Spider-Man: Homecoming |OT| MCU's Sweet 16 - SPOILERS
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gunstarhero
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Its a tiny complaint - but Happy ignoring Peter for MONTHS, then conveniently answering his 1000th call just at the right time - and talking to each other like that never happened ..,had me roll my eyes.
Good movie overall though.
Good movie overall though.
CaviarMeths
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I know this is a baby movie but check out how I failed to understand basic things like the protagonist's personality.
This was bland and uninteresting, with characters barely I care about and action scenes that are as forgettable as the soundtrack. So another Mahvel movie. I guess the MCU fans will really hype whatever is released. Maybe having an allegedly quippy (although absolutely never actually funny) Underoos is good enough for them.
Tobey Maguire stays winning
Tobey Maguire stays winning
Hazelhurst
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I would never think that as Peter is just a kid. Also, he's not going to be pre-emptive and start killing people before they have a chance to attack. That's not his character.
SuperStiltzkin
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This is the embodiment of everything wrong with current internet film criticism.
Peter doesnt want to crush his head, hes not a killer. If you mean beat him in a fight, Peter couldve. But then what? What happens when Toombs/Vulture tells the cops and Villians Spideys identity? Hell be a target, aunt may would be a target. Their lifestyle would change. Etc. Theres a lot to think about, and all this was going thru his mind. If Vulture gets away, whats stopping him from going after May? Or sending his goons? Or whatever else.
Why would a 15 year old be afraid of the father of a girl he likes when this father happens to be someone he's fighting behind a mask....
Who then figures out who he is and threatens to kill him and his Aunt
Twig and Berries
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This was bland and uninteresting, with characters barely I care about and action scenes that are as forgettable as the soundtrack. So another Mahvel movie. I guess the MCU fans will really hype whatever is released. Maybe having an allegedly quippy (although absolutely never actually funny) Underoos is good enough for them.
Tobey Maguire stays winning
Is the condescension really necessary?
Yeah. Reminds me of movie Chronicles and how some ppl would instantly turn evil fucks, killing "lesser people" if given superhuman powers.
He's a kid and not someone on a power-hungry trip not giving a fuck anymore. Would have been totally out of character for Peter.
What Truant wrote Would maxbd have been more believable with Garfield.
Now now, it's our own fault for overhyping the movie.
Lifejumper
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Its his thing. He does it with Star Wars too.
This was bland and uninteresting, with characters barely I care about and action scenes that are as forgettable as the soundtrack. So another Mahvel movie. I guess the MCU fans will really hype whatever is released. Maybe having an allegedly quippy (although absolutely never actually funny) Underoos is good enough for them.
Tobey Maguire stays winning
Oy vey.
Big Green Anus
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This was bland and uninteresting, with characters barely I care about and action scenes that are as forgettable as the soundtrack. So another Mahvel movie. I guess the MCU fans will really hype whatever is released. Maybe having an allegedly quippy (although absolutely never actually funny) Underoos is good enough for them.
Tobey Maguire stays winning
Spider Man 3 is so underrated and has already aged better than a lot of recent Super Heroes movies.
Mr. PlayStation
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This was bland and uninteresting, with characters barely I care about and action scenes that are as forgettable as the soundtrack. So another Mahvel movie. I guess the MCU fans will really hype whatever is released. Maybe having an allegedly quippy (although absolutely never actually funny) Underoos is good enough for them.
Tobey Maguire stays winning
Ditto!
lol, are you serious or are you acting dull?
I see, thanks for the information. Another one for the ignorelist, then.
Laplasakos
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Jesus fucking christ
Da-Kid
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I still have a theory that Michelle is Mary Jane we all know, and that her mother moved themselves away from her abusive father changing their names in the process so he can't find them.
"My friends call me MJ"
"I thought you didn't have friends"
But due to that, she pretty much became antisocial.
Little does she know her father recognized her on the news.
Just a thought.
"My friends call me MJ"
"I thought you didn't have friends"
But due to that, she pretty much became antisocial.
Little does she know her father recognized her on the news.
Just a thought.
Linkstrikesback
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When your starting position is absolute turd, it's technically easier to age better than a lot of things, yes.
That still leaves you at absolute turd though.
Laplasakos
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It's a solid film. I have seen it more than 5 times already and i never got bored. I don't know if it's the chemistry between Emma Stone and Garfield but their relationship on the film is something you can't find in other superhero movies. The whole build up of the movie to the end and crucial scene
Gwen's death
yawnThis was bland and uninteresting, with characters barely I care about and action scenes that are as forgettable as the soundtrack. So another Mahvel movie. I guess the MCU fans will really hype whatever is released. Maybe having an allegedly quippy (although absolutely never actually funny) Underoos is good enough for them.
Tobey Maguire stays winning
Glass Rebel
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This was bland and uninteresting, with characters barely I care about and action scenes that are as forgettable as the soundtrack. So another Mahvel movie. I guess the MCU fans will really hype whatever is released. Maybe having an allegedly quippy (although absolutely never actually funny) Underoos is good enough for them.
Tobey Maguire stays winning
Lots of talk about MCU fans, not much about the movie at all.
Weirdos stay losing.
After a few days have past I have to agree. It doesnt know what it wants to be. It feels like a Disney version of SM, but has weird dick jokes, porn references, and fake f bombs...i dont get who the audience is. The set pieces are some of the weakest for a marvel film.
Agree with everything, but I prefer Garfield. Tobys teary eyed face is just bad. I like his trilogy but didnt care for him as SM. Garfield is a great actor and had plenty of quips to be SM.Tobey Maguire stays winning
I think the first ASM with the lizard may be my fav of them all.
demosthenes
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Just trolling now. Or trolling the troller. I don't know which.
Bobo Dakes
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I just haven't been clicking with MCU lately. Last movie I liked was Civil War.
Dr. Strange was okay.
Guardians 2 was a bad movie.
Homecoming ... had it's moments, but I am baffled at everyone that said THIS was the Spider-Man they were waiting for.
My biggest problem was just how EVERYONE was comic relief, some of it worked, but it was so overbearing everyone sort of stepped on themselves with it. "When I say penis you say Parker. Penis!" I felt like the humor was an attempt to make up for actual character development, what do I know about Ned or MJ? Why did she flick him off at homecoming, oh right, that's funny for some reason? Some of it worked, A LOT of it didn't.
Peter/Spider-Man got on my nerves because it seemed like he took several steps back as a character since Civil War. No, I'm doing this because it's the right thing to do, no with great power comes ..., his motivation "I want to be an Avenger, fuck school, friends, family, gotta impress Tony Stark. And holy shit did he create a lot of his own problems. When he actually left his team in DC and said "well, I can make it back before the competition" I actually said "fuck you". Doing the right thing because he could as Spider-Man negatively affected his personal life, but I never felt that between a rock and hard place situation with him, until the end, most of the time he ran off, he really didn't need to and almost got himself killed each time. I just wasn't in the mood to watch the third Spider-Man incarnation take 2 hours to learn the lesson the others got in the first 30 minutes of their movie. Also, did he HAVE to take Flash Thompson's dad's car, I actually felt bad for him there. Even if he was an asshole, that's not him getting his comeuppance, that's just screwing over his dad and costing him money in repairs, but sure, Spider-Man driving a car, gotta love advertising that doesn't step on the movie.
The AI suit, just another excuse for more jokes. By the time he was trapped in that warehouse just bantering with it, I was legit wondering what movie I was watching. Were they serious with that interrogation mode? At that scene ended on a good note.
My favorite scenes were when the movie sat down and had genuine human moments. Loved the student news team, that was a nice background joke. I liked when he asked Aunt May to teach him how to dance. I loved the third act reveal. Donald Glover wwas fun to watch because he was like the only normal person in the movie not trying to be funny, just a dude trying to buy a gun reacting to all the craziness around him. Most relatable moment was Happy expressing how hard it was for him to ask Stark for a raise.
And the best scene in the movie by far is that third act twist. It's funny, it's uncomfortable, it made me anxious just by playing out naturally, no one is yuking it up.
Outside of the boat scene, I didn't care for any of the action. Spider-Man 2 remains the GOAT.
So ... Gwenyth Paltrow isn't around for several movies, but Spider-Man: Homecoming was the one they got her back for? That really confused me.
I really want to like Thor and Black Panther.
Dr. Strange was okay.
Guardians 2 was a bad movie.
Homecoming ... had it's moments, but I am baffled at everyone that said THIS was the Spider-Man they were waiting for.
My biggest problem was just how EVERYONE was comic relief, some of it worked, but it was so overbearing everyone sort of stepped on themselves with it. "When I say penis you say Parker. Penis!" I felt like the humor was an attempt to make up for actual character development, what do I know about Ned or MJ? Why did she flick him off at homecoming, oh right, that's funny for some reason? Some of it worked, A LOT of it didn't.
Peter/Spider-Man got on my nerves because it seemed like he took several steps back as a character since Civil War. No, I'm doing this because it's the right thing to do, no with great power comes ..., his motivation "I want to be an Avenger, fuck school, friends, family, gotta impress Tony Stark. And holy shit did he create a lot of his own problems. When he actually left his team in DC and said "well, I can make it back before the competition" I actually said "fuck you". Doing the right thing because he could as Spider-Man negatively affected his personal life, but I never felt that between a rock and hard place situation with him, until the end, most of the time he ran off, he really didn't need to and almost got himself killed each time. I just wasn't in the mood to watch the third Spider-Man incarnation take 2 hours to learn the lesson the others got in the first 30 minutes of their movie. Also, did he HAVE to take Flash Thompson's dad's car, I actually felt bad for him there. Even if he was an asshole, that's not him getting his comeuppance, that's just screwing over his dad and costing him money in repairs, but sure, Spider-Man driving a car, gotta love advertising that doesn't step on the movie.
The AI suit, just another excuse for more jokes. By the time he was trapped in that warehouse just bantering with it, I was legit wondering what movie I was watching. Were they serious with that interrogation mode? At that scene ended on a good note.
My favorite scenes were when the movie sat down and had genuine human moments. Loved the student news team, that was a nice background joke. I liked when he asked Aunt May to teach him how to dance. I loved the third act reveal. Donald Glover wwas fun to watch because he was like the only normal person in the movie not trying to be funny, just a dude trying to buy a gun reacting to all the craziness around him. Most relatable moment was Happy expressing how hard it was for him to ask Stark for a raise.
And the best scene in the movie by far is that third act twist. It's funny, it's uncomfortable, it made me anxious just by playing out naturally, no one is yuking it up.
Outside of the boat scene, I didn't care for any of the action. Spider-Man 2 remains the GOAT.
So ... Gwenyth Paltrow isn't around for several movies, but Spider-Man: Homecoming was the one they got her back for? That really confused me.
I really want to like Thor and Black Panther.
Bobo Dakes
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That's your biggest takeway from that post about Spider-Man Homecoming. I don't think Spider-Man is a bad movie, but if it wasn't for that third act twist, I would've been a lot more negative on it. It was okay.
Strange was okay in the sense that I liked it more than I didn't. I liked the opening scene. I liked Rachel McAdams. But that was another one where humor just kept getting in the way (fuck that annoying ass cape). It was hard to buy Strange's progress, felt quick even though a lot of time had passed.
As for Guardians 2 (Guardians 1 is top 5 MCU for me) I found the characters to be unbearable and that's all it had because there wasn't much of a plot. Just sit on this planet and wait for the shoe to drop that *gasp * that one dude is evil (SOMETHING THEY TOLD US AT THE END OF THE FIRST MOVIE). Hey Mantis, feel free to say something that'll speed this whole thing up. It was just loud and obnoxious (with a bunch of cheap sex jokes that made me wonder who the audience for this was) and the emotional ending felt so undeserved, "we're just assholes to each other because we care". Also give it up for everyone's favorite scene-stealing, mass murdering, child-trafficker Yondu.
I liked the opening credits, I liked the Zune jokes and I did laugh at Peter when they called him out for liking Gamora. And Nebula is chill. That's literally it. I didn't put, but half way through I realized if I had walked out, I would've never wondered how it ended.
Fans of Spider-Man.
DriftingSpirit
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That was one of my favorite parts of the movie.
markofhavoc
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Man, I watched it and had a blast. Thought it was great and they established the characters very well, and I didnt see the dad twist coming at all. Reading some of these comments makes me think people are unable to just enjoy a movie and are always looking for crazy nitpicks
-Pyromaniac-
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People still discussing this eh. I guess I'll drop my opinion from when I saw this a couple weeks ago.
Ignoring Spider 1 and 2 completely because Sam Raimi was on some next level shit there that I know won't be replicated any time soon (and it doesn't need to be).
This movie had that great small-town charm. They nailed the high school vibes I feel. The humour was spot on, Flash being this wannabe douchebag who is clearly jealous of Peter in every way made me chuckle every time. Holland is a great Peter Parker....I'd like to see the next movie maybe step into more dramatic territory instead of the complete light heartedness that this movie was. Similar to Spiderman 2 which hit me in the feels over and over again, and it was all very earned. I hope to see something like that from the writers and holland in the eventual sequel.
Not sure what to make of MJ vs Liz. Was Liz supposed to be just a character for this movie that comes and goes? That's how I read it, while they slowly planted the seeds of Michelle becoming more involved. Either way no real complaints there, dug em both.
Good stuff. They didn't try to make a "BIG MOVIE" and kept it all close to the ground which makes sense for young Spiderman. I dug it. Don't know how anyone can say the movie was less than fun.
Ignoring Spider 1 and 2 completely because Sam Raimi was on some next level shit there that I know won't be replicated any time soon (and it doesn't need to be).
This movie had that great small-town charm. They nailed the high school vibes I feel. The humour was spot on, Flash being this wannabe douchebag who is clearly jealous of Peter in every way made me chuckle every time. Holland is a great Peter Parker....I'd like to see the next movie maybe step into more dramatic territory instead of the complete light heartedness that this movie was. Similar to Spiderman 2 which hit me in the feels over and over again, and it was all very earned. I hope to see something like that from the writers and holland in the eventual sequel.
Not sure what to make of MJ vs Liz. Was Liz supposed to be just a character for this movie that comes and goes? That's how I read it, while they slowly planted the seeds of Michelle becoming more involved. Either way no real complaints there, dug em both.
Good stuff. They didn't try to make a "BIG MOVIE" and kept it all close to the ground which makes sense for young Spiderman. I dug it. Don't know how anyone can say the movie was less than fun.
Bobo Dakes
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We'll save this for next time you don't like a movie.
Pai Pai Master
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I always laugh when "review" posts are more about shitting on other people's tastes than actual critique.
MetalliCabombination
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Watched it, worst one tbh.
NeoGAF needs ignore filters for words like overrated/overhyped
Disagreed, the movie has one good portion of it and that's the Gwen/Peter relationship, otherwise issa mess and this is coming from someone who liked TASM. The movie suffers from a worse version of the issues that plagued TASM, which is the fact Sony kept trying to world build without making sure their actual movie was good too, two not good villains with a third joke villain who wasn't good in the slightest, the pacing was not good, it's the only Spider-Man movie I will say is anything close to bad.
What are you even saying
Comparing the other Spider-Man movies, I hate saying stuff like this but I feel like the Raimi movies have already aged kinda poorly. I feel that way about a lot of Blockbusters from around the time when the Matrix came out to about halfway through the 2000s, there's just this weird corny-but-self-seriousness to everything in a way that doesn't really exist now. None of them are bad movies, and the first two in particular are still fun romps, but I don't think they hold up that well.
TASM remains my favorite incarnation of the character on screen, and I still think the first movie is great, with a good dynamic between Peter/Gwen Stacey and a compelling villain. The second movie was kind of a mess with it trying to juggle more than should have been in one movie but I still like it on some level, mainly by it maintaining the casting, design, and aesthetic sensibilities of the first movie.
Homecoming could have potentially been my new favorite since it was a really solid movie all around, but I don't really like the idea of Spider-Man as "Iron Man Jr.," which carries over into things like how his suit is designed.
TASM remains my favorite incarnation of the character on screen, and I still think the first movie is great, with a good dynamic between Peter/Gwen Stacey and a compelling villain. The second movie was kind of a mess with it trying to juggle more than should have been in one movie but I still like it on some level, mainly by it maintaining the casting, design, and aesthetic sensibilities of the first movie.
Homecoming could have potentially been my new favorite since it was a really solid movie all around, but I don't really like the idea of Spider-Man as "Iron Man Jr.," which carries over into things like how his suit is designed.
markofhavoc
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I'm not talking about just not liking a movie, I'm talking about people who are reading into the way a character was played out vs. How the comic played it. I think you don't need a carbon copy of the comics to enjoy the movie
Bobo Dakes
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I also thought Power Rangers did a better job of portraying high schoolers, while Homecoming gets points for actually casting people that looked like they were in high school, I feel like Power Rangers developed everyone much better, showed them bonding, made them funny when it was necessary.
But that wasn't a critical or commercial success so I guess we'll just forget about it. But I will maintain that was the second best superhero movie released so far this year.
But that wasn't a critical or commercial success so I guess we'll just forget about it. But I will maintain that was the second best superhero movie released so far this year.
Pai Pai Master
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To be fair, Power Rangers is specifically about a group of high schoolers bonding whereas the kids in Homecoming are side characters. And it does benefit greatly from having a solid focus on that. They did a good job.
With Homecoming, there definitely could have been more meat there but it would have come at the cost of the brisk pace and villain. Particularly Flash and Ned, as likeable as the latter is, could have used some development. Hopeful for the sequel fleshing out more of the cast.
Scully Scully Scoo
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im gona watch this shit again, cant say im not giving it a fair chance because i rarely re-watch films nowadays.
Why? If you have this attitude going into it, why even watch it again?