Sony reveals PlayStation Vue streaming service.

Does this mean we'll be able to pick and choose which channels, or even which shows, we subscribe to instead of buying a huge package from the cable companies?
 
Sophistical Bunt said:
It's not a lot different than paying for cable TV though, is it? It's just that the PS4 becomes the cable box and you pay Sony instead.
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it seems different in that there's no contract required and it works across the devices you already have

The Beard said:
Can't see this being successful at all. The only real draw for live TV is sports. VUE will not carry local sports, I'd be surprised if they even show national games. Hulu will most likely be similarly priced, if not cheaper, and you can watch what you want, when you want, and without commercials.

Most cable subscribers don't have a PS3 or PS4. Of the ones that do, how many will ever even hear about VUE ? Of those, how many can live without Disney/ ESPN and live local sports ?

I just don't see it.
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i mean i'm not trying to speak for anyone else, but i have a PS3 and a PS4, never watch any sports, and i still keep a cable subscription pretty much solely for tv shows on HBO, FX, AMC, showtime, etc. and i'll probably keep cable until there's a viable alternative. stuff like this is really interesting, but the content has to be there for me to be able to make the switch
 
Xenus said:
If they get disney and are able to broadcast live sports. It'd be the first cable cutter I'd consider. I need my college and pro football and college basketball.



Bandwidth caps are pretty rare and where they exist they are rarely enforced on anything but mobile. Speeds very greatly though with large cities being able to go 100+Mbps while some rural areas might getg lucky to have 5Mbps as the top end and pay for it what 50Mbps costs in a large city.
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How about this net neutrality thing I'm hearing about? If that fails, could ISPs become more of a threat or is that fear mongering?
 
hodayathink said:
It's not about the cable box. It's about the extra $30-40 (because that's where I see the pricing for this coming in) they can get per Playstation user. And besides, there's no way they don't roll this out to PSTV, which is a $100 box at the moment. Hell, if this catches on in any real way, I can easily see them offering to give you a PSTV for free if you agree to pay for 6-12 months of the service.
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For sure they'll sell this with a discounted PSTV. Get a PS TV for $39 when you buy 6 months of Vue.
 
Massive reveal.

I really hope they can get a deal done for the UK as well, but I highly doubt Sky will play ball with Sony and without their channels it would make the whole enterprise a bit useless over here.

Hopefully TW and Disney see the light as well over the next year or so and add their services as well. Cord cutters are about to go into a golden age in the US. I would love to get rid of my Sky subscription, but there is nothing like PSVue over here, Netflix is the only good VoD service.

What surprised me is how comprehensive Sony's content offering is, they even have Fox Sports lined up, if they can get Disney/ESPN on board then it would be a massive deal for sports watchers in the US.

stryke said:
How about this net neutrality thing I'm hearing about? If that fails, could ISPs become more of a threat or is that fear mongering?
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Cable companies would be able to charge Sony for the bandwidth, which would get rolled into the subscription fee. The reason cable companies are so adamant about getting rid of NN is because they know as soon as services like this are launched cord cutters become a massive threat to their business model so they need to be able to charge more for the bandwidth they provide by selling it to companies like Sony and Netflix (competitors) at higher rates than they would for others. They could easily add $10-15 on to the price of this subscription per month plus $5 for Netflix and essentially throttle access to them if the customer/VoD company doesn't pay up.
 
zomgbbqftw said:
Massive reveal.

I really hope they can get a deal done for the UK as well, but I highly doubt Sky will play ball with Sony and without their channels it would make the whole enterprise a bit useless over here.

Hopefully TW and Disney see the light as well over the next year or so and add their services as well. Cord cutters are about to go into a golden age in the US. I would love to get rid of my Sky subscription, but there is nothing like PSVue over here, Netflix is the only good VoD service.

What surprised me is how comprehensive Sony's content offering is, they even have Fox Sports lined up, if they can get Disney/ESPN on board then it would be a massive deal for sports watchers in the US.
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Won't SKY just make them use that NowTV service like they do on XB360?
 
zomgbbqftw said:
Massive reveal.

I really hope they can get a deal done for the UK as well, but I highly doubt Sky will play ball with Sony and without their channels it would make the whole enterprise a bit useless over here.

Hopefully TW and Disney see the light as well over the next year or so and add their services as well. Cord cutters are about to go into a golden age in the US. I would love to get rid of my Sky subscription, but there is nothing like PSVue over here, Netflix is the only good VoD service.

What surprised me is how comprehensive Sony's content offering is, they even have Fox Sports lined up, if they can get Disney/ESPN on board then it would be a massive deal for sports watchers in the US.
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The biggest surprise is they got NBC Universal on board, given this kind of service represents a big threat to Comcast. But maybe Comcast has finally grown comfortable with the idea they are simply a bandwidth provider going forward.
 
Holy hell I didn't catch the bit about them launching soon on iPad. That's big that they are getting it on iOS right away.
 
your game system, TV and broadband connection are all you need
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As long as a Playstation console is required to use this service I don't see it getting any major traction on the marketshare.
 
Prine said:
The mental gymnastic is amazing. Its hypocracy no matter how you try to present it
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Are you joking or just irrational? It's very clear that the criticism is not the existance of multimedia functionality but rather the perceived priority given to it. Microsoft was clearly emphasizing the multimedia functionality at its reveal, and the perception was reinforced by the lower powered hardware and ram optimized for multitasking and OS functionality.

If Sony announced the PS4 by premiering Vue along with a live demonstration of it plus the OS instead of showing games, then the situations would be similar.

Again, the criticism of the XB1 was never about the mere existance of features. It's the difference between a cable box that plays games and a game system that features cable.
 
shagg_187 said:
PlayStation™Vue, a pioneering new cloud-based TV service that reinvents the television experience.

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"Everyday TV is about to become extraordinary with our new cloud-based TV service, PlayStation™Vue," said Andrew House, President and Group CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and Group Executive in charge of the Network Entertainment Business. "PlayStation™Vue reinvents the traditional viewing experience so your programming effortlessly finds you, enabling you to watch much more of what you want and search a lot less. PlayStation™Vue brings the best of live TV and a robust catalog of the latest content, always keeping you connected to what's popular, new and trending. Today's announcement builds on the historic success of PlayStation®4 and demonstrates what our company is capable of when we embrace disruption and stay true to gamers."

Removing Barriers between Viewers and Content:

PlayStation™Vue leverages the power of the cloud to combine the live, on-demand, and catch-up TV content viewers love with a powerful user interface that delivers unprecedented personalization and simplicity.

  • PlayStation™Vue immediately connects viewers to the content they want to watch, helps them easily access their favorite shows and channels, and recommends movies and shows based on their viewing habits and what's trending.
  • Discovering content is both simple and powerful with PlayStation™Vue. The smart "Search" feature narrows down results quickly and intuitively, and the powerful "Explore" function allows viewers to filter the entire catalog of live and on-demand content by type of program, genre, ratings, popularity, length and more.
  • PlayStation™Vue delivers catch-up and on-demand TV, freeing viewers to watch TV on their own schedules. The service makes the past three days of popular programming available without the need to schedule recordings.
  • Viewers can save their favorite shows to the cloud without storage restrictions or scheduling conflicts. Once viewers tag a favorite show, they will automatically have access to episodes of that show for 28 days so that they can watch on their own time.
  • PlayStation™Vue is simple to navigate and intuitive to use. By leveraging the power of the PlayStation® platform and controller, viewers are always one click away from quick access to watching, finding, and discovering content.

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The Best Content on TV:

During the invite-only beta, PlayStation™Vue will initially offer around 75 channels per market from the following major programmers, including local broadcast stations, so that viewers can enjoy their favorite movies, TV shows, and sports programs.

The following is a list of our current network partners, with additional partners to be announced in the future:

  • CBS – At launch, PlayStation®Vue will offer the live linear signal from CBS Television Network's owned-and-operated TV stations in select leading markets in addition to on-demand prime-time programming.
  • Discovery Communications – Discovery Channel, TLC, Animal Planet, Investigation Discovery, Science, OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network, Discovery Family Channel and 11 more brands.
  • Fox – Fox Networks Group's portfolio of national entertainment programming services, including - FX, FXX, FXM, National Geographic Channel and Nat Geo WILD. Additionally FOX Sports' national and regional programming services - FOX Sports 1, FOX Sports 2, BTN, Fox's regional sports networks, including YES Network and Prime Ticket. The agreement also covers Fox's owned and operated television stations.
  • NBCUniversal – All local offerings from NBC, Telemundo and regional sports networks as well as Bravo, CNBC, E!, NBCSN, Oxygen, Sprout, Syfy, USA Network and more.
  • Scripps Networks Interactive – HGTV, Food Network, Travel Channel, DIY Network and Cooking Channel.
  • Viacom – BET, CMT, Comedy Central, MTV, Nickelodeon, PALLADIA, Spike, VH1 and more.

Transparent Pricing with No Commitments:

Pricing and packaging details will be revealed at commercial launch but PlayStation™Vue is changing the rules for how people pay for subscription TV.

  • What you see is what you pay – fair and competitive price that is transparent with no hidden fees or charges.
  • No contracts – maximum flexibility as PlayStation™Vue will be offered on a month-to-month basis without any penalty or customer service hassles for cancellation.
  • No equipment or installation charges – with broadband internet service and a PlayStation®4 system or PlayStation®3 system, there's no need to install or rent any additional equipment.

Availability:

PlayStation™Vue will begin an invite only beta preview during November for select PlayStation®4 and PlayStation®3 owners, with a phased rollout starting in New York followed later by Chicago, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles. The service will also become available on iPad® shortly thereafter, and later on more Sony and non-Sony devices.

PlayStation™Vue will launch commercially during the first quarter of 2015.
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They are missing Disney-owned channels, but what they are offering already sounds great.

It will be interesting to see what will be their plans for EU and the rest of the world.
 
Caayn said:
As long as a Playstation console is required to use this service I don't see it getting any major traction on the marketshare.
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Dog, they also said its coming to iPad after PS4 and PS3. Before other Sony devices even. That's huge. With AirPlay and the number of iOS devices out there, Sony clearly wants this to go beyond Playstation. They only need the name because that's their entertainment hit right now.
 
Caayn said:
As long as a Playstation console is required to use this service I don't see it getting any major traction on the marketshare.
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PSTV - $99, free with a 12 month subscription to "x" pack. That is the true purpose of PSTV, not to somehow make the Vita a viable platform.
 
Prine said:
The mental gymnastic is amazing. Its hypocracy no matter how you try to present it.

And I have no faith in Sony as a service provider, so well see how they implement this. It being cloud based is a good direction, but I feel you can't battle with cable networks.
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Anyone who saw all the entertainment apps like HBO Go that Sony was claiming they'd get on PS4 and somehow thought they weren't pursuing entertainment is a fool to marketing. They simply were pointing at Microsoft's poor targeting, not saying they will back out of having good apps and providers. It's too obvious that people want these on their consoles for anyone to have thought Sony was saying they wouldn't pursue it. They just wouldn't make the mistake of building their system to sell TV apps at that price without selling it to gamers first.
 
zomgbbqftw said:
PSTV - $99, free with a 12 month subscription to "x" pack. That is the true purpose of PSTV, not to somehow make the Vita a viable platform.
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If SCEA (or Sony overall) cared enough to do that, I'd have at least expected Netflix to be working on PSTV right now.
 
At people complaining this is not for the gamers: Stop spamming Sony then that the PS4 UI is too simple, the constant asking for youtube, dlna, etc. sony themselves were surprised that people were asking for these features as they focused on the 'console' itself for games. After all the complaining no wonder they are doing these kind pf stuff now. People are never happy.

- 'I want a consoleto play Games!'
-'Here is your console to play games. The most powerful one'
-'Where the fuck are the other features?'
-'what other features'?
-'Stuff that has nothing to do with gaming!, I want it! '
- 'ok we'll work on it'
- ??? Whats PS Vue? The fuck? This is not 4thegamers at ALL!'
 
zomgbbqftw said:
PSTV - $99, free with a 12 month subscription to "x" pack. That is the true purpose of PSTV, not to somehow make the Vita a viable platform.
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Makes sense why it was rebranded Playstation TV now as well as the streaming service is also under the Playstation branding.
 
stryke said:
If SCEA (or Sony overall) cared enough to do that, I'd have at least expected Netflix to be working on PSTV right now.
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It may shock you to learn that is probably in Netflix's hands, not Sony's. I'm sure Sony would like nothing better than for the Netflix app to support PSTV, but they can't force Netflix to do anything. Hopefully Netflix is working on a 10ft interface option in the Vita app for PSTV.
 
Brad Grenz said:
It may shock you to learn that is probably in Netflix's hands, not Sony's. I'm sure Sony would like nothing better than for the Netflix app to support PSTV, but they can't force Netflix to do anything. Hopefully Netflix is working on a 10ft interface option in the Vita app for PSTV.
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Don't MS and Sony have to pay for the apps development?

That's why there are so many more on X1 compared to PS4?

So couldn't Sony pay to have PSTV support patched in?
 
freefornow said:
Andrew House
"This is an opportunity, in my view, to fulfill a longer goal of transforming what was in the past a dedicated game device into a proper entertainment hub," he told Bloomberg.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-a-new-cloud-based-tv-service-for-ps4-and-ps3

So, not 4thegamer after all.

Don Matrick must be feeling pretty butt hurt.
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Those two aren't mutually exclusive. The PlayStation platform has always been about both games and media since its inception, even more so since the PS2. It's not like the concept is a new one. The backlash at Microsoft occurred because they unveiled and advertised the XB1 with the focus on TV and sports, but I guess people just like to forget that every time a media feature is added to the PS4.
 
Nightengale said:
This hurts me. ;_;
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Hey I love my Vita too which is why I choose to look at tis with SmokeyDavr levels of optimism. If they do a subscription get the PSTV free and even just 1 million people sign up that's a potential 1 million more people that can be a user base for a Vita game,
 
Kenak said:
Are you joking or just irrational? It's very clear that the criticism is not the existance of multimedia functionality but rather the perceived priority given to it. Microsoft was clearly emphasizing the multimedia functionality at its reveal, and the perception was reinforced by the lower powered hardware and ram optimized for multitasking and OS functionality.

If Sony announced the PS4 by premiering Vue along with a live demonstration of it plus the OS instead of showing games, then the situations would be similar.

Again, the criticism of the XB1 was never about the mere existance of features. It's the difference between a cable box that plays games and a game system that features cable.
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Your doing it again, the priority wasn't greater than gaming though, but collaborated better then before for all entertainment needs, and the multitasking/OS features were to enrich gaming, by ensuring your ready to play no matter what other entertainment options your engaged with, its always been a gaming machine first. Its no point arguing about method of introduction as its clear now that Sony was always focused on TV, which is fine as I encourage it, but people are calling them and fans out because this was used as a critism against MS (listen here) for allocating resources in this area, now you can't change your tune all of a sudden.
 
Sophistical Bunt said:
That's how cable TV works over here in the UK. Don't you guys have that in the US?

Being able to watch literally any programme that's aired on any of the available channels in the last 3 days is cool though. While we have catch-up TV that goes a lot longer than 3 days over here, it's only available on the most popular channels.
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Cable TV in the US had some on-demand features, but nothing as nice as the Netflix or Amazon apps, for example. This will be more like that.

Plus, I won't actually need cable TV anymore; this will replace it, with a better service.
 
CannonO said:
Dog, they also said its coming to iPad after PS4 and PS3. Before other Sony devices even. That's huge. With AirPlay and the number of iOS devices out there, Sony clearly wants this to go beyond Playstation. They only need the name because that's their entertainment hit right now.
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Ah, my bad. Didn't saw that mentioned in the OP.
 
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