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[SPOILERS] Dangan Ronpa 2 Spoiler Thread | Aloha, Despair!

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DaBoss

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Suicide in games generally make me squeemish. So when I saw someone walking up a stepladder to commit suicide, I was pretty disturbed. Then seeing Ibuki's body made me sad. Made me somewhat relieved to find out that Ibuki was not killed due to suicide or hanging her body.

Nagito's Junko hand thing, the state Nagito's body was found in, and what the Ultimate Despairs did were all disturbing as well, but none really get me as squeemish as suicide (except maybe what the Ultimate Despairs did).
 
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Hours Left

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ScraftyDevil said:
Finding Ibuki and Nagito's bodies disturbed me, but the only moment in the series in which I felt legitimately frightened was after Leon's execution when the students observe his limp body and the final bloody baseball rolls towards them. Sent several dozens chills down my spine and made my skin crawl when I first saw it.
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Yeah, that was still the most disturbing execution by far.

The ones in DR2 were pretty tame. Not that I necessarily want them to be more upsetting, but I was told they were pretty crazy, and I didn't really get that vibe at all. (Peko's was the hardest hitting one, but that was partly due to the fact that I thought she was holding Fuyuhiko's severed head for a second.)
 
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ScraftyDevil

Banned
Hours Left said:
Yeah, that was still the most disturbing execution by far.

The ones in DR2 were pretty tame. Not that I necessarily want them to be more upsetting, but I was told they were pretty crazy, and I didn't really get that vibe at all. (Peko's was the hardest hitting one, but that was partly due to the fact that I thought she was holding Fuyuhiko's severed head for a second.)
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Teruteru's almost gave me that feeling when the screen zoomed out to show everyone else watching his roasted body on the screen, but none of them really went far enough to give me the same sense of "oh my god this game is playing for keeps" as Leon's did.
 
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Nyoro SF

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I also agree that the executions in DR2 were not as heavy hitting as the ones in DR1.

I remember when I got the bad ending in DR1 for Kyoko where she was slowly on the belt sending her to be crushed to death, while trying to put on a brave face until the last moment. that was some heavy stuff.

EDIT: Wow beaten by Moonlight lol
 
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SolarKnight

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Teruteru's disturbed me the first time I watched. Sure it's pretty over the top, but the thought of getting fried to death just fucked me up.

Although the award of "most fucked up in the series" still goes to a certain chapter of 0 if you ask me.
 
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Zonic

Gives all the fucks
ScraftyDevil said:
Teruteru's almost gave me that feeling when the screen zoomed out to show everyone else watching his roasted body on the screen, but none of them really went far enough to give me the same sense of "oh my god this game is playing for keeps" as Leon's did.
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Agreed. Leon's left that impact of "OH GOD THIS IS WHAT'LL HAPPEN TO THE BLACKENED" much better, both to the characters & the players, compared to Teruteru's.

Moonlight said:
Nothing is ever going to match the sheer pants-shitting terror and anxiety that was Kyoko's execution in DR1.
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Oh god, when this happened with Makoto, I thought I got the bad ending that I heard of & it freaked me out because you're just WAITING, as it slowly gets closer & louder. It didn't help with Kyoko, it actually did crush her & there was some crunching sound effects to go with it.
 
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Trigonometrize.

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SolarKnight said:
Teruteru's disturbed me the first time I watched. Sure it's pretty over the top, but the thought of getting fried to death just fucked me up.

Although the award of "most fucked up in the series" still goes to a certain chapter of 0 if you ask me.
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I'm actually unsure of what you're referring to. Nagito with Junko arm? Headmaster being executed in THH?
 
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Hours Left

Member
ScraftyDevil said:
I'm guessing it's either when MASSIVE DR0 SPOILERS DON'T CLICK OH GOD
Junko comes to her senses and stabs Yasuke before kicking him into a fine pink mist, or when the Ultimate Spy dude is found with his neck horribly broken.
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I also thought about...

*DR0 Spoilers*
The part where all the brainwashees are watching the Student Council members kill each other on a loop.
 
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Zonic

Gives all the fucks
How long is DR Zero compared to IF? I highly doubt it, but it'd be neat if it was included with Another Episode, like DR2 having IF. Otherwise, I don't think anyone will officially translate it...
 
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Hours Left

Member
Zonic said:
How long is DR Zero compared to IF? I highly doubt it, but it'd be neat if it was included with Another Episode, like DR2 having IF. Otherwise, I don't think anyone will officially translate it...
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It's probably at least three times as long. I'm probably messing it up, but IF is much shorter, I know that much.
 
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Zonic

Gives all the fucks
Hours Left said:
It's probably at least three times as long. I'm probably messing it up, but IF is much shorter, I know that much.
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Wow, I was hoping they could do it like IF & include it as an unlockable (perhaps in AE if we get it or LE items), but that would be a lot of work for them along with the game. I also heard that it's 2 volumes.
 
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dakkumauji

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Zonic said:
Wow, I was hoping they could do it like IF & include it as an unlockable (perhaps in AE if we get it or LE items), but that would be a lot of work for them along with the game. I also heard that it's 2 volumes.
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It is 2 volumes and the main problem is that it is an actual light novel not something included with the game like IF is. So, they'll need to go through the whole licensing hell with it, translate and localize and deal with actually printing it too.

Basically light novels are something NISA has never done before so it would be a lot for them to do.
 
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Hours Left

Member
Zonic said:
Wow, I was hoping they could do it like IF & include it as an unlockable (perhaps in AE if we get it or LE items), but that would be a lot of work for them along with the game. I also heard that it's 2 volumes.
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Yeah, it's two volumes. If you just buckled down and read it, you could probably finish it in a day, but it took me about a week to read through it.

(As opposed to IF which I finished in a few hours.)
 
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Zonic

Gives all the fucks
dakkumauji said:
It is 2 volumes and the main problem is that it is an actual light novel not something included with the game like IF is. So, they'll need to go through the whole licensing hell with it, translate and localize and deal with actually printing it too.

Basically light novels are something NISA has never done before so it would be a lot for them to do.
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Yikes, so my fears are confirmed. Was hoping to own physical copies of it, but it sounds like those chances are pretty much down to 0% now. DESPAIR.

Hours Left said:
Yeah, it's two volumes. If you just buckled down and read it, you could probably finish it in a day, but it took me about a week to read through it.

(As opposed to IF which I finished in a few hours.)
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I'm a bit of a speed reader, so sounds like it wouldn't take me too long to read it, assuming I could fit in the free time.
 
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Crash Station

Member
Trigonometrize. said:
It's cool that this thread and the OT have been consistently relevant for some time now. Confirmed for having chance fro GAF GOTY?
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Overall GOTY? 0 chance of that. Chance it gets into the top 10, though, even if only slightly.

Has a Vita game gotten into the top 10 before? Too lazy to check past GOTY threads.
 
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SolarKnight

Member
Hours Left said:
I also thought about...

*DR0 Spoilers*
The part where all the brainwashees are watching the Student Council members kill each other on a loop.
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*ding**ding**ding**ding*

That and the whole thing with
the faculty member they literally sew his eyes shut and kept torturing and then beat to death
 
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PK Gaming

Member
Moonlight said:
Nothing is ever going to match the sheer pants-shitting terror and anxiety that was Kyoko's execution in DR1.
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Seriously... I'll never forget the sheer horror of going through that execution; unsure if I made the right or wrong choice...

The worst part? Seeing Kyoko slowly (and agonizingly) succumb to pure fear. Like, damn.
 
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Zephyx

Member
Guys, what is the World Ender organization? Is it just wordplay by Monokuma with the Future Foundation? I repeated Ch. 2 last night and noticed something awkward in how he said that the World Ender ended the world and it's embarassing to the point that it was most likely named by elementary students. AE's kids are from Hope's Peak elementary school, right? When I read this, I thought it was some kind of foreshadowing that a World Ender organization really exists and they may be explored further on the spinoff. I might be overthinking things but I just can't help but wonder.
 
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nynt9

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Zephyx said:
Guys, what is the World Ender organization? Is it just wordplay by Monokuma with the Future Foundation? I repeated Ch. 2 last night and noticed something awkward in how he said that the World Ender ended the world and it's embarassing to the point that it was most likely named by elementary students. AE's kids are from Hope's Peak elementary school, right? When I read this, I thought it was some kind of foreshadowing that a World Ender organization really exists and they may be explored further on the spinoff. I might be overthinking things but I just can't help but wonder.
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I took that as Monokuma viewing them as the ender of Ultimate Despair's vision of the world by resurrecting hope.
 
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Zephyx

Member
nynt9 said:
I took that as Monokuma viewing them as the ender of Ultimate Despair's vision of the world by resurrecting hope.
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That can also be true.. It was just weird for me when I replayed it. Seems like there's more to it given Monokuma's always breaking the 4th wall with his jokes and everything.
 
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Xpike

Unconfirmed Member
Zephyx said:
Guys, what is the World Ender organization? Is it just wordplay by Monokuma with the Future Foundation? I repeated Ch. 2 last night and noticed something awkward in how he said that the World Ender ended the world and it's embarassing to the point that it was most likely named by elementary students. AE's kids are from Hope's Peak elementary school, right? When I read this, I thought it was some kind of foreshadowing that a World Ender organization really exists and they may be explored further on the spinoff. I might be overthinking things but I just can't help but wonder.
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Well, to Junko, the Future Fundation was the "World Ender" of her dream, so that may be it.
 
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Rubedo

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Is it possible to unlock the promo art in the art gallery for each character like you could in DR1? The selection seems a lot smaller than DR1's which kinda disappoints me. If you don't know what I mean by promo character art, I'm talking about the images each character has like this:

Pekopekoyama.jpg


Nanamichiaki.jpg
 
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ss-hikaru

Member
Yay finished! (both the game and reading all 60+ pages of this spoiler thread :p) My thoughts on the game are kinda all over the place so I shall attempt to order them a bit...

The best thing about DR2 is Nagito
I absolutely freaking love Nagito. His presence made the game for me, he was always doing crazy things (mannn Chapter 5), talking like he was insane, stirring people up and manipulating people/situations/evidence and all those mood swings...ahhhh he was the beeeessst. He was so out there that Chapter 6 just didn't feel very impressive at all :| My reaction was pretty much 'oh, it's just Junko again'. Don't get me wrong, I thought Junko was amazing in DR1, but her reappearance just felt like a rehash. I guess it was partially because I had somehow convinced myself that the one controlling monokuma had to be one of the 16 students, and even though remnants indicates more than one, I thought it was referring to one of the students being the mastermind/remnants of despair. I would have been totally blown away if any of the survivors was the one behind the killing game. But in the end it was just Junko again :p

I got pretty annoyed with the game for not letting me bond with Nagito in certain chapters :p Then when I could finally chat with him (in the funhouse) I didn't have anything he liked :( Super sad about not getting all his hope fragments since according to the wikia he pretty much confesses his love to Hajime or something like that XD

On the twists
I did like the reveal that they were all part of the Ultimate Despair group. It kind of reminded of that arc in Death Note when Light erases his memories and you get a glimpse of what he could've been if he hadn't been led astray. Nagito with Junko's hand was deliciously creepy. And I didn't pick up on it being a game, but when it was revealed it was like huh well that makes sense. The ending/consequences of using the forced shutdown confused me though, so I won't comment on that -_-

Hajime vs Makoto
I didn't really like Hajime much (I really liked Makoto) but when Makoto actually appeared I realised that he's actually a pretty boring character XD I realised that I prefer playing as Makoto because if it were me I would act more like him than Hajime. If Hajime wasn't the player character I think I would've liked him a lot more.

Best Characters (other than Nagito)
I'm pretty surprised to see all the hate for Soda. I thought he seemed pretty normal and fun to hang out with, he's pretty adorable when he's geeking out about machines. Soda and Gundham were the only ones I got all the hope shards for. Ibuki was a lot of fun, but in the end best girl is Sonia for being cute (her obsessions with the occult/j-culture), being pretty useful, making me laugh (her wetsuit/swearing) and her budding relationship with Gundham (SO ADORABLE). I wish I had talked to Fuyuhiko more, his character development was really well done. I had no idea what to give him though, the one time I did talk to him I tried to give him those height-enhancing shoes and he got mad ^.^;;;;

Worst Characters
Akane and Hiyoko, no explanation needed (according to other replies in this thread!)
 
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abrack08

Member
ScraftyDevil said:
Finding Ibuki and Nagito's bodies disturbed me, but the only moment in the series in which I felt legitimately frightened was after Leon's execution when the students observe his limp body and the final bloody baseball rolls towards them. Sent several dozens chills down my spine and made my skin crawl when I first saw it.
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Yeah, the 2 most disturbing moments in the series so far, for me, are Leon's execution and when you first find Nagito's body. I actually had to quit playing after finding Nagito in chapter 5... It seemed like a such a gruesome, horrible way to die. And the look on his face... At that point I assumed it was one of the remaining students and that Nagito was actually Makoto. The idea that the main character from the first game, the Ultimate Hope, had his memories taken and was stuck in another Killing game, went crazy, then was brutally tortured and murdered right at the end was too much for me. I was still waiting for him to be redeemed and save the day. Of course most of that wasn't true, and he did it to himself, so it retroactively went from a really sad death to a pretty badass/crazy one.
 
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antibolo

Banned
I think my favorite twist is when they all realize that they misinterpreted Nagito's "weed out the traitor" gambit, he wasn't trying to kill the traitor, he was trying to kill everybody except the traitor. It also explained why his plan involved taking his own life in the process, since he knew he was also one of the Ultimate Despairs. That was a pretty good mindfuck moment.
 
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Rubedo

Member
antibolo said:
I think my favorite twist is when they all realize that they misinterpreted Nagito's "weed out the traitor" gambit, he wasn't trying to kill the traitor, he was trying to kill everybody except the traitor. It also explained why his plan involved taking his own life in the process, since he knew he was also one of the Ultimate Despairs. That was a pretty good mindfuck moment.
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His whole plan was a lot of curveballs.

Ok he wants to kill everyone. No wait he actually was never capable of doing that. Okay he was murdered. No wait it was suicide! But wait it WAS actually a murder and it was designed to bring the traitor out! Now wait it was actually to kill everyone but the traitor!
 
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A Link to the Past

Banned
Just managed to beat it today. Two things:

1. Ibuki was one of my saddest deaths (up there w/ Nekomaru and Chiaki). I wanted her to be one of the survivors! Though I suppose if I'm hopeful, she will come back filled with hope! :0

2. I suspected Mikan for a non-trivial amount of time for the first two episodes. I forget why in the second, but the first I got fixated on the photo, where she looked like she was giving a dirty look. :v Of course, the one time I decide that I'm ready to not focus on her, she's actually a murderer AND crazy.
 
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Rubedo

Member
A Link to the Snitch said:
Just managed to beat it today. Two things:

1. Ibuki was one of my saddest deaths (up there w/ Nekomaru and Chiaki). I wanted her to be one of the survivors! Though I suppose if I'm hopeful, she will come back filled with hope! :0

2. I suspected Mikan for a non-trivial amount of time for the first two episodes. I forget why in the second, but the first I got fixated on the photo, where she looked like she was giving a dirty look. :v Of course, the one time I decide that I'm ready to not focus on her, she's actually a murderer AND crazy.
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Technically they're ALL crazy. She just had the misfortune of reverting.
 
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Suzushiiro

Banned
The two most heart-breaking moments in the game for me were Ibuki's death, because she's my favorite, and the end of the fifth trial, mostly because I felt like the whole thing was kinda bullshit- in my mind that still should have counted as a suicide. I blew an entire life bar in protest of the situation by repeatedly trying to vote for Nagito.

I also had a small amount of feels when I remembered the significance of 11037.
 
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A Link to the Past

Banned
Suzushiiro said:
The two most heart-breaking moments in the game for me were Ibuki's death, because she's my favorite, and the end of the fifth trial, mostly because I felt like the whole thing was kinda bullshit- in my mind that still should have counted as a suicide. I blew an entire life bar in protest of the situation by repeatedly trying to vote for Nagito.

I also had a small amount of feels when I remembered the significance of 11037.
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The 11037 thing was weird to me, like I knew in the back of my head that it meant something, but I couldn't quite place it.
 
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darkziosj

Member
antibolo said:
I think my favorite twist is when they all realize that they misinterpreted Nagito's "weed out the traitor" gambit, he wasn't trying to kill the traitor, he was trying to kill everybody except the traitor. It also explained why his plan involved taking his own life in the process, since he knew he was also one of the Ultimate Despairs. That was a pretty good mindfuck moment.
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There's a thing i don't really get if nagito really hated junko why did he became one of the ultimate despairs he also wanted to kill her.
 
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PK Gaming

Member
darkziosj said:
There's a thing i don't really get if nagito really hated junko why did he became one of the ultimate despairs he also wanted to kill her.
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Just gonna quote myself

Nagito is someone who values hope to an extreme degree. He's always believed that Despair is merely a stepping stone for Hope; the greater the Despair, the greater the Hope, and Junko is Despair incarnate. He most likely wanted to prove to her that Hope would overcome any Despair. Unfortunately for him, someone like him could never Hope to overcome the Ultimate Despair.
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Schadenfreude

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Makoto still caring about Sayaka is super weird to me. Like, the chick tried to kill you and everyone around you. That she regretted her acts while she was being killed in revenge doesn't redeem her at all.
 
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FluxWaveZ

Member
Schadenfreude said:
Makoto still caring about Sayaka is super weird to me. Like, the chick tried to kill you and everyone around you. That she regretted her acts while she was being killed in revenge doesn't redeem her at all.
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Then should everyone in DR2 also hate everyone who tried to kill the others? Should the DR1 characters hate Hina for what she tried to do? Each one of them were in dire circumstances and were pushed to their psychological limits. I think it's far more realistic for them to look back on what happened after the fact and grieve/forgive the departed instead of keeping some irrational grudge.
 
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dakkumauji

Member
Schadenfreude said:
Makoto still caring about Sayaka is super weird to me. Like, the chick tried to kill you and everyone around you. That she regretted her acts while she was being killed in revenge doesn't redeem her at all.
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It's Makoto. Even if he's wearing a suit now, he'll probably never forget his first love.
 
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