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[BossLackey]

I don't doubt for a second that at one point everything will be cloud-based

I think you're right but I fucking hate it.

I just want local hardware that I own that plays games I own.

I hate that video games have turned into a strip mine for big companies to give us less while making us pay more.

If I only knew how precious the days were when coming home from the store with a physical game in-hand and a thick manual to pore over.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

It's really weird for me to see Sony news related to them going multiplat. They've done extremely well having exclusives for generations, and now they're randomly going multiplat? Games will sell more if they're available on other systems, but you're guaranteed to sell less systems, less games on PS where the revenue is 100%, less PS+ subs and less peripheral sales. I don't get it.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

They're selling the units at a loss per Kepler, they're probably happy getting more of your money from software sales.

Didn't they say a couple years ago the PS5 was sold at a profit? Maybe I'm misremembering.

How does this effect your enjoyment of a console?

Back in the day it made sense to stick to one hardware because the specs were unique but now a PS5 game is basically a Xbox Series & PC game it will only take a small effort to port them over to the other platforms.

Because people have to be outraged about something at all times. Everything is doomed no matter what nowadays.

it happened every single time a new PS game went on PC, and it happened every time Xbox did even the smallest thing wrong. Hell it even happened to Nintendo multiple times in the past year including the "outrageous price that nobody is going to pay for" with the SW2.

 

[Bry0]

Digital Locker , Only Nintendo will be able to avoid this .

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Thread 'IMO Sony is forced to release their games on PC because soon it will be all about the digital locker & being able to play your games anywhere'

Jan 17, 2020

If Sony didn't release games on PC they would be at a disadvantage in the digital locker age. in the digital locker age hardware will not matter you will just buy the software & play it wherever you like but it would be pointless for people to choose to by from Sony if their licence only worked for PS5.

This is where we are headed

Next mind bending prediction: You will be able to play PS5 games on your PS4 , Xbox One , Xbox Scarlet , PC , Mac , Android phone & iPhone even if you don't own a PS5.

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• onQ123
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I have become your #1 fan

 

[GHG]

Best you can hope for now is that they copy the Play Anywhere program and make a PC store. Physical bros on suicide watch.

Nobody wants a sony/PlayStation PC store.

 

[LordCBH]

Just give me good fucking games. That's all I fucking want.

 

[BossLackey]

It's really weird for me to see Sony news related to them going multiplat. They've done extremely well having exclusives for generations, and now they're randomly going multiplat? Games will sell more if they're available on other systems, but you're guaranteed to sell less systems, less games on PS where the revenue is 100%, less PS+ subs and less peripheral sales. I don't get it.

I don't either, but I'm sure this is guided by a bunch of data-backed figures.

Problem is, making long-term decisions this way can easily blow up.

 

[Mr Moose]

Xbox have not been console centric for years now.

And that's why it's dead.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

They want to kill PlayStation? (PlayStation is a console, just like Xbox is a console).

Original Tweet is gone? adamsapple

Take a hint.

Their console hardware is selling well despite doing opposite of what they should do according to common wisdom in gaming circles.

 

[Punished Miku]

Nobody wants a sony/PlayStation PC store.

I do. I'd much rather give them 100% of the money for a game they make than give a 3rd to Valve so they can buy some bullshit. And I still have a PSN account and lots of older digital games. I'd take a Nintendo store too. Just have everything load up in the multi-store UI and everyone can keep their own money for their games.

But my comment wasn't really about that. I'm talking about PS bros. They'd of course LOVE a full copy of the Play Anywhere program. It's their last hope.

 

[PSFore]

They don't see any competition to the PS6 for an at-home console. Maybe they know something about the Series X successor that we don't. No point in exclusives- console gamers will buy the PS6 anyway.

 

[Karim]

This is the worst/most idiotic management on playstation without any doubt. I mean of course it will happens first or later but announce it after announced to sold so many ps5 with higher price than launch it's simply idiotic.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Ray tracing could prevent their platform from ever getting universal support from third parties.

Who needs third parties?

 

[TrebleShot]

I dont know why they keep pretending and just announce it only children and man babies will be upset.

 

[Mr Moose]

Take a hint.

Their console hardware is selling well despite doing opposite of what they should do according to common wisdom in gaming circles.

More places they put their games = less need for their hardware. This happened with Xbox. They will fuck around and find out.

 

[adamsapple]

They want to kill PlayStation? (PlayStation is a console, just like Xbox is a console).

Original Tweet is gone? adamsapple
Edit: Went to their page and it's there, weird.

I think embedding is messing up, I've had that issue last few days, which is why i took pics before posting and kept the 'original' tweets under spoiler tags.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Nobody wants a sony/PlayStation PC store.

I would like to have that.

They can compete with xbox store on next gen xbox console.

 

[Karim]

I dont know why they keep pretending and just announce it only children and man babies will be upset.

It's no matter to be upset. They can slowdown (furthermore) the future hardware sales. It's incredibly stupid.

 

[PeteBull]

Multiplatform confirmed.

Spoiler

Disgusting

 

[Mr Moose]

I think embedding is messing up, I've had that issue last few days, which is why i took pics before posting and kept the 'original' tweets under spoiler tags.

Do you just copy and paste the link to the Tweet or something else? (Copy/paste seems to always work for me).

 

[PSFore]

It's no matter to be upset. They can slowdown (furthermore) the future hardware sales. It's incredibly stupid.

What console are people going to buy instead? Might lose some to the Switch 2 if they end up porting games there, but it's always been a different market than the Xbox/PlayStation.

 

[GHG]

I do. I'd much rather give them 100% of the money for a game they make than give a 3rd to Valve so they can buy some bullshit. And I still have a PSN account and lots of older digital games. I'd take a Nintendo store too. Just have everything load up in the multi-store UI and everyone can keep their own money for their games.

You're not a PC gamer so you have no concept or understanding of why most of these publisher PC stores are a pile of shit.

There's a reason people would rather use steam, to the extent where they will gladly rebuy games they already own elsewhere in order to avoid having to install and boot up utter shite like the microsoft/ea/epic/Ubisoft/etc stores.

I would like to have that.

They can compete with xbox store on next gen xbox console.

The above also applies to you.

 

[Karim]

What console are people going to buy instead? Might lose some to the Switch 2 if they end up porting games there, but it's always been a different market than the Xbox/PlayStation.

Switch 2 and more pc. What it's even the point of playstation outside to be incredibly lower price and it doesn't seem the case looking at the pro. If they think to gain more with psstore everywhere and to be less hardware centric they are incredibly stupid.

 

[adamsapple]

Do you just copy and paste the link to the Tweet or something else? (Copy/paste seems to always work for me).

Copy paste the tweet link, not sure why. Doesn't always happen but has happened for me last few days frequently.

 

[Katatonic]

All these PlayStation related threads by MS centric posters trying to control the narrative.

 

[onQ123]

More places they put their games = less need for their hardware. This happened with Xbox. They will fuck around and find out.

PlayStation situation is not Xbox Situation.

Xbox made these changes because the hardware sales was dying it wasn't the other way around.

 

[Mr Moose]

All these PlayStation related threads by MS centric posters trying to control the narrative.

Someone had to post it.

PlayStation situation is not Xbox Situation.

Xbox made these changes because the hardware sales was dying it wasn't the other way around.

They started putting their games on PC (and GamePass) day one before Series launched, it doesn't help with hardware sales.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

It's friggin' over man. End of an era.

I'll always remember the good times, at least

What console are people going to buy instead? Might lose some to the Switch 2 if they end up porting games there, but it's always been a different market than the Xbox/PlayStation.

Steambox for me going forward, whenever Valve actually reveal & release it. And Switch 2 for Nintendo's games and whatever 3P exclusives they get.

I can easily get PlayStation and Xbox games on both of those, but plenty of exclusives between Steambox (PC) and Switch 2 not on a PlayStation or Xbox. Easy choice.

 

[Punished Miku]

You're not a PC gamer so you have no concept or understanding of why most of these publisher PC stores are a pile of shit.

There's a reason people would rather use steam, to the extent where they will gladly rebuy games they already own elsewhere in order to avoid having to install and boot up utter shite like the microsoft/ea/epic/Ubisoft/etc stores.



The above also applies to you.

If most of the walled gardens are collapsing, I'd rather give my money to the people making games. Sony, for all my criticism of them, still makes games. If a lot of people are moving to PC and all 3rd party content is bought through digital storefronts, it would be catastrophic to have 1/3rd of the industry funding yachts instead of funding cyclical game development.

Valve doesn't even employ people lol. They have what less than 500 people for all that money? They're a parasite with a good store. Millions of Sony bros would use a PS Store on PC.

 

[adamsapple]

All these PlayStation related threads by MS centric posters trying to control the narrative.

Yeah man look at my *checks note* controlling the narrative by posting a direct quote from the Sony Senior VP.

 

[Kilau]

 

[coachmcguirk91]

Yup. They are going multi platform just like Xbox..
Doesn't matter if it's day one or a year later. They are going everywhere.

Lol it's over.

The tears will be legendary.

Day and date matters big time. A lot gamers will not wait 2 years for ports. Playstation will still be the only device to play all AAA day 1 games, except Nintendo games

 

[OverHeat]

My PC is ready

 

[PSFore]

Switch 2 and more pc. What it's even the point of playstation outside to be incredibly lower price and it doesn't seem the case looking at the pro. If they think to gain more with psstore everywhere and less hardware centric they are incredibly stupid.

Console gamers buy consoles because they don't want the hassle of dealing with a PC. They will continue to do so even if most games are available on other platforms.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Reads like don

I think you're right but I fucking hate it.

I just want local hardware that I own that plays games I own.

I hate that video games have turned into a strip mine for big companies to give us less while making us pay more.

If I only knew how precious the days were when coming home from the store with a physical game in-hand and a thick manual to pore over.

I hate it too, sadly the way of the world, everything the same way.
We're watching dystopian sci-fi in real time.

 

[onQ123]

Someone had to post it.They started putting their games on PC (and GamePass) day one before Series launched, it doesn't help with hardware sales.

Xbox was on the chopping block before the release of Series consoles.

 

[Mr Moose]

Xbox was on the chopping block before the release of Series consoles.

True. Though you don't think this would affect hardware sales in the future? I know it would for me.

 

[Hookshot]

So what happens to the PS6 and it's accompanying handheld?

 

[LordOcidax]

Nvidia right now…

 

[GHG]

If most of the walled gardens are collapsing, I'd rather give my money to the people making games. Sony, for all my criticism of them, still makes games. If a lot of people are moving to PC and all 3rd party content is bought through digital storefronts, it would be catastrophic to have 1/3rd of the industry funding yachts instead of funding cyclical game development.

Valve doesn't even employ people lol. They have what less than 500 people for all that money? They're a parasite with a good store. Millions of Sony bros would use a PS Store on PC.

You're talking about something that you clearly don't understand and have no experience with.

This idea that Valve just sit there collecting money without doing anything to develop/innovate on their platform is just asinine. Do you think all the Steam APIs, SteamOS and Proton have just come out of thin air?

Also, miss me with the resentful yacht comment. Do you think that all the execs at all the other large and successful gaming companies aren't doing similar things with the money they've earned?

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

A future is rapidly approaching where I ignore modern gaming and just play retro stuff from my backlog until the day I die.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Today, the Sony warriors will shed tears.






Tomorrow, it'll be Nintendo "fans".

 

[Skifi28]

So what happens to the PS6 and it's accompanying handheld?

I don't think anything happens to them. Just some executives that will be puzzled why they're not selling as well as expected. I swear, current Sony leadership can't see further than the next fiscal quarter.

 

[Punished Miku]

So what happens to the PS6 and it's accompanying handheld?

They'll sell you one. All of the above strategy.

You're talking about something that you clearly don't understand and have no experience with.

This idea that Valve just sit there collecting money without doing anything to develop/innovate on their platform is just asinine. Do you think all the Steam APIs, SteamOS and Proton have just come out of thin air?

Also, miss me with the resentful yacht comment. Do you think that all the execs at all the other large and successful gaming companies aren't doing similar things with the money they've earned?

They don't make games. They don't employ people. I'll use Steam for stuff like indies or other titles not available anywhere else, but I'd rather use just about any other store first. GOG is better. MS store goes to people that make games. EPIC makes games, game engines, and gives away tons of free shit. All of this will be irrelevant with prominent windows multi-stores. People can shop anywhere they want and it'll just load into your multi-library.

And like I said, anyone on PS with years of digital purchases will have to PRAY they make a PS Store on PC or else they are stuck on PS Hardware while they transition away from a hardware centric model.

 

[metareferential]

Can't wait for the great platform agnostic future where everything is on PC day one and I brute force every game to its intended glory.

 

[realcool]

And all the while they used the word "incentivize" interchangeably with "disincentivize."

 

[Elios83]

This was stated and explained also during previous fiscal results announcements.

It's not about going multiplatform day and date on all platforms like some people are dreaming about, it's about creating as the main goal a platform where people spend a lot in contents, services and stay engaged in things like live services.
This is where there is a growth and profit opportunity, pushing the hardware installed base as much as they can by absorbing huge losses is not the main goal anymore.
This isn't news, they have increased prices multiple times and they're fine with Japanese sales having slowed down to a minimum because they see things globally and differently.

At this point PS5 hardware sales would have eclipsed PS4 sales instead of being neck to neck if Sony was willing to cut prices and use the old model of pushing hardware sales as the main goal.
And about their multiplatform plans they have been able to expand to PC (it has been 4 years at this point?) and control their console sales curve with high prices while achieving record profits and without damaging their console business.
Unfortunately for the haters the reality is that they know what they're doing and how to do it

 

[LordOcidax]

So what happens to the PS6 and it's accompanying handheld?

Nothing. The same as the next Xbox.

 

[SNG32]

Console gamers buy consoles because they don't want the hassle of dealing with a PC. They will continue to do so even if most games are available on other platforms.

Exactly Sony knows there brand is strong enough to get people to buy consoles but consoles always top out at 100 million sales maybe even less now that it's getting more expensive with chips. They will never reach 100 million in software sales and services just on console they would have to expand to other platforms in order to do this. This sucks for the fanboys who were wishing they would go back to making exclusives stay on the hardware but it's a win to those who have moved to PC and seen the writings on the wall.

With no competition now and third party games being played more that their first party there doing what the fuck they want to do if you like it or not.

 

[Mexen]

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