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i was just poking fun of some people making theories y Caesar doing the "cutting"
this episode finally revealed the real reason and not some fetish
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this episode finally revealed the real reason and not some fetish
RatskyWatsky
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That was just sad overall. I also got the impression from Crassus that he had some sympathy for his son after it was all over, or Pride?
Great episode, and with the next episode being the 5th, I expect this is the turning point for Crixus. I also wonder if Spartacus is going to die or disappear. Either way I expect this should happen by the 9th episode, with the 10th focusing on those trying to escape and the rise of Crassus and Ceasar in the senate.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
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That was a really good episode. The decimation scene was great, especially with the tension between Tiberius and Crassus. I thought that I would not like Ceasar as a spy but, I was wrong.
I am also on team "Fuck Naevia, I hope she dies soon."
I am also on team "Fuck Naevia, I hope she dies soon."
Freezasaurus
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Yeah, dude. Ever since Crixus taught her how to fight, she's been a little too bloodthirsty. I know she a got a raw deal for a while, but come on. Maybe she should have gotten into that fistfight with Gannicus instead of Crixus fighting her battles for her.
I doubt he will die until the middle/end of the last episode. The show is Spartacus after all... maybe they'll have a small roman triumph at the end, but leave that shit for the Caesar spinoff and give us an epic sendoff for Sparty.
captainraincoat
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Well they never did find his body....thats how they might play it
Net_Wrecker
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^^^^ This was the main thing I took away from that episode. Season 1/prequel quality stuff. And I absolutely NEED the Ceasar spinoff.
Miles Quaritch
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The Naevia effect. It'll only get worse the longer she remains alive.
I'm enjoying this season much more than the second one, which i only liked because of The Game Of Rome between Lucretia and Ilithyia, Spartacus camp was pretty meh and ultimately forgettable.
While some characters in Spartacusland still are pretty meh now (Naevia still awful, Nasir sounds like a broken record) Spartacus character has much better and interesting things to work with.
While some characters in Spartacusland still are pretty meh now (Naevia still awful, Nasir sounds like a broken record) Spartacus character has much better and interesting things to work with.
You didn't really have a concept of "homosexuality" and "heterosexuality" in Ancient Greece and Rome. Men having relations with other men, or women, or all at the same time, this was all completely normal. So basically it wouldn't have been a big deal either way.
Great episode and the first one of this season.
Caesar shoots up to the top of my list of awesome characters. He and Gannicus are the best characters in this show. They really are prepping that Caesar spin-off by making him so likable. Need to add that Todd Lasance freaking nailed his acting for Caesar this ep too. He displayed Caesar's arrogance well like previous eps but that emotional scene with Fabia really showed the range he has and adds much more depth to the character.
Also Naevia really is terrible. I hated her so much for killing Ashur and now I hate her so much for just being a bitch. I think the show creators know that which is why they teased us with Caesar looking to kill her but in the end didn't.
Caesar shoots up to the top of my list of awesome characters. He and Gannicus are the best characters in this show. They really are prepping that Caesar spin-off by making him so likable. Need to add that Todd Lasance freaking nailed his acting for Caesar this ep too. He displayed Caesar's arrogance well like previous eps but that emotional scene with Fabia really showed the range he has and adds much more depth to the character.
Also Naevia really is terrible. I hated her so much for killing Ashur and now I hate her so much for just being a bitch. I think the show creators know that which is why they teased us with Caesar looking to kill her but in the end didn't.
Hours Left
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Man, this episode was so brutal, physically and emotionally. I knew the schism had to happen pretty soon, but it was still really hard to watch.
This season has been amazing so far, but I can tell it's just going to keep piling on the despair. Sabinus... you were so secretly hot. ;_;
Please announce the Caesar spin-off now Starz.
This season has been amazing so far, but I can tell it's just going to keep piling on the despair. Sabinus... you were so secretly hot. ;_;
Please announce the Caesar spin-off now Starz.
HarryHengst
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Well, it was a bit more complicated than that. First, you should never be the receiver in a sexual relationship between men, because that makes you the feminine one (see Agron and his boyfriend). And that is bad because Rome was completely obsessed with the concept of manliness. They even went so far as proclaiming that no one is born a man, you had to constantly reaffirm you are one.
Second, a sexual relationship between men of good standing, as both Tiberius and his friend probably were, was frowned upon. You had sex with men of lower class or male slaves, not with equals. This due to the whole one of the two has to be the feminine one.
Sexuality in Rome was a hugely complicated mess and people build entire academic careers on studying it.
Discotheque
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still enjoying this show as usual. fuck naevia though. what has she done to crixus
warming up to caesar. like him a lot now. he'll never be as dope as Rome's ciarin hinds though but this interpretation is cool.
warming up to caesar. like him a lot now. he'll never be as dope as Rome's ciarin hinds though but this interpretation is cool.
Not if you were both married and had children. And the problem, at least in ancient Greece was with outward femininity. As long as you weren't acting like a woman pretty much no one gave a fuck. The Greeks had a derogatory word but it wasn't for homosexuals at large. The word was "κίναιδος" and it literally means "one who moves in a shameful way." It wasn't a sexually liberal viewpoint. It wasn't coming from an enlightened place. Just these concepts of sexuality were given to the West by the Abrahamic religions.
Fight for your city. Provide children for your city. Be moral. Other than that fuck whoever you want.
Monocle
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As much as I think Naevia owns her role, we've reached the point where I can agree she's an annoyance. Every action she takes is blatantly misguided and ends up having horrible consequences for the people who surround her. She's become as nasty and brutish as any ordinary Roman foot soldier, and that's boring.
The gore in this season is sort of distasteful to me, which is strange because I never really had a problem with it before. I feel like the show is trying to top itself with the gross factor.
On a brighter note, Caesar is indeed a badass. This episode redeemed the character for me.
The gore in this season is sort of distasteful to me, which is strange because I never really had a problem with it before. I feel like the show is trying to top itself with the gross factor.
Haha, that surprised me too. I think Sabinus was underused. Shame he had to die in a plot twist you could see coming from miles away. In retrospect his character seems utilitarian, just a plot device to add momentum to Tiberius's story. I expect more subtlety from Spartacus's writers than that.
On a brighter note, Caesar is indeed a badass. This episode redeemed the character for me.
HarryHengst
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Im at work so i have to base myself on Wikipedia now, but the point is more fully made in Craig Williams excellent book about Roman homosexuality:
'Both women and young men were considered normal objects of desire, but outside marriage a man was supposed to act on his desires only with slaves, prostitutes (who were often slaves), and the infames. Gender did not determine whether a sexual partner was acceptable, as long as a man's enjoyment did not encroach on another's man integrity. It was immoral to have sex with another freeborn man's wife, his marriageable daughter, his underage son, or with the man himself; sexual use of another man's slave was subject to the owner's permission'.
Greece may be a different beast, but it would be wrong to consider them the same.
Ya, love her broken English and her filthy German.
Cornballer
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- Huffington Post video interview: Talking Caesar With Todd Lasance For 'Decimation'
- Geek Nation video interview: War of the Damned star, Ellen Hollman (Saxa)
- Geek Nation video interview: War of the Damned star, Ellen Hollman (Saxa)
Cornballer
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No tinfoil hat needed. That's been in the works for a while: Starz Eyes Spartacus Spinoff Centered On Julius Caesar
Nameless
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Loving the season so far. It really is reminding me of Blood and Sand/Gods of the Arena where the line between good guys and bad guys was opaque if present at all. Cesar is steadily climbing the ranks as one of my favorite characters. He used his Roman cunning and experience leading/inspiring men masterfully to sow descent.
And blood thristy Crixus is the best Crixus. He spent too much of last season moping about Neavia then babysitting Naevia. Glad they've managed to reignite his character even though it sets him at odds against Spartacus. But I guess their was always going to end one way.
And blood thristy Crixus is the best Crixus. He spent too much of last season moping about Neavia then babysitting Naevia. Glad they've managed to reignite his character even though it sets him at odds against Spartacus. But I guess their was always going to end one way.
Hours Left
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Yeah, I definitely could of gone for more Sabinus. Even though he didn't last long, I think he did a good job of adding to Tiberius' arc. (Though I would of much rather they switched places.)
Cornballer
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- Sneak peek at this week's episode (yahoo vid, please spoiler tag any discussion)
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- One more sneak peek from this week's episode over on Starz's website (please spoiler tag any discussion)
Lone_Prodigy
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When Nemetes was being strangled by the Roman, couldn't he just plant his feet and push backwards?
His back was against a wall i think.
Also i actually thought for a couple of minutes Naevia killed Gannicus what the fuck.
Crossing my fingers that she ends Naevia. Gannacus + Saxa >>> Crixus + Naevia
Remember the previous episode when she offered the slave girl?
Hours Left
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I don't think I'd say fat, but definitely husky when compared to the others. That may have been intentional though due to his vices.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
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I have friends that drink as much as he does, it's hard not to put weight on when you live like that so my guess is it's intentional. I wouldn't exactly call him fat either, fat is more like the one Roman dude who got his hand chopped off while reaching for the bread.
Too bad because I wanted some Tiberius man on man action. The actor is cute as fuck.
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RatskyWatsky
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Something major is doing down tomorrow omgggg! I bet it has something to do with Crixus and Naevia. :O
Miles Quaritch
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Naevia to die? God I hope so. Please let it happen. Please.
Cornballer
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New episode tonight:
Cornballer
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- Access Hollywood: Spartacus Q&A: Dan Feuerriegel Previews Tonight's Episode *spoilers*
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- IGN's Channel Surfing Podcast: This week with Liam McIntyre
Hope they all die, rebel scum that they are. All hail the Empire.
My problem with this season is shaping up to be similar to last season; they're under selling Spartacus himself, or at the least their own version of the character. At the end of season 1, dude was a juggernaut compared to everyone else. In season two he smacked the Egyptian without much trouble, at least. But this season has been all Crassus, Caesar, Crixus and Naevia taking all the screen time.
*fingers crossed*
RatskyWatsky
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Ugh, I want Gannicus to stay around until the end. But yeah, you're probably right. It's gotta be Crixus, Agron+Nasir, or Gannicus. None of the other characters dying would really provoke such a powerful response from the audience like what Ryan McGee describes.
I'm really excited to see what goes down.
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