Silent Chief
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It's just normal that game publishers would rather be advertising on the best selling platform.
This is IMHO the worst thing in this industry, stupid exclusive content. It's just annoying and stupid. We should not support that. Glad, that Microsoft is not supporting this crap.
The marketing deals referenced in the OP are going to be MS's biggest challenge this holiday season. All the mindshare created from the best 3rd party games launching this year will be attributed to PS4. Not only that, there will be content for those games that is either exclusive or timed-exclusive for PS4. I don't see any way MS can combat it right now. This is probably shaping up to the biggest holiday this generation in terms of game launches and all the top games are locked into marketing deals with Sony. I can't think of any feasible way for MS to combat this. From a marketing perspective, MS dropped the ball huge. I expect Sony to crush it and I say that as a huge Xbox fan who will be buying Scorpio and playing 3rd party games on it.
Microsoft will have a tough time but they still got a few heavy hitters to market too. Shadow of war,madden,FIFA and than there own first party titles.
Nintendo will have their juggernaut Mario and maybe xenoblade 2
Doesnt matter if Trials is niche. Its still affecting PS players who play not being able to play the map on Trials. Same for Nightfall strikes and weapons and armor Xur sold. I am very active Destiny 1 player and the community has always been vocal about it. It sure has a positive thing about it for PS players but the PS4 community was also affected in a negative way.. So saying "non bad for PS4 players" wasnt the case for Destiny. And they believe are doing the same thing again with Destiny 2.
It's phils word vs people on forums who know nothing so just depends who you side with I suppose. Considering ms published tomb raider I think it's clear that they did help fund development of the game.
When Phil spoke against those content exclusivity deals he was met with the same backlash here and he responded with something like "I call that publishing a game"
Can't say I disagree. Will be an interesting holiday. In fact both shadow of war nd madden should be in august. They'll still probably get bundles but once September gets rolling it's a bloodbath waiting to happenShadow of War will have released, already supporting the Pro and have hit it's sales peak by the time Scorpio releases. FIFA & Madden will serve them well, as will their first party offerings no doubt - but Sony's nabbed some juggernauts here.
The company,the share holders, no doubt some gamers. Ppl can not like it rightfully so but it's nothing weird about itIt's always weird to me when developers get up on stage and proudly announce DLC/expansion packs/etc. will release a month earlier on a given platform.
Who is supposed to be cheering for this?
It's always weird to me when developers get up on stage and proudly announce DLC/expansion packs/etc. will release a month earlier on a given platform.
Who is supposed to be cheering for this?
They do tho.
disagee . I have played a lot of destiny , and never heard a PS player moan about it , cos were on all different networks anyway . It's crap for the overall community as these year long deals are bullshit , but there going down that road again . That's activision for you
Arent most of those deals made quite a while ago? In case of Destiny and COD?
And is Battlefront just not part of the Disney/Sony deal? If sales are really affecting it. Then isnt that only really the case for Red Dead?
Yes , but publishers gravitate to the best selling platform . Which currently is Sony . It will continue until next generation
First post does it.Pretty standard stuff when your outselling your main competition 2-1
Titan fall 1 originally. Halo wars 2. Ori. Etc. Also the obvious minecraftDidn't he also say he wouldn't invest in something that would release on competeting platforms ? That whole interview was shady, especially so in hindsight - so I'd rather not take Phil's word on it.
I really hate this shit. Especially with Sony and Capcom being bed buddies. First SFV is a Sony exclusive and then the VR Mode for RE7 is locked to PS4 for a year. Like WTF? This is not beneficial to me as a consumer regardless of whether I own all platforms or just 1.
I expect DMC5 to be a Sony exclusive next too and/or Marvel Infinite to have to PS4 only content.
Yes , but publishers gravitate to the best selling platform . Which currently is Sony . It will continue until next generation
This is IMHO the worst thing in this industry, stupid exclusive content. It's just annoying and stupid. We should not support that. Glad, that Microsoft is not supporting this crap.
PS4 was already outselling XB1 before the COD deal moved.
I am not denying that. As you see with Red Dead. Just saying dont think the other 3 were really affected by that. As they were set a while ago and in Battlefronts case is part of a another deal.
Pretty sure devs gravitate to whomever gives them the most money for marketing deals.
I'm still to see DR3 and DR4 on PS4.I really hate this shit. Especially with Sony and Capcom being bed buddies. First SFV is a Sony exclusive and then the VR Mode for RE7 is locked to PS4 for a year. Like WTF? This is not beneficial to me as a consumer regardless of whether I own all platforms or just 1.
I expect DMC5 to be a Sony exclusive next too and/or Marvel Infinite to have to PS4 only content.
You mean they saw a bigger cheque from Sony lolActivision saw the nightmare Xbox one reveal and decided to switch .
You can't play Nier on Xbox because the developer or/and publisher probably decided that it wasn't worth porting it to the Xbox. It's not shocking giving the almost zero presence Xbox has in Japan.It's nowhere near offensive as Sony. Tomb Raider was timed exclusive. It's crappy but OK the other guys will get it too. Other games such as Killer Instinct, Dead Rising, Ryse and most Xbox exclusives are now on PC. In some case such as Titanfall, everyone gets to play in the sequel. I don't see why I can't play Nier on Xbox.
It's nowhere near offensive as Sony. Tomb Raider was timed exclusive. It's crappy but OK the other guys will get it too. Other games such as Killer Instinct, Dead Rising, Ryse and most Xbox exclusives are now on PC. In some case such as Titanfall, everyone gets to play in the sequel. I don't see why I can't play Nier on Xbox.
Titan fall 1 originally. Halo wars 2. Ori. Etc. Also the obvious minecraft
I don't know what he said about that but they're clearly investing in games and putting it on their competitors platforms to some extent.
Now, obviously if I'm going to partner on it, I'm a platform holder, I'm hardly going to invest to go make the PlayStation version of any game. It is a business. So when we go invest with a partner on a big franchise, we're going to come with certain needs we have out of the relationship
Pretty sure devs gravitate to whomever gives them the most money for marketing deals.
No he does not. The developers came out and gave a reason why it's not on XboxBecause it's harder for them now to get as many deals as Sony. They're still doing it with stuff like Fifa where legends never comes to PS and we're talking here about 5 years (they even extended the deal). They did it with the Division as well in the same way PS are doing it with cod which is something they started. And this is the first time I heard that Sony paid Square to keep the game from Xbox. Do you have a source for that?
Well if your a Dev and going for a first party exclusive , Sony is who you want , given the sales power .if your marketing a third party exclusive , then It makes sense to side with the market leader as well . It's a win win . For Sony anyway , not for the consumer . It's just the way it is
You mean they saw a bigger cheque from Sony lol
Well if your a Dev and going for a first party exclusive , Sony is who you want , given the sales power .if your marketing a third party exclusive , then It makes sense to side with the market leader as well . It's a win win . For Sony anyway , not for the consumer . It's just the way it is
Except these deals where made before the consoles even came out, no?
Microsoft had ghost marketing so yeaNot sure honestly , didn't COD switch like a year after PS4 release ? I can't remember .
What? It's a little different from the Destiny model in that they helped fund development on Tomb Raider. They have a right to an exclusivity period on that
Not sure honestly , didn't COD switch like a year after PS4 release ? I can't remember .
This is IMHO the worst thing in this industry, stupid exclusive content. It's just annoying and stupid. We should not support that. Glad, that Microsoft is not supporting this crap.
Getting marketing rights on the largest and most popular platform is just common business sense.
But the exclusive timed shit has to stop. Nobody benefits from that. Sony is no exception.
I mean he's not really wrong though is he ? The playstation version of the game had a different publisher and developer. They never spent money on the ps4 version of the game. Semantics but he's not wrong.This is the direct quote when talking about Rise of the Tomb Raider:
I don't understand how funding development of the game wouldn't in turn be investing in the Playstation version to come. The whole interview was misleading and a clever bit of PR work from him to hide the true nature of the deal considering he later goes on to equate it to Dead Rising and Ryse, both of which never saw a release on any other console.