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Splatoon 2 |OT2| From Smallfry to FlyFish in 5 Easy Steps!
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HackTheSlash
Member
Lol i have this problem too. I start to get on a good roll and then its like the 'Splat Gods' must teach me humility.
Getting that high with any weapon seems like a total gamble if you aren't constantly playing with friends in league mode. I've gotten close with the Tri-Slosher, but I really feel like you might as well just flip a coin and use that to determine if you win or lose a match sometimes.
waterproofjesus
Member
I swear the team that just K/O'd me in Splat Zones was one of the most brutal and surgically effective group of goddamn players I've ever seen. It was a slasher, a tentatek, and I think a splatterscole and a rapid Blaster.
I mean DAMN. We never stood a chance. Just totally SHUT DOWN any and all routes to the damn zone and calmly defending all of them.
Color me impressed/depressed!
I mean DAMN. We never stood a chance. Just totally SHUT DOWN any and all routes to the damn zone and calmly defending all of them.
Color me impressed/depressed!
bumpkin
Member
Players like myself who suck and are wildly inconsistent would prefer it stays that way.
Psyrgery ES
Member
Got a Switch with a physical copy of Splatoon2 for my Birthday and I've been playing for a couple of days.
Seriously, in every freakin Salmon Run match I've played one of the players has disconnected, is this intentional or does Nintendo need to get their shit together?
Just stopped playing because it's so frustrating
Seriously, in every freakin Salmon Run match I've played one of the players has disconnected, is this intentional or does Nintendo need to get their shit together?
Just stopped playing because it's so frustrating
wild wild rice
Member
Thanks! I thought that's how it worked. Just wanted to be sure so I don't let my squad down.
waterproofjesus
Member
I don't think it's necessarily easier, I feel like maybe it just has much wilder swings in either direction because of that enclosed area. You either use that area as a last stand/defensive position or you get overwhelmed and suddenly notice that ALL the bosses are inside that tiny space.
It's less balanced, but in a good way. It can either be really smooth sailing or a goddamn massacre.
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Kill count has pretty much doubled after going from aero to nzap
RecRoulette
Member
Oh I didn't know league raised that too. I saw people at like Superfresh 30 and thought they were Turf War gods.
wild wild rice
Member
Yeah nzap is probably my overall strongest weapon.
What non-machine gun style weapons are working best for people? Meaning slosher, brush, charger etc.
I can only seem to do well with a splattershot, nzap, etc type weapon. Otherwise I'm getting sub1000 every damn time.
I'd love to get good with a brush or bucket. Sniper rifle seems hopeless for me, can't hit shit.
Oddly enough I felt like weird weapons were more viable in 1. Or maybe I was just better then.
Tacorona72
Member
Lol lost a wave because I ran out of ink. Feels bad...
Magnet_Man
Member
Why is it always Rainmaker Academy when I'm trying to play lately?
As far as I'm aware, turf war is the only mode that keeps track of weapon freshness for those bonuses. I could be wrong but I doubt it, since a few of my weapons would be much higher than they are right now due to fighting low level players early on.
I've shared my thoughts about it a few times now, but Clash strikes me as a fun but pretty challenging-to-make-effective weapon, particularly in turf war where there's no solid objective to engage around. Bombs and the rapid-fire AoE bursts can zone out short range weapons decently, but its somewhat low TTK and poor inking make it a struggle for it to get in since you can't easily challenge for turf and maneuverability, and Stingray being on it is a little weird as a weapon that otherwise thrives around the front lines. Ultimately I'd term it as usable, but not necessarily good.
In other words, why not just use a Tentatek?
Thanks to the wonders of playing with Randoms I finally got a weapon up to 16.5 and my first Superfresh in turf. Unfortunately...it was with the original Splattershot, which technically isn't even supposed to be one of my main or best weapons. But I liked it in the original game and I suppose I still like it here. Burst bombs are great for wall coverage.
The score in points isn't always a good metric to know how well you played, I'd say.
I used to be good with a carbon roller in S1, but I struggled a bit with the splat roller in S2 (I probably should have went carbon, but I really love curling bombs... and I feel like the new flick mechanic for rollers change things a lot)
I'm currently playing dualies. The problem is that, while I think I have decent situation awareness and basic understanding in strategy, I'm awful at 1 vs 1 :/
Maybe I should just go with the tri slosher.
HackTheSlash
Member
Flingza is mostly poop right now.
The 2 most usable rollers right now in my opinion is the splat/hero and the carbon.
I actually don't know for sure, I'm just assuming because I've seen those people with Superfresh 30.0 or whatever and I can't imagine anyone being good enough to carry a whole team of three people (or less) through Turf War.
I mean, sometimes I feel like I play great and get tons of kills and points but it's not enough, so I can't imagine how godlike someone would have to play to make up for all of the disconnects and just generally terrible teammates that they'll inevitably get paired with.
You don't need to win all matches, if I'm not mistaken, "only" at least 2 out of 3. That still require some skill...
Also, remember that if your connection is reliable, you'll have more 4 vs 3 than 3 vs 4
Magnet_Man
Member
Splashdown still doesn't work on Flyfish...
What a stupidly designed enemy.
What a stupidly designed enemy.
Also, remember that if your connection is reliable, you'll have more 4 vs 3 than 3 vs 4
I call bullshit on that. I can count the number of disconnects I've had in this game on one hand and I've seen way more 3v4 than 4v3 matches.
HackTheSlash
Member
Yeah, i have to agree with you. Ive only ever been DC'd once, ever. From a T-storm that flickered my power. And ive seen basically the same.
Tacorona72
Member
Sloshing Machine is legit.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
I had a few DC nothing to write home about. But I swear one time in a game was fighting this team all G&K. Anyway was besting them badly and just as the game ends as we winning it DC and win didn't count and no points. Convinced they rage quit and was host or something.
Then did another game and they didn't pop up in queue for sometime. I will take a rage quit as win however
Also faced then plenty times after and when losing they will try spawn killing and sometimes I see them at the start before it begins and they disappear when rematching leaving teammates with less players.
Then did another game and they didn't pop up in queue for sometime. I will take a rage quit as win however
Also faced then plenty times after and when losing they will try spawn killing and sometimes I see them at the start before it begins and they disappear when rematching leaving teammates with less players.
Yeah, it's pretty great if you can manage to get 2HKOs every time.
Special sucks though. Sting Ray makes sense on backline weapons like chargers and the Heavy Splatling, but this? No way.
Tacorona72
Member
Agreed. This and the Clash Blaster having Sting Ray as their special makes no sense at all.
Right now, the best tip would be to not use the Flingza Roller. I wish I was kidding because conceptually I love the weapon, but for the way rollers in general currently work in this game, what you wind up doing with that kit is assembling all the downsides of the game's other rollers into one conveniently-underwhelming package.
It inks pretty well with vertical slices, but the lead-in time for them is so long that you have to be fairly safe in when to use them, because most rapid-fire weapons can easily close the distance to you in between swings if you're not careful. The horizontal flick is faster, but seems to work similarly to the carbon in that its actual range in which a one-flick-kill actually works is so small, wonky, and inconsistent that you can't count on it for CQC very reliably. The vertical swing's hitbox is more consistent, but the one-hit kill range on it is not very long, and beyond that it only deals 40 damage, meaning you'd need three swings in order to secure a splat that way, and that's simply too much time. It comes with wall as a special which is nice conceptually but takes about eight years to fully set up and again, you ink ahead so slowly that you can't reliably push forward beyond the wall at all without help. Then you get splat bomb launcher which is nice for coverage and actually can push, but building up the points to unlock it multiple times without dying is a tall order for the weapon. Everything about it is just slow and not very reactionary, so despite the defensive-minded kit, it deals with speedy pressure really badly.
If you really want to use a roller, then the original Splat Roller is the least broken out of all of them, and is generally quicker and has more options than the Flingza. It could be good if Nintendo ever decides to give rollers their old flicking properties back, but as it stands there's extremely little benefit to be had out of trying to make it work.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
You trade efficiency for satisfaction with a roller. The feel when you roll over an enemy team is sublime lol
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Yep. I forgot the name of the one I usually use. But some are too slow and don't even kill on impact so not those of course. Need ninja ability in shirt, speed is also good and always flank the opponent. When it happens and you know they are watching you waiting to spawn you stop and look up slowly.Ah but even then, I'm pretty sure the normal splat rollers have a faster roll-speed than the Flingza, so there's still no reason to use it.
They might be people who got lucky and got carried through the ranks.
Then the ranking system is broken
And I just lost a match where I died trying to kill the squid with the RM and my other three teammates altough alive were apparently too distracted, all in different parts of the map, so the RM got in through one of the corridors on Port Makarel completely unopposed.
He moved from right center to the goal and shot at me 2 or 3 times so they definitely had time to react too, it's just that they are awfully bad.
wild wild rice
Member
Just finished the SP. I thought it was a pretty excellent finale.
That last boss was giving me
vibes.
That last boss was giving me
ARMS
Salmon Run players, please learn basic housekeeping. Be a good citizen and ink the floor between trips because most of the losses are due to being completely boxed in and killed by steel eels or stingers. Don't just step around the flyfish and drizzler mess.
Also, learn how to kill grillers.
I just lost all my progress due to a string of 1st round losses.
Also, learn how to kill grillers.
I just lost all my progress due to a string of 1st round losses.
Merchandise
Member
I always lose on Griller rounds because I fundamentally do not understand how I should orient myself when I'm the target in such a way that doesn't kill my teammates. (Also of course because no one else seems to know either.) Oh well.
I had a game where there was a griller round in Wave 1 and I ended with 2 grillers on me, so I used the behind the back method to avoid them and the rest of my team did... nothing. Other than die a couple times. They didn't kill the grillers. I ended up avoiding the grillers for 40 seconds until we lost because my incompetent team never fucking did anything.
Personally, my favorite strategy so far for Grillers on Lost Outpost when you're the target is to hang out on the small raised platform just on the inside of the "front door" of the building (the door that leads out toward the grated area). When the griller that's on you turns to move up that ramp, you just head up and out the little window there and the griller will turn and start to pursue you out the front door. When he comes out front, just swim up the wall and through that same window again. The rest of your team can stay pretty safe inside of the rest of the building and get plenty of easy potshots as it's turning around, and that way all the eggs stay inside for quick delivery without risking a good 60-70% of your movement space. This might actually be my favorite map for dealing with griller waves of the three we have so far because the normal griller cheese-spot doesn't have to involve risking the best locations for non-target teammates to be.
waterproofjesus
Member
This. Doorman speaks the truth. You have only to listen.
Neon.Borealis
Neo Member
After many rounds played I can say that the Sloshing machine is awesome. It's everything I wanted in a blaster... except it's not a blaster. It actually has some range and can threaten people behind walls.
This, the Brella and the Splatterscope are quickly turning into my mains. With the E-Liter, the Jet squelcher and the .52 close behind.
It's kinda sad that I don't seem to enjoy the Splatlings that much. They are too cumbersome to use for me. I still haven't unlocked the mini Splatling though, so that might change my opinion.
This, the Brella and the Splatterscope are quickly turning into my mains. With the E-Liter, the Jet squelcher and the .52 close behind.
It's kinda sad that I don't seem to enjoy the Splatlings that much. They are too cumbersome to use for me. I still haven't unlocked the mini Splatling though, so that might change my opinion.
Actually, it was my feeling, too, but since it was counter-intuitive, I've did my checks... 4 vs 3 is really a bit more common, but half of the time, you won't notice when you have a numerical advantage. It's easier to spot that one of your teammates is missing than one of your opponents. Especially when they're good.
(I'm talking about disconnections in the middle of a match, right at the start, I've seen one 3 vs 4 and one 4 vs 3, there's not enough of them to conclude anything)
For some reason I have never managed to superfresh the N-zap despite it being the weapon I have the most wins with. With the jr. and aero I got it easy and I don't even have half as many wins on them.