Gaogaogao]

MGS4 also pretty much nailed it's target render.

wrong again

 

[IonicSnake]

Doesn't MGS3 actually look better than that FF8 render?

 

[QuikZilver]

I'm cool with Target renders as long as they don't lie and say is real time gameplay.

Example Killzone 2.

 

[Red Chocobo]

I am going to say in all of these cases, the final product didn't meet the target render at all.

I think Killzone 2 looks far better then the CGI target render.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I feel like the PS2 ones were met and surpassed, honestly.

I'd say FFX, X-2, and XII looked as good as the FF8 scene.

For sure--especially the higher detail models used in the real-time cutscenes.

 

[I-hate-u]

I think Apocalypse looks as good as that MS render.

 

[Erasus]

Wasnt MGS4 running on a devkit? Those had dual 6800s

 

[Y2Kev]

You need glasses if you don't think the PS2 absolutely obliterated those target renders.

Also some of the PS3 target renders. That FF7 demo is hideous now if you go watch it.

 

[CambriaRising]

wrong again

Prove it. Don't just drive-by post.

You need glasses if you don't think the PS2 absolutely obliterated those target renders.

Also some of the PS3 target renders. That FF7 demo is hideous now if you go watch it.

I agree. If you look at the facial models on in-engine cutscenes in FFX and FF-12, they look a lot better than those.

Also very convenient that the FF13 trailer wasn't posted, when the game turned out looking indistinguishable from the CGI.

 

[criesofthepast]

nope

lol, never.

Someone post the gifs. I'm on mobile. ~_~

 

[Gaogaogao]

I feel like the PS2 ones were met and surpassed, honestly.

surpassed by the ps3.

 

[QuikZilver]

Final product Killzone 2 looked better than the CG trailer.

Lol, you must of watched that trailer in 240p.

 

[bj00rn_]

Final product Killzone 2 looked better than the CG trailer.

Nope it doesn't. Not even close.

The actual gameplay looks absolutely nothing like the carefully choreographed orchestrated and pin-pointed trailer with custom sound, custom animation and perfect IQ.

Of course, that goes for any game where the pr department have gone all-in on the smoke and mirrors.

 

[legacyzero]

I think Killzone 2 looks far better then the CGI target render.

especially in motion.

 

[The Last One]

C'mon, PS2 achieved this.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

surpassed by the ps3.

The PS2, too.

 

[Derrick01]

Final product Killzone 2 looked better than the CG trailer.

Agreed. There were some things the CG one did a little better in the end but the overall product looked better. And 3 looked even better than 2.

 

[ShroudOfFate]

wrong again

What's so different? I remember seeing it at E3

Spoiler

I think

and when playing it, it doesn't look so different. Maybe my memory is just off. Do you have a link to the video?

 

[Toxa]

PS2

GT4 is much better
the Sh3 face are much better than Reiko Nagase demo
MGS3 is more impressive than FF8 demo

 

[El-Suave]

This will be an event at a date they picked themselves. They shouldn't be in panic mode as they probably were during the infamous E3 conference.

 

[dan2026]

MGS4 also pretty much nailed it's target render.

I don't believe MGS4 was even 720p.

Someone probably knows better than me.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Someone post the gifs. I'm on mobile. ~_~

There is no need to. I have the game on my PS3 and I've seen the render trailer. It ain't the same quality.

 

[sTeLioSco]

If its releasing this year the will show gameplay........

nintendo also showed tech demos. i hope sony shows along with games

 

[Y2Kev]

You have to watch some of the demo reels to get a real sense of what the "target" was. You can't say the PS2 didn't surpass this with a straight face.

 

[lowrider007]

Sony target render comparisons never go down well, I personally think outside of the animation KZ2 actually looked better than the target render, although art direction obviously played a big part in that.

 

[ShroudOfFate]

I don't believe MGS4 was even 720p.

Someone probably knows better than me.

MGS4 was native 1080p iirc. I could be wrong though.

 

[Gouty]

C'mon, PS2 achieved this.

The only problem is that its a PS1 game. Wait, was that a special render they did for PS2 hype?

 

[RyanardoDaVinci]

lol, never.

Technically? Of course not. Artistically? The actual game is much better than the render.

MGS4 also pretty much nailed it's target render.

lol, NO.

MGS4 looks like recycled dog shit compared to the TGS '05 build.

MGS4 was native 1080p iirc. I could be wrong though.

It wasn't even 720p.

 

[Gaogaogao]

Prove it. Don't just drive-by post.

the evolution of the trailers leading up the mgs4 show the compromises made. snake, his gun, and Metal Gear Mk. II, all look worse in game.