[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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Please don't tell me this is real...

Good god, is anything in this movie original? Or is it all just call backs? Getting so bummed reading this stuff.

Pretty sure that line is just one bit of speculation.

I really doubt they're going to do that.
 
That "You aren't my father" line
when Han gets sliced
is pretty goood.

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Please don't tell me this is real...

Good god, is anything in this movie original? Or is it all just call backs? Getting so bummed reading this stuff.

If you want a movie that isn't about getting new people up to speed on the series while also getting them invested in new characters, but instead want something completely new and game-changing for the series, then Episode VIII will probably be the episode you want from what's been said about it.
 
So Kylo and Rey, both being Skywalkers were being trained at Luke's academy when the Knights of Ren attacked and murdered everyone but Kylo joined up with them while Rey was carried away to safety?

Is there any indication that we will learn who the Knights of Ren are or why Kylo joined them? Are they really just Vader worshippers?
 
where do the lines in that pdf come from? especially the father one.
I thought there was no dialogue in the leak?
 
That 4chan rumor is pretty obviously false, since we already know that Han and Kylo confront each other. Sounds like they just took some elements of the Mizzlewump dump (the "ancient superweapon" which doesn't appear to be the case anymore) and mixed them with stuff we already know.

Maz being a Jawa would be hilarious though.
 
Has it been confirmed that Kylo Ren is Han and Leia's son? If so that would be fucking cool.

It would be similar to an EU plot line with Jacen Solo becoming Darth Caedus, so it would kind of make sense. They seem to be borrowing some ideas from the EU, which is probably why it's non-canon now.
 
where do the lines in that pdf come from? especially the father one.
I thought there was no dialogue in the leak?

There wasn't. If there dialogue in the spoiler board doesn't have the speaker next to it, it's either speculation or stuff from other rumors.
 
No, it's not. You need the Force to balance the kyber crystal inside the lightsaber properly when constructing it, and having the Force will greatly help in using a lightsaber because you can block blaster bolts, anticipate other people's actions or swings, make sure you don't stab yourself, etc. But you don't actually need the Force to swing the thing around.

Also the book Before the Awakening confirms that First Order Stormtroopers (including Finn) have training in melee weaponry, such as that one riot baton guy in the commercials, which is why Finn knows how to do some swordfighting at least.

For some reason I originally thought that you need the force to even use and control a lightsaber. That it actually takes some amount of (force)energy and concentration to keep the light in check forcing it into a saber like shape. I was kind of disappointed when I found out that's not the case.
 
Can we get some Han dies first shirts already?

edit: Only one? There is about the be a billion think geek and hit topic rip offs in a few weeks.

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Please don't tell me this is real...

Good god, is anything in this movie original? Or is it all just call backs? Getting so bummed reading this stuff.

lol. the plot of the film ain't even that similar. I mean TFA doesn't really have a Heroe's journey analogue (to the extent ANH did), but the trilogy might.
 
I can't believe that there is a rumor thay Snoke is Plagueis. Is it even confirmed that Snoke is force sensitive?

You can blame Collider for getting caught with their pants down by a fake and then trying to cover their asses for for the reignited Plagueis rumours. /facepalm

Just remember in the current Canon Plagueis isn't even a Muun so even when Snoke looks nothing like him the Truthers will still be clinging to the hope that's its him and hes hiding it.

And yes Snoke is confirmed to be a dark side user.
 
It would be similar to an EU plot line with Jacen Solo becoming Darth Caedus, so it would kind of make sense. They seem to be borrowing some ideas from the EU, which is probably why it's non-canon now.

Nah, Abrams just gave an interview this last week that said he and Kasdan took nothing from the novels, and didn't even consider them. If there was any overlap, they considered laying pre-existing EU naming over the top of it, but the EU content wasn't a basis for anything in TFA.

Some things are bound to be superficially similar. The options available for pursuing a generational story going forward aren't that varied.
 
My partner and her parents love Star Wars. I'm going to enjoy hearing their reactions to it having known what's going to happen thanks to this thread.
 
For some reason I originally thought that you need the force to even use and control a lightsaber. That it actually takes some amount of (force)energy and concentration to keep the light in check forcing it into a saber like shape. I was kind of disappointed when I found out that's not the case.

To properly wield a lightsaber without fucking yourself up, you really need to be force-sensitive. It allows you to swing it around like a madman without cutting off your own limbs. There are instances in the past (EU) of non force-users wielding lightsabers, though.
 
Rumors...
Well i'm used to reading bullshit but someone on 4chan is claiming to be a voice actor in the polish version of the film.




So.... is Maz a Jawa?

Most of that just doesn't add up with the shot list, MSW and Spoilerboard leaks, etc. But damn, some of those concepts are interesting.
 
Nah, Abrams just gave an interview this last week that said he and Kasdan took nothing from the novels, and didn't even consider them. If there was any overlap, they considered laying pre-existing EU naming over the top of it, but the EU content wasn't a basis for anything in TFA.

Some things are bound to be superficially similar. The options available for pursuing a generational story going forward aren't that varied.

I think Kylo probably was inspired by Caedus, actually. We know that Abrams didn't throw out everything from the Arndt draft, which was based on Lucas' notes, because in the same interview (at least I think it was the same one), Abrams said that while he wanted total creative freedom and Kasdan wanted to wipe the slate clean after Arndt left, he himself decided that there were certain things that he wanted to reintegrate back into their script from Arndt's draft - in particular mentioning Rey and Finn (although who knows if the names were different). Lucas has mentioned multiple times that he wants to know "what happened to Darth Vader's grandchildren" and he was certainly aware of the EU even if he didn't care much for it. Since he's dead set on the saga being a family drama, I'd assume that Lucas liked the idea for Caedus (remember that he also vetoed Anakin Solo becoming a new darksider and told the EU writers to kill him off and make Jacen the one to go evil since it would be too lame to have two people named Anakin fall to the darkside) and and moved it over into Episode VII.
 
You can blame Collider for getting caught with their pants down by a fake and then trying to cover their asses for for the reignited Plagueis rumours. /facepalm

Just remember in the current Canon Plagueis isn't even a Muun so even when Snoke looks nothing like him the Truthers will still be clinging to the hope that's its him and hes hiding it.

And yes Snoke is confirmed to be a dark side user.
Plagueis has been mentioned in the new canon outside of the Opera scene in Episode 3?
 
I mean the alternative is just a leaked list of shooting scenes that people are extrapolating from.

Gandalf is not seen again in Fellowship until Moria FYI.

A leaked shot list that has concurred with everything shown in the trailers, commercials, leaked artwork and leaked book photos, etc.

Versus a guy who showed up one week before the movie comes out and says some things.
 
"Quick, someone show Russell Crowe 9 minutes of footage a week out from the full movie - we need good PR from him otherwise our movie is dooooooomed"
 
I'm hoping that Finn is force sensitive and trains to be a force user. I'd hate for him to get shafted after all the good images of him with the saber.
 
Nah, Abrams just gave an interview this last week that said he and Kasdan took nothing from the novels, and didn't even consider them. If there was any overlap, they considered laying pre-existing EU naming over the top of it, but the EU content wasn't a basis for anything in TFA.

Some things are bound to be superficially similar. The options available for pursuing a generational story going forward aren't that varied.

Interesting. Didn't realize they said that. It does seem a lot more in line with some plot points than you would expect from chance, but if yore going the "kid becomes evil" route, you're right about how that will pretty much guarantee similarities even if unintentional.
 
We know that Abrams didn't throw out everything from the Arndt draft, which was based on Lucas' notes

Its even less likely that EU elements were involved then. Lucas didnt give a shit about the publishing, and definitely wasn't using it as inspiration.

Kasdan, Abrams, Arndt and Lucas likely looked at anything from the defunct EU all of zero times.
 
Hate to say it, but depending on how long they plan to draw out this trilogy it seems risky to book Ford for 3 movies. He's almost 10 years older than Hammill. Not saying he's going to pass away, but there's a good chance he'll struggle to pull off all the acting needed on set.

I think he's gonna die this episode.
 
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