Sony Gamescom: PS4 install base exceeded 10 million units sold through globally.
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What momentum?
I think you're being unrealistically optimistic about the impact of those new markets.
LiveFromKyoto
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The crazy thing is they've done this with next to no help from Japan, where everything not made by Microsoft outsells it.
If these countries are "key markets" for MS, why wait so long to launch in them?
That could be a surprisingly big "if", though.
BruiserBear
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Worldwide, yes. But Microsoft easily won North America, and I think that early lead had a lot to do with it.
longdi
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Sony really let loose at gamescom, showing so many games! It is not the sheer volume, but how Sony snapped up all those developers. It only means they are still working hard to make PS4 the games console. And i thought they would turn a little complacent after PS4 successful launch.
Portugeezer
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The war is over. Again.
Harsh.
D
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Damn
publicpwnerer
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Either you're drunk as fuck or this is too meta for me.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Honestly I was shocked by the number of games they showed. I was expecting it to be a 80% or more rehash of E3 but damn.
Dragonborn
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TF is hard to say. The sequel might have a shot but I don't see it ever being the "next COD" like Respawn wanted. Shackling it to X1 killed it's chances, and now Destiny will eat their lunch.
10 million is very impressive for a console with no games worth playing yet. I'm still holding on to my PS3 as all the games I want will have a version for it. The only thing that intrigues me about PS4 at the moment is the Morpheus virtual reality device, which is far from release anyways... :-s
Prototype Viktor
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The entire new Robin Thicke album
Bam Bam Baklava
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You were missing a big detail there.
SwiftDeath
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Did we ever get "Sold to consumer" updates on Wii and PS2 console sales?
Otherwise I'm wondering the next time we'll be able to make a like for like comparison
At this rate Sony's not going to unshackle PS4 and PS3 shipments until late 2015 :\
PS4 should sell at least 3M WW this holiday season [that seems low to me, pessimistic even] and should stay ahead of the Wii and PS2 I think which is surprising
Duxxy3
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I don't think that ended up the big problem. The big problem was that it lacked so much content compared to the other AAA shooters. No proper campaign, thin multiplayer, no co-op of any kind.
Twitch streamers were all about Titanfall for about 2 weeks. By then they had blow through all of the real content in the game. Then they were back to Ghosts, even though many of them publicly state they hate the game. Ghosts just has more meat to it.
So how can you then say that the 360 "won" the generation? Because they came close to the successor of the PS2? Or was Mattrick's statement just about winning in North America?
Phoenician_Viking
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Damn, that´s very impressive.
The Wii probably got there faster looking at that chart. They were at ~9.27m 1.5 months earlier than the PS4 got to 10m and were shipping over 1m per month.
Wasn't the Wii basically sold out everywhere? I got mine over a year after launch and I believe they were still not abundant at that time.
Expected, but still amazing (see comparison Aquamarine made with Wii shipments).
I think 20 million by the end of the year is crazy, so I'm guessing for about 17-18 million.
Anyway, Sony, give us a press release with software sales as well, pls.
Indeed, it's more impressive if you consider PS4 is comatose in Japan:
Wii shipments by June 30 2007:
Japan: 2.95 million
Outside Japan: 6.32 million
PS4 sales to consumers by August 12(?) 2014:
Japan: 0.65 million
Outside Japan: over 9.35 million
Wii shipments by September 30 2007:
Japan: 3.67 million
Outside Japan: 9.5 million
I think 20 million by the end of the year is crazy, so I'm guessing for about 17-18 million.
Anyway, Sony, give us a press release with software sales as well, pls.
Indeed, it's more impressive if you consider PS4 is comatose in Japan:
Wii shipments by June 30 2007:
Japan: 2.95 million
Outside Japan: 6.32 million
PS4 sales to consumers by August 12(?) 2014:
Japan: 0.65 million
Outside Japan: over 9.35 million
Wii shipments by September 30 2007:
Japan: 3.67 million
Outside Japan: 9.5 million
KZObsessed
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Square Enix smh
PS4 haz no gaemz
illmatic22
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PS4 don't need no Japan. WEST(ern) SIDEEEEEE
The western hemisphere is the dancinest hemisphere!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLGAtvnMLU
The western hemisphere is the dancinest hemisphere!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLGAtvnMLU
Bam Bam Baklava
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I believe PS4 will sell 14m by year end. If the word of mouth gets big enough with games like Destiny then there could easily be some brief holiday period shortages as well.
EventHorizon
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The question though is what conceivable thing could Microsoft do to turn around current trends. Their hardware specs are set in stone. It looks like the PS4's components will drop in price faster than the XB1's so unless Microsoft wants to take a bath, they won't be able to undercut the price. Outside of North America and the UK, PlayStation has been the dominant platform even when the 360 was in its heyday.
Games take 2-3 years to make so even if Microsoft makes a huge investment in development it'll be many years before it's effects are felt. There simply isn't a lot Microsoft can do to change its current fate except perhaps buying timed exclusives from third party developers in an attempt to spike sales around the holidays when a good percentage of consoles are sold. The problem is that is a bandaid at best.
Sakura
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Something tells me the mobile user base is larger than the 10 million PS4 userbase.
And that games are cheaper to develop for it.
legacyzero
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Rats Off To Ya
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Post of the century.
based on the games coming and the sell rate, that is a pretty easy benchmark to reach
SwiftDeath
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It was heavily sold out for like a year and a half I believe but as I don't know what the Wii would've sold if it wasn't I can't compare it to that point can I?
I certainly think PS4 will cross streams with Wii at some point in time just surprised that it hasn't seemed to happen yet
ZSaberLink
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I actually don't get it... How exactly did they sell 10m already? Sales in the US are about 1m in the past 4 months, so did the rest of the world buy 2m PS4s in the past 4 months? The PS4 is basically a no-show in Japan anyhow, so it's interesting if so.
legacyzero
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Damn....
Thanks for the advice. But how could you not? The details and evidence are there.
There is a decent chance they already have. They were at 9.27m at 7m 12d and 13.17m at 10m 12d. If they shipped steadily over that quarter they would be over 11m at the same point the PS4 is at now.
all hope is not lost, it is timed exclusive
Ok, analysis about these numbers
USA LTD up to June (NPD)- 3,600,000
Japan LTD up to August 3rd, 2014 (Media Create)- 653,377
Now, theory: PS4 sold another 250,000 units in US in July (given the historical June-to-July transitions and PS4 performance in June, this should be an optimistic scenario), so US LTD up to July's NPD tracking period (end is on August 2nd, 2014) would be 3,850,000.
This brings the US + Japan most recent total up to 4,503,377
This means that, in the rest of the world, PS4 sold around 5,500,000 since it's 10 millions+ sold to customers. Probably a little more, since the US number is an optimistic estimate. So, ROTW = US x 1.5. From what I remember, Europe has certainly been a better market for Sony than US, but not that better, and not with a console doing well like PS4. So, the only reasonable explanation is that all the countries outside US, mainland Europe and Europe itself are giving a good contribution to the console's numbers, since it's impossible that Europe alone contributed for 5,500,000 units.
EDIT: Just forgot...congrats, Sony!
USA LTD up to June (NPD)- 3,600,000
Japan LTD up to August 3rd, 2014 (Media Create)- 653,377
Now, theory: PS4 sold another 250,000 units in US in July (given the historical June-to-July transitions and PS4 performance in June, this should be an optimistic scenario), so US LTD up to July's NPD tracking period (end is on August 2nd, 2014) would be 3,850,000.
This brings the US + Japan most recent total up to 4,503,377
This means that, in the rest of the world, PS4 sold around 5,500,000 since it's 10 millions+ sold to customers. Probably a little more, since the US number is an optimistic estimate. So, ROTW = US x 1.5. From what I remember, Europe has certainly been a better market for Sony than US, but not that better, and not with a console doing well like PS4. So, the only reasonable explanation is that all the countries outside US, mainland Europe and Europe itself are giving a good contribution to the console's numbers, since it's impossible that Europe alone contributed for 5,500,000 units.
EDIT: Just forgot...congrats, Sony!