That's what it should have been. Now its just a gimped Vita that happens to connect to your tv.
Sony reveals PlayStation Vue streaming service.
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That's what it should have been. Now its just a gimped Vita that happens to connect to your tv.
Yup...with a hint of crushed blacks.
Miles Quaritch
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Seems like this will work out well.
I don't think (m)any people here see this annoucement as a bad thing; it's obviously far better than a console with hdmi pass-through that requires an additional cable box.
Of course this doesn't make PS4 less of a gaming machine. We are just having some fun.
hodayathink
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Also, it's going to be interesting how seriously they're going to consider (and how much money they may put into) making original content for this. I mean, it looks like Powers isn't going to be very good, but Sony Pictures' TV division is responsible for producing things like Breaking Bad and Community.
Americanmushroom
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I dont care for Vue whatsoever but this post tastes like salt though. Let me get some french fries
Sophistical Bunt
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I wouldn't say that. You don't know what the pricing is yet nor whether it will offer all of the channels and TV programmes you want. Plus it's of no use to me at all if it's not launched in the UK. Also, here in the UK you don't need an additional cable box. You can use the TV adapter that costs £25, which also gives you the ability to pause TV while you play a game and "sling" live TV to a phone or tablet while you play a game.
I pay £58 a month for 160 Mbps broadband, a TiVo with 150+ channels and tons of free on-demand content including full TV series, documentaries, music videos and "catch up TV", and a phone line with free calls 24/7. Playstation Vue is going to have to launch in the UK, be fucking amazing and be pretty cheap to get me to dump the cable TV part of my package. Maybe in America you pay shits loads more than we do though, I dunno.
Americanmushroom
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Breaking Bad is Sony pictures?
I dont think anyone said MS couldn't do this, but that people were skeptical that cable providers would agree to use the Xb1 as the cable box for their services. Of course I could be wrong.
Production company(s):
High Bridge Entertainment
Gran Via Productions
Sony Pictures Television
From Wikipedia, news to me aswell.
According to Google, it would seem so.
That's surprising, to say the least :O
Brad Grenz
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Hell, sign a two year contract and they'll probably give you a PSTV for every television in your home. When you think about how much most people are paying just in DVR rentals and HD fees on a per television basis, having all that transparently done on the cloud side and accessible from most internet connected devices will be really amazing.
Totally agree that missing the streaming apps make it terrible. It could be a pretty good device with them and this would also help a lot.
With the gaming back catalog and this streaming service, Sony could beat the competitors in the streaming box market easily because they could offer better content. Now they don't even offer content that is available everywhere (e.g. Netflix).
ZettaiSeigi
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It appears that Sony Pictures Television is also behind another excellent TV show, The Blacklist. It's a co-production with Universal and another outfit, but still...
The mental gymnastic is amazing. Its hypocracy no matter how you try to present it.
And I have no faith in Sony as a service provider, so well see how they implement this. It being cloud based is a good direction, but I feel you can't battle with cable networks.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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That whole thread was more about speculation that the IPTV platform would have the same DRM as multiscreen DLNA.
This announcement shows there is a least a little bit of smoke here.
serversurfer
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Imagine if your cable television came to you like the Netflix app works. With Netflix, you can watch the entire season of Sleepy Hollow like nine months after it airs, or whatever.
With Vue, you'll be able to choose from everything that's been on TV in the last three days on every
participating
It's regular TV, but delivered on-demand like Netflix.
There's nothing new about extra non-gaming features.
What was different in Xbox One's case was that all these other visions seemed to be actively at the expense of the machine's capability as a games platform and it seemed, to a certain extent, Microsoft's focus on game production.
The latter has changed, as it's had to when Microsoft's credibility started to have a market impact, but the former remains a permanent mark on the system.
That's why Microsoft got so much stick. They introduced the machine without much games focus, and their hardware decisions seemed to have everything to do with 'everything else' and little to do with games as an overriding priority.
This service here is the definition of an 'after the fact' additional feature.
thebigmanjosh
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Not sure if this has been posted, but this answers my concerns:
- CBS - At launch, PlayStation Vue will offer the live linear signal from CBS Television Network's owned-and-operated TV stations in select leading markets in addition to on-demand prime-time programming.
- Discovery Communications - Discovery Channel, TLC, Animal Planet, Investigation Discovery, Science, OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network, Discovery Family Channel and 11 more brands.
- Fox - Fox Networks Group's portfolio of national entertainment programming services, including - FX, FXX, FXM, National Geographic Channel and Nat Geo WILD. Additionally FOX Sports' national and regional programming services - FOX Sports 1, FOX Sports 2, BTN, Fox's regional sports networks, including YES Network and Prime Ticket. The agreement also covers Fox's owned and operated television stations.
- NBCUniversal - All local offerings from NBC, Telemundo and regional sports networks as well as Bravo, CNBC, E!, NBCSN, Oxygen, Sprout, Syfy, USA Network and more.
- Scripps Networks Interactive - HGTV, Food Network, Travel Channel, DIY Network and Cooking Channel.
- Viacom - BET, CMT, Comedy Central, MTV, Nickelodeon, Palladia, Spike, VH1 and more.
Looks like local sports will be included with the deal. If it works as intended this will be a major breakthrough for cloud/streaming services as sports have been omitted from previous deals.
ForsakenLotus
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This is along the lines of what I thought Microsoft would do from the beginning with the Xbox One. This could be really big.
C'mon Disney, make it happen.
C'mon Disney, make it happen.
Sophistical Bunt
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That's how cable TV works over here in the UK. Don't you guys have that in the US?
Being able to watch literally any programme that's aired on any of the available channels in the last 3 days is cool though. While we have catch-up TV that goes a lot longer than 3 days over here, it's only available on the most popular channels.
Sony does a bunch of tv, this isn't news.
To name a few:
Wheel of Fortune
Jeopardy
Blacklist
Breaking Bad
Community
Justified
Masters of Sex
Plus they are involved with Hannibal to an extent.
hodayathink
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http://www.sonypictures.com/tv/ and http://www.sonypictures.com/tv/ontelevision/
I also didn't mention Justified, Masters of Sex and The Goldbergs, in terms of shows that are still on the air and fairly popular.
Can't see this being successful at all. The only real draw for live TV is sports. VUE will not carry local sports, I'd be surprised if they even show national games. Hulu will most likely be similarly priced, if not cheaper, and you can watch what you want, when you want, and without commercials.
Most cable subscribers don't have a PS3 or PS4. Of the ones that do, how many will ever even hear about VUE ? Of those, how many can live without Disney/ ESPN and live local sports ?
I just don't see it.
Most cable subscribers don't have a PS3 or PS4. Of the ones that do, how many will ever even hear about VUE ? Of those, how many can live without Disney/ ESPN and live local sports ?
I just don't see it.
You can have Hulu without commercials now??
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I know that Americans feel that the whole world doesn't exist outside of the US of A but really. The thread title should read.
"Sony reveals PlayStation Vue streaming service in the US only"
It's completely useless to the rest of us.
"Sony reveals PlayStation Vue streaming service in the US only"
It's completely useless to the rest of us.
From a few posts up, it sounds like it will have some sports?
Also, it seems it is coming to more than Playstation devices. iPad shortly after, and I'm guessing pretty much everything with an internet connection over time. A bit like PS Now, I guess...you won't actually need a Playstation. This would or could be way too big a deal for Sony to limit it to PS devices.
Brad Grenz
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Vue will carry live sports. Games on CBS, Fox and NBC are all covered because the service brings you the feed to your local affiliate for those networks just like cable or satellite. Fox and NBC's sports cable networks are specifically mentioned. ESPN and ABC are definitely a big hole, but if you're going from paying $85/mo for cable TV to less than $30 some might think that's worthwhile.
thebigmanjosh
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Read my post above. It looks like the service will carry Fox, CBS, and NBC live and local sports, as well as the Fox Sports channels. The only thing missing for now is ESPN and TNT.
The only sports this won't cover are Monday night football games (ESPN) and some basketball games (TNT, ESPN1/2/3/8). What's still questionable are the conference specific networks like PAC12 and SEC, and regional sports networks like NBC Sports and comcast sportsnet. Either way, all local teams should be broadcast on local networks according to Sony's list.
And if Sony isn't making the TV, chances are it's being filmed with one of their cameras. Hell I believe most live sports use Sony cameras.
Point being to all the people upset over this and comparing this to Xbox one need to realize that Sony pretty much owns entertainment and have for many decades. I even believe they own the majority of music you listen to. Them and Universal are the Big 2.
How ?
I've already explained its two different situations.
Go back and watch the xbone reveal and then compare it to this.
TheBryanJZX90
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Also this would be perfect if Obama can actually make net neutrality happen.
This hasn't been true for years.
Lol are you kidding? It's cheaper than Redbox for a lot of the games on it.
CBS looks like only owned and operated markets though for live TV. It's a little unclear in regards to Fox.
I don't see any hypocrisy. MS weren't criticised for having a TV app. They were criticised for having almost an entire reveal about TV, and then barely even delivering on that - trending has only just shown up on Xbox one, a year later.
Also their solution requires additional hardware which increases the cost. Whereas Sony have always taken a software based approach for the console at least - playTV and Nasne with PS3 needed you to buy a tuner if you wanted TV, but that meant no extra cost forced upon the core console. and with things like this service and dish hopper, they are focusing again on a software solution for TV in the home.
Also their solution requires additional hardware which increases the cost. Whereas Sony have always taken a software based approach for the console at least - playTV and Nasne with PS3 needed you to buy a tuner if you wanted TV, but that meant no extra cost forced upon the core console. and with things like this service and dish hopper, they are focusing again on a software solution for TV in the home.
hodayathink
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Sony's problem for the past decade or so, though, has been that they've generally been terrible about using that advantage to help them sell other products. A service like this, IMO, is a big test to see whether or not that's changing.
Don't get your hopes up. Shows of that caliber, i.e. good enough to have a shot at being successful on local/cable TV, will continue to target those spaces.
Honestly, there's no point in tying something like Breaking Bad to PS+ anyway. The audience at large wouldn't even appreciate it.
All my local teams are on Comcast Sports Net (CSN), I'm in a pretty huge market in Northern Ca.
I guess we'll have to wait and see how the sports situation is handled. Live sports does have different/more strict broadcasting rules than other programming.
thekiddfran
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Well, that brand isn't coming to the UK then...
Yup I was just thinking the same. We have a huge Vue cinema in Ireland also!
Could not agree more. They do a great job in the pro market though
thebigmanjosh
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Let's say I live in SF, I'm assuming I would be able to watch live programming from the KBCW-TV CBS station or KTVU Fox station, including things like 49ers and Giants games, through the service since they're owned and operated by CBS/FOX. It's unclear which markets and what they mean by "select leading markets" for some channels.
Here's where I got the info I posted a little bit up on the page: http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/13/7213223/playstation-vue-cable-tv-ps3-ps4-ipad
That's the big question, but it seems like this service is at least reaching out to integrate live sports into the programming. I rarely watch CSN outside of sports news so that wouldn't be an issue, but you're right about the strict rules. It would be interesting to see how this service is affected by sports blackouts for smaller markets.
Stare-Bear
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Now that's the future of tv. Not plugging your crappy cable box into your console.
Right SF has both Fox and CBS owned and operated stations so you'll likely get a live linear feed of you local stations. CBS All Access has the same restrictions for live TV, it also blocks NFL games, and it's only available in the 14 or so owned and operated markets.
If they get disney and are able to broadcast live sports. It'd be the first cable cutter I'd consider. I need my college and pro football and college basketball.
Bandwidth caps are pretty rare and where they exist they are rarely enforced on anything but mobile. Speeds very greatly though with large cities being able to go 100+Mbps while some rural areas might getg lucky to have 5Mbps as the top end and pay for it what 50Mbps costs in a large city.
Bandwidth caps are pretty rare and where they exist they are rarely enforced on anything but mobile. Speeds very greatly though with large cities being able to go 100+Mbps while some rural areas might getg lucky to have 5Mbps as the top end and pay for it what 50Mbps costs in a large city.