The show is pretty quality. I was surprised by how well paced it is and the amount of pretty decent (and decently shot mind you) action that happens on screen.
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Splinter Cell: Blacklist |OT| Warning: May Contain Trace Amounts Of Stealth
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Starting to regret not getting the edition with the watch. It was only $5aud more than the standard edition and came with two maps (1x co-op only and 1x sp/co-op) instead of the co-op only map that is in the standard edition. That extra map would've been worth the $5. It was the Millionaires Yacht.
How is the Millionaires Yacht map for those that have played it?
How is the Millionaires Yacht map for those that have played it?
The_Macho_King
Banned
Just finished downloading the Wii U version. Def. hyped to play this. Sick of all the cutesy releases. Thanks Ubi.
The_batman and I were playing on PS3 earlier. Feel free to add me; I'm up for any of the multiplayer modes - especially Classic.
PSN: hao-chi
American Consumption: Ghosting the
what is the idea? I can take one dude out and it counts as a Panther. WTF? Because they see me as I'm sliding down from the area or something?
Also the last area is there anyway to do it without knocking out tons of guards? It seems like you have to
but then you have like 1-3 others around them that kinda screw that up and add in the context of disarming freaking out and throwing you over a railing it gets mad annoying with that time limit.
I missed mastering it by like 2000 points because of this. Which pisses me off because I'm sure if I could ghost those areas I'd have it in the bag easy.
Hostages
Also the last area is there anyway to do it without knocking out tons of guards? It seems like you have to
knock out the armored dudes to disarm the objectives
and leaving the two near the manual override seems like you can't do that from what I'm reading since they stop Sam from turning the valve even if he gets there undetected by them? WTF?
I missed mastering it by like 2000 points because of this. Which pisses me off because I'm sure if I could ghost those areas I'd have it in the bag easy.
Jaded Alyx
Member
In that first area you mention, I used knocked out one and used sleeping gas on the other two.
I don't think I knocked out anybody in the last section. Used a couple sticky noisemakers though. The vent/tunnel that connects the two areas came in handy.
There's a tunnel for the last area?
I turned the lights off in the first one and I had like six people in there to move around. I quickly got to the area where I need to drop, took the one enemy nearby out silently and dropped. But apparently the game counts that aggressive movement as a Panther action?
I turned the lights off in the first one and I had like six people in there to move around. I quickly got to the area where I need to drop, took the one enemy nearby out silently and dropped. But apparently the game counts that aggressive movement as a Panther action?
Jaded Alyx
Member
It's Panther if the guards are suspicious/alerted I think. Maybe the lights going out is what did it?
Yup, found that out the hard way when trying to Ghost.
doniewhalberg
Member
Pretty sure it's just a case of some intense timing. This is the bit with the
ten min timer to do the objectives right?
I was playing a game of Classic SvM tonight and some rather unkind merc had the spy spawns almost perfectly figured out: 3 times I spawned on top of a mine. Several other times my teammate and I spawned directly in his line of sight.
We lost 67% to 94% on the first terminal in Silo. I raged. Other than that instance, I've really been loving SvM, however I wish they had a safe zone spawn for spies as in previous iterations.
We lost 67% to 94% on the first terminal in Silo. I raged. Other than that instance, I've really been loving SvM, however I wish they had a safe zone spawn for spies as in previous iterations.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Ruined one of my favourite franchises. The guy who plays Sam is just meh, they even turned the character model into some shaved headed space marine type, looks a lot like Shepard.
They should have just subtitled this game as a spinoff and killed off sam fisher, the story was bad, the characters were bad, the stealth was bad.
A lot of the fun of Splinter Cell for me were the big open maps, the levels in this game were so closed off if you sprinted towards the next checkpoint you could bypass a lot of the enemies even if you were in an alert phase.
Rather than a Stealth that you could play as an action game it is an action game that you can stealth a bit.
The only levels I enjoyed were Grimms as they harked back to the old splinter cell games.
They should have just subtitled this game as a spinoff and killed off sam fisher, the story was bad, the characters were bad, the stealth was bad.
The last mission annoyed the hell out of me, it is supposed to be some super secure bunker that ensures the continuation of the government and it has vents big enough for people to crawl through with conveniently timed/moving lasers???
A lot of the fun of Splinter Cell for me were the big open maps, the levels in this game were so closed off if you sprinted towards the next checkpoint you could bypass a lot of the enemies even if you were in an alert phase.
Rather than a Stealth that you could play as an action game it is an action game that you can stealth a bit.
The only levels I enjoyed were Grimms as they harked back to the old splinter cell games.
Fuck that. In the original SvM on Pandora Tomorrow the Spies spawned in an area inaccessible to Mercs so spawn camping was not possible. I believe there was also two ways out which were also not Merc friendly, such as a vent or shaft.
NearRivers
Member
All throughout the single player in the PS3 version, character voices completely drop out in cutscenes. At least I had the subtitles on, otherwise I would be missing out on huge chunks of plot. Perhaps this isn't a widespread issue, but it's very disappointing to see a game I'm enjoying release in this state.
After Conviction, I didn't expect anything from this game, but was pleasantly surprised. I play on perfectionist difficulty, so the stealth is pretty hardcore, feels like a Splinter Cell game.
I try to play ghost style, but panther and assault can give much room for improvisation. It's extremely satisfying to get out of bad situation using whatever you have at hand instead just pressing restart button.
Too bad Ironside is replaced, Sam's charm is gone
I didn't realize the main character was Sam until the game explicitly stated that.
I try to play ghost style, but panther and assault can give much room for improvisation. It's extremely satisfying to get out of bad situation using whatever you have at hand instead just pressing restart button.
Too bad Ironside is replaced, Sam's charm is gone
I didn't realize the main character was Sam until the game explicitly stated that.That's just plain embarrassing, the older games had this already figured out.
vasametropolis
Member
Apart from your grievances with Sam and the story, I am beginning to wonder if we played the same game... because you can't exactly run past anyone on higher difficulties when alerted. It's practically insta-death. The stealth is completely competent and the levels have plenty of routes. The missions are more like SC1 and SC2 in their linearity and checkpoints as opposed to Chaos Theory, but it's not like Chaos Theory was the only good game in the series. As for your spoiler tagged section... I personally can't even acknowledge that as a valid complaint. It's a video game.
NearRivers
Member
Just had my game freeze up during the LNG Terminal mission. The cutscene started stuttering and then it froze while saving. Despite being able to re load the game, the data is now corrupted, meaning a black error message (80029207) appears on screen everytime the game autosaves. Come on, Splinter Cell, besides the voices dropping out in cutscenes you were doing so well until now :/
Spent a couple more hours on this game last night (PC). Looks great, sounds great, effects are great. Story missions seem like random Tom Clancy crap, but the action is solid so far.
Tried one of the side missions, and it is wave-based survival nonsense. Playing it with no kills is incredibly tedious. So glad these are optional.
Also noticed a weird design choice: you get to keep the challenge rewards even when you quit out of a mission.
Tried one of the side missions, and it is wave-based survival nonsense. Playing it with no kills is incredibly tedious. So glad these are optional.
Also noticed a weird design choice: you get to keep the challenge rewards even when you quit out of a mission.
Ladies and Gentlemen, how not to spoiler tag.
Just say "Had the game freeze during the 7th mission" after all, you didn't mention any detail specifics and no one here knows if it is the first mission of last since we have to click to find out. (I don't know if it's the 7th, it's a guess).
=)
Yeah dogs are a pain in the ass.
I kill/knock them out first thing, as soon as i see one.
Also Grim is definitely scanned, since she has a face closer to the voice actress, than Conviction:
NearRivers
Member
Considering it's a bug most people will want to avoid it's probably better if I don't spoiler tag it at all. That particular mission title/location doesn't give away much.
Side missions aren't all like that, Grim missions are the most classic Splinter Cell levels in the game. There's only three of them though, which kinda sucks.
I hate killing the dogs. The sound they make when you shock them.
Most dog throat kicks ever in a video game.
doniewhalberg
Member
Uhhh, c'mon, the kobin missions are pretty good too. I think Grim and Kobin added up, it's fair to say the side missions are pretty good in terms of content and quality, on the side of themain campaign. Haven't tried Charlie's yet and Briggs, you have to have a partner right?
Well, if he'd said 7th I would have to have went and counted them, I have no idea what the 7th mission is. I know it instantly the way he said it though, and he doesn't give away any locations the story visits with the tag.
How do you run the game in windowed using ini?
Didn't work.
It did the first time.
It's says out of range, which means the same.
I don't have the option to start in DX9 or 11 mode.
Ati Drivers are up to date.
The weird problem is that Double Agent works fine. And Convicition worked like five months ago.
NearRivers
Member
Fuck everything. It turns out im not the only one who experienced the corrupt data glitch. Sometimes the framerate will lag and then freeze during cutscenes as it's autosaving, corrupting the file. I thought it was confined to a certain cutscene on a certain level, howerver other people have encountered the same glitch in multiple areas. No idea if this happens on other platforms, as I'm on PS3.
I had to delete my save. I was on the last single player mission. Lost all my progress as well as a few top 5 co-op rankings on the leaderboards. You'd think stuff like leaderboard ranks would be saved to a server somewhere, but no, theyre dependent on your save file. -_-" At the very least I had recorded those co-op runs, but I doubt I'll be able to recreate them in game to regain my place.
I had to delete my save. I was on the last single player mission. Lost all my progress as well as a few top 5 co-op rankings on the leaderboards. You'd think stuff like leaderboard ranks would be saved to a server somewhere, but no, theyre dependent on your save file. -_-" At the very least I had recorded those co-op runs, but I doubt I'll be able to recreate them in game to regain my place.
You click that orange dot which promts a short briefing of the information snapped from some transmission, in that text there are some clues about the geographical location of the next hackable signal. Browse around with the cursor on the SMI World Map until you find the next spot...Repeat until finished meta-mission.
chickdigger802
Banned
jeebus that ending for the london mission... why?
Don't drop random character moment shit like this without building up ANY character at all in this game.
I feel like i'm skipping over some cutscenes or something because I don't recall any character development going down at all... and I try to run around the ship after each mission... and the dialogue is laughable at best.
Encountered my first fully armored up soldier. died a few times. What ways are there to take him down? I assume a few guns with armor piercing should do the trick. melee takedown from behind worked. None of the gadgets seemed to work :/
melee from behind seemed like the only nonlethal that worked.
Don't drop random character moment shit like this without building up ANY character at all in this game.
Sam seems to have returned to form in this game vs the previous and now all of a sudden he's a loose cannon type of dude? Briggs kinda hates your ass and is all about the mission, but decides to save you over getting the baddie?
I feel like i'm skipping over some cutscenes or something because I don't recall any character development going down at all... and I try to run around the ship after each mission... and the dialogue is laughable at best.
Encountered my first fully armored up soldier. died a few times. What ways are there to take him down? I assume a few guns with armor piercing should do the trick. melee takedown from behind worked. None of the gadgets seemed to work :/
melee from behind seemed like the only nonlethal that worked.
JohnOfMars
Banned
Have you finished the game? I will admit that part didn't have the build up it needed, but Sam & Briggs' relationship continues to develop. I was pretty happy with it by the end.
Each class of enemy beyond the basic mook guard is designed to foil at least one part of the game's mechanics to keep you from getting comfortable. Dogs don't care about seeing you. Spies don't care about the dark. Drone guys block your visor. Heavy armored guys can only be brought down by melee from above/behind (no gas, gadgets, whatever). Armor piercing non-silenced weapons can bring 'em down, too, if that's your thing.
Another trick is to throw down sleeping gas and then shoot their helmet off. It's really best to just avoid them though if you're trying to ghost and meleeing from behind is too hard for you.
Briggs is kinda stupid at first. Just be glad this Splinter Cell has more character development than most Tom Clancy games.
Looks like one of the first suits with some desert camo on it
You can do all the co-op missions solo except for Briggs'. I like them all, it's just that Grim's are by far the best.
Looks exactly like the default suit, but with a strap on the back. Maybe Ubi just changed it a bit.
Edit: It is the default (Classic Ops) suit, with desert camo, and it still has that strap on it.
chickdigger802
Banned
nope. stopped at that last night. Stealth games put too much strain lol. i can't really marathon them. maybe 1-2 missions a day.
Hmm those are really hard. I think there are keywords in the text that reveal the area you're supposed to look in. For instance, one said something about big sky country and, being from Montana, I immediately moved the cursor to Montana and a yellow marker appeared and I completed the mission. So with some google maybe you could solve them. They're strange, but a nice change of pace.
SammiiDoogles
Member
Some of these SvsM gametypes are so poorly balanced it's unreal.
Also, migrating host is so annoying! It never reconnects! As soon as I see that message, I know it's back to the lobby for everyone in the match.
Also, migrating host is so annoying! It never reconnects! As soon as I see that message, I know it's back to the lobby for everyone in the match.
zero margin
Member
just got prompted for an update on PS3, 21mb, please let it be host migration.
Oh, so I was doing it correclty. No clue, then. Second part popped up by itself without moving, third one, I can't seem to find it on the whole map.
EDIT: thank you, btw. My manners
+EDIT: is there some sort of "intro" in the game triggered by waiting or something? I'm finding a whole lot of reference in the intermissions that make no sense, not having played Conviction. Tell me they didn't drop you in the middle of nowhere narratively. I HATE when they do that.
What I've started to do recently is use them as a distraction. Get them sniffing and barking far away from where you're headed, than try to slip back and around away from them. Just avoid line of sight. you can end up attracting guards too. It takes some practice, but it's the way to go if you don't want to kill them.
That's disheartening to hear. Hopefully Ubisoft will make some adjustments to the spawn system.