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Spring 2011 Anime Thread of ZAWA ZAWA, Money, emo Cyclops, and fun^10xint^40=Ir2
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zeroshiki said:
Gurren Lagann is shounen battles.
Unknown Soldier
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trejo said:
I was hoping he was gone for good so I wouldn't have to go through the trouble of figuring out how the Ignore List works on this forum.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well Shikabane Hime wasn't a master piece or anything but Gainax actually did make their interpretation worse somehow. At least we got that kick ass theme song!flawfuls said:
Astarotte no Omocha 8 - I know what this show is about and all but it's a little weird seeing the prince fall head-over-heels for a ten year-old. I like who he paired up with in the end, though :lol
And hey, look, beach episode's next.
And hey, look, beach episode's next.
With or without Uchip I'm already well acquainted with that feature.Unknown Soldier said:
A Black Falcon
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firehawk12 said:Kampfer 13 whatever:
The too hot for TV episode, featuring Kancho or whatever it's called!
Too hot for TV? But back in April when this first was released you said
as a response to my post about it here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27007900&postcount=6563 ... this Kampfer Fur die Liebe 1 (aka kampfer 13 if you don't count it as separate) is the same thing as that, yes? Is this release the uncensored DVD version of that episode? If so though why release now, didn't Fur die Liebe 2 release some time ago...
Infinite Justice
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Jexhius said:
Dragon Kid was great, Kotetsu helping out Bunny once again and Kotetsu getting no respect from his daughter lol.
Plus bonus of Karina basically cracked after the revalation.
Unknown Soldier said:
Its not that hard though
pieatorium said:
cool my bad then.
Set Hak 08: New Couple enters. My new favorite couple. ^_^. Like Junjou, its impossible for me to watch an episode without going into a furious blush.
Tiger and Bunny 09: Show continues to do strong. By the numbers, but everything is executed well and all the characters have been pretty solid.
I have 5 shows I look forward to every week. Haven't had this in years.
Tiger and Bunny 09: Show continues to do strong. By the numbers, but everything is executed well and all the characters have been pretty solid.
I have 5 shows I look forward to every week. Haven't had this in years.
Aad
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I've been really busy the last few months so I don't know whats on this season. So what are you all watching and whats good? What should I watch?
In the fall '10 season I watched and enjoyed:
Panty & Stocking with Gaterbelt
Kuragihime
Bakuman
Soredemo Machi Wa Mawatteiru
Arakaw Under the Bridge x Bridge
Winter '11:
Beelzebub
Level E
Fractale
Hourou Musuko
In the fall '10 season I watched and enjoyed:
Panty & Stocking with Gaterbelt
Kuragihime
Bakuman
Soredemo Machi Wa Mawatteiru
Arakaw Under the Bridge x Bridge
Winter '11:
Beelzebub
Level E
Fractale
Hourou Musuko
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Aad said:
AnoHana and Hanasaku Iroha. Nichijou too!
You ever hear the sound of despair? I'm making that exact sound right now as I contemplate how to go about this. it's as if despair itself could be heard not just felt although rest assured I feel it just as much as I'm emitting it.
Listen. Everything has a plot. From 12 Kingdoms, Escaflowne, Strike Witches, Kimi ni Todoke to Chi's Sweet Home, heck live action wise even western shows like the Simpsons has a plot. I'm not arguing no plot versus plot, that's absurd, I'm arguing perspective and scale.
For instance, WW2 is a popular theme in media, you got stuff like Saving Private Ryan, Downfall, Band of Brothers and a host of others and they all vary wildly in perception and scale of the same conflict. Saving Private Ryan was about a very short period of the war and getting one man out, after they got him out the war was still going and no-one bitched that the survivors didn't go back and kill Hitler and then jump on a boat and go over to Okinawa and start fighting the Japanese. That was still a plot despite it being threadbare thin and ignoring essentially the entire conflict, there was no big bad, the big bad was just not knowing where Private Ryan was, there was no end to the conflict as the movie ended when they got Private Ryan out of the last battle and the war just goes on, that was the focus. And no-one bitched.
But lets zoom out a little shall we? IF the 12 Kingdoms is about Youko, which I'd wager it's mostly about her but not all about her, than what of comparing her to say, Hitler? There are many movies of him, some that chronicle his rise to political power, others that cover downfall(lol get it?) and some documentaries that cover the whole thing but would one call any of them incomplete or complete? I mean just covering his rise to power is kinda blueballing the viewer right? Or is it really if that's just the specific arc in his life they want to cover? Do they have to cover his whole life? But then if they do cover him during WW2 is it not odd to end it with him dying and yet NOT cover what happens to Germany afterwards or what goes on with Japan afterwards? Or is it fine to just focus again on that aspect of the man?
So I don't really get this gripe at all. So there's no "big bad," well so what? Has there ever really been a big bad? In real life I don't think it fair to even consider Hitler the big bad, he wasn't the first and sadly he won't be the last, there's no hidden force driving man to evil, just us, so there's no big bad in reality but what about fiction? Well again that's usually a farce. Some titles certainly have a singular big bad but anything long running ends up just replacing them with anew big bad, it becomes a sort of a joke. So again, lets bring in perspective here. Youko's first arc did indeed have a big bad, a villain that needed to be taken care of in the rival King from her neighboring country, not sufficient for you? Not grand enough for you? Too fucking bad. What about Youko's second arc? Oh that one has some big bads too! Again, not grand enough? Not evil enough? Not fictiony really being manipulated by yet another hidden big bad you don't know about enough? Again, too damn bad. Because perspective is everything, when you're one man a big bad can be a simple as a guy trying to screw you over or hurt you, he doesn't have to be Hitler trying to take over a continent and kill a shitload of people he just has to be against you and try and bring you down. Move up a bit in the ranks to ruler or whatnot and now a big bad needs a little more clout as it has to be able to threaten your position but again it need not want to threaten the entire world or anything silly like that.
So this concept of the "Big Bad" is the mark of poor Fantasy in my opinion, the utter pathetic crutch of a poor writer unable to come up with any motive stronger than "pure evil" or some shit. Fucking sad. You say the Big Bads of the 12 Kingdoms weren't big and bad enough? I say thank fucking God. I'm tired of people wanting to conquer the entire world and fucking dabble in shit that has nothing to do with them because they need to be grand enough. Evil enough.
And you know why else these generic big bads suck? Because for them to even exist you have to walk some ridiculous line of incompetence versus competence. You can't build both your hero and villain up, have them meet and it not fucking end just to make them fight again. That shit is fucking absurd. If the bad guy's so evil s/he should just kill the hero if the hero's the lesser person and if the hero's really the hero the hero needs to finish it, how the fuck do you build two competent characters that are both bad ass and then have them dance around each other like that? I don't want some shitty comic book storyline here, if people are going to cross paths then don't sully the characters by dragging this shit out. You delegate the sides to GI Joe and Cobra, to CONTROL and KAOS, to bring it down to the character level, Inspector Gadget and Dr. Claw, essentially making both sides bumbling idiots save for the few times you want one of them to do something cool or evil.
:sigh:
I guess, yes, if the characters are "just good enough" than it works, fine, why anyone would shoot for the minimum amount of characterization to make something work I don't know, but sure...
Because of the pacing and weak character relationships those that did die were meaningless, events that should have been traumatic were not, events that should have been exciting were not, events that should have been touching were not, they were all very by the numbers and had no weight. Attributing further to the madness that is Escaflowne's shallowness is the absurdity of it all. While one gets the feeling that there is some kind of backstory to Escaflowne no-one is privy to it, probably not even the writers, so you're just left laughing to yourself at what shit they'll pull out of their hat next. Heroine falling? Hidden Wings for the win! Hero's robot down? It's ok, just press the magic button and the fix will drop from the fucking sky? Need money for the fix? No worries, fucking moneypants rendezvoused with you just the prior episode and he's one of the heroines fiance, imagine the odds! It goes on and fucking on. There probably was some mythos there and after the fact they'll go and half-assedly explain it but because of that it reeks of them just making it up as they went along, like a bunch of nerds were just locked in a room trying to outdo each other with each page of the script. It was high school English level shit at best.
Part 1 End, Part 2 coming later.
:sigh:A Black Falcon said:
Listen. Everything has a plot. From 12 Kingdoms, Escaflowne, Strike Witches, Kimi ni Todoke to Chi's Sweet Home, heck live action wise even western shows like the Simpsons has a plot. I'm not arguing no plot versus plot, that's absurd, I'm arguing perspective and scale.
For instance, WW2 is a popular theme in media, you got stuff like Saving Private Ryan, Downfall, Band of Brothers and a host of others and they all vary wildly in perception and scale of the same conflict. Saving Private Ryan was about a very short period of the war and getting one man out, after they got him out the war was still going and no-one bitched that the survivors didn't go back and kill Hitler and then jump on a boat and go over to Okinawa and start fighting the Japanese. That was still a plot despite it being threadbare thin and ignoring essentially the entire conflict, there was no big bad, the big bad was just not knowing where Private Ryan was, there was no end to the conflict as the movie ended when they got Private Ryan out of the last battle and the war just goes on, that was the focus. And no-one bitched.
But lets zoom out a little shall we? IF the 12 Kingdoms is about Youko, which I'd wager it's mostly about her but not all about her, than what of comparing her to say, Hitler? There are many movies of him, some that chronicle his rise to political power, others that cover downfall(lol get it?) and some documentaries that cover the whole thing but would one call any of them incomplete or complete? I mean just covering his rise to power is kinda blueballing the viewer right? Or is it really if that's just the specific arc in his life they want to cover? Do they have to cover his whole life? But then if they do cover him during WW2 is it not odd to end it with him dying and yet NOT cover what happens to Germany afterwards or what goes on with Japan afterwards? Or is it fine to just focus again on that aspect of the man?
So I don't really get this gripe at all. So there's no "big bad," well so what? Has there ever really been a big bad? In real life I don't think it fair to even consider Hitler the big bad, he wasn't the first and sadly he won't be the last, there's no hidden force driving man to evil, just us, so there's no big bad in reality but what about fiction? Well again that's usually a farce. Some titles certainly have a singular big bad but anything long running ends up just replacing them with anew big bad, it becomes a sort of a joke. So again, lets bring in perspective here. Youko's first arc did indeed have a big bad, a villain that needed to be taken care of in the rival King from her neighboring country, not sufficient for you? Not grand enough for you? Too fucking bad. What about Youko's second arc? Oh that one has some big bads too! Again, not grand enough? Not evil enough? Not fictiony really being manipulated by yet another hidden big bad you don't know about enough? Again, too damn bad. Because perspective is everything, when you're one man a big bad can be a simple as a guy trying to screw you over or hurt you, he doesn't have to be Hitler trying to take over a continent and kill a shitload of people he just has to be against you and try and bring you down. Move up a bit in the ranks to ruler or whatnot and now a big bad needs a little more clout as it has to be able to threaten your position but again it need not want to threaten the entire world or anything silly like that.
So this concept of the "Big Bad" is the mark of poor Fantasy in my opinion, the utter pathetic crutch of a poor writer unable to come up with any motive stronger than "pure evil" or some shit. Fucking sad. You say the Big Bads of the 12 Kingdoms weren't big and bad enough? I say thank fucking God. I'm tired of people wanting to conquer the entire world and fucking dabble in shit that has nothing to do with them because they need to be grand enough. Evil enough.
And you know why else these generic big bads suck? Because for them to even exist you have to walk some ridiculous line of incompetence versus competence. You can't build both your hero and villain up, have them meet and it not fucking end just to make them fight again. That shit is fucking absurd. If the bad guy's so evil s/he should just kill the hero if the hero's the lesser person and if the hero's really the hero the hero needs to finish it, how the fuck do you build two competent characters that are both bad ass and then have them dance around each other like that? I don't want some shitty comic book storyline here, if people are going to cross paths then don't sully the characters by dragging this shit out. You delegate the sides to GI Joe and Cobra, to CONTROL and KAOS, to bring it down to the character level, Inspector Gadget and Dr. Claw, essentially making both sides bumbling idiots save for the few times you want one of them to do something cool or evil.
Yes, they're both so not grounded in any kind of reality, fictional nor otherwise that every plot twist comes off as artificial and for nothing but thatsthetwist.jpg effect.A Black Falcon said:
What the hell are you saying here? Are you championing having just the base amount of characterization necessary to not make a story a fucking joke and holding it up as some kind of standard? "Characters just good enough to make the story work?" Why would anyone set the bar so low? I... I don't even... I have no idea where to even start with this. Do you do this on purpose? Hmm?A Black Falcon said:
:sigh:
I guess, yes, if the characters are "just good enough" than it works, fine, why anyone would shoot for the minimum amount of characterization to make something work I don't know, but sure...
Escaflowne's plot was too fast. None of the characters mattered, how can the viewer care? The love triangle dynamic was just as weak and threadbare as the other half of the story, which I guess would be lovepower makes things right or some shit. So for this discussion to go any further we'd have to agree on what constitutes "working." If by working you mean have a start, a middle and an end that's followable then yes it worked like almost every other show out there. However, if we were to define working as the above and add the stipulation competently then no, Escaflowne did most certainly not work.A Black Falcon said:
Because of the pacing and weak character relationships those that did die were meaningless, events that should have been traumatic were not, events that should have been exciting were not, events that should have been touching were not, they were all very by the numbers and had no weight. Attributing further to the madness that is Escaflowne's shallowness is the absurdity of it all. While one gets the feeling that there is some kind of backstory to Escaflowne no-one is privy to it, probably not even the writers, so you're just left laughing to yourself at what shit they'll pull out of their hat next. Heroine falling? Hidden Wings for the win! Hero's robot down? It's ok, just press the magic button and the fix will drop from the fucking sky? Need money for the fix? No worries, fucking moneypants rendezvoused with you just the prior episode and he's one of the heroines fiance, imagine the odds! It goes on and fucking on. There probably was some mythos there and after the fact they'll go and half-assedly explain it but because of that it reeks of them just making it up as they went along, like a bunch of nerds were just locked in a room trying to outdo each other with each page of the script. It was high school English level shit at best.
Again this is but a tangent, my gripe isn't how much or how little happens but how it happens.A Black Falcon said:
Part 1 End, Part 2 coming later.
Infinite Justice
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Silh said:Tiger & Bunny 9
Hilarious.
Indeed
C 6
I'm a bit behind on this one but, ah... What the hell was that? That cut from the fight was quite possibly some of the laziest shit that I've seen in a long time. Worst thing is, the animation kicked into a gear unprecedented for the show too! I was so hyped for it. Trolled, I was straight trolled.
anyways, kimimaros cluelessness is beginning to grate a bit. Can't he have a mind of his own?
I'm a bit behind on this one but, ah... What the hell was that? That cut from the fight was quite possibly some of the laziest shit that I've seen in a long time. Worst thing is, the animation kicked into a gear unprecedented for the show too! I was so hyped for it. Trolled, I was straight trolled.
anyways, kimimaros cluelessness is beginning to grate a bit. Can't he have a mind of his own?
Unknown Soldier
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Izayoi said:
NICE BOAT
Jex
Member
Ajunra 7-8
Pretty standard stuff. Chris is a douche, Arjuna is a crazy hippie, words are bad,
Arujna 9
Oh dear god no please make it stop. Apparently, babies in the womb know everything. They can think and feel and hear. They scream for you stop smoking.
They can even detect the phases of the moon and chose when to be born.
There's nothing I can write to troll this episode.
Pretty standard stuff. Chris is a douche, Arjuna is a crazy hippie, words are bad,
Arujna 9
Oh dear god no please make it stop. Apparently, babies in the womb know everything. They can think and feel and hear. They scream for you stop smoking.
They can even detect the phases of the moon and chose when to be born.
There's nothing I can write to troll this episode.
Unknown One
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Tiger and Bunny
Nice got to see the Dragon Kid. I can't wait until we get to see Sky high.
Nice got to see the Dragon Kid. I can't wait until we get to see Sky high.
I agree with all.Cloudy said:
Actually, Hanasaku Iroha is the one I'd put on the last spot of the anime of this season I'm watching.
I've just made this video loop of my fav scene of Nichijou, it made me laugh so hard xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAcN4nePK54
I've said the ones I'm watching, and i'm not watching all the stuff of this season. xDzeroshiki said:
As far for me this would be my personal classification of what I'm watching!
1. Ano Hana
2. Nichijou
3. Tiger & Bunny
4. Hanasaku Iroha
I'll start to watch soon C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control and maybe some other anime, but it isn't in my plans to watch Softenni.
I've started to watch animes of this season very late, due to my busyness this last period. :/
Anaru is terrible because while most of the other characters are stock archetypes as far as anime goes, she comes off as the worst, because every aspect of her character deliberately panders to the average otaku, except the actual show pretends she doesn't, at least the characters in say Infinite stratos are honest about it!
I would have accepted this a week or two ago, but after this weeks episode, you are crazy!
You don't trust already in those 'nouveau-jeune', those young recruits that GAiNAX is trying to indoctrinate, right? I (in part) think like you, but some of their latest series of adaptations like Shikabane Hime, Hanamaru Yōchien and Dantalian no Shoka were aimed to give more background and experience to those new employees that the studio needed to expand itself, so that Mr. Imaishi & Co. could continue with their top-of-the line projects. It seems that GAiNAX right now depends very much on a little core of great animators and other workers (a part of the old guard), and given the compromises, and possible departure, of some of their most important ones, they wanted to train that young recruits with medium-to-low-budget productions and assistance from those more experienced.7Th said:
I said that in relation to the latest shows from the studio I mentioned above, but we don't know for sure the approach they will make for this new unannounced project, we don't even know nothing about the staff yet, so the assumption that this will be some kind of second-tier production for them is, I think, premature.
And I don't say it won't be, keep it in mind!
Go_Ly_Dow
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Strike Witches 1-2
somethin' voice, somethin' generation
Ronin Samurai thing 1
Wimpier, dudebro power rangers!
[C] 7
We need to see more of Mikuni's past back when he was sill in the band. I take it his father is still alive?
I was kinda expecting Kimimaro and Mysu's (sp) relationship to develop this way. Should be interesting to watch it unfold.
Tiger & Bunny 9
I love this show. All the character arcs so far have been solid. They all seem to have an interesting personality, with plenty of redeeming features. The lack of tropes and annoying cliche's is truly wonderful!
The pacing of the episodes aren't bad either. There's usually a fight/action scene in every episode, but it doesn't really feel like it has been forced in for the sake of it.
Tiger is awesome and on top of all that we get, Bromance!
somethin' voice, somethin' generation
Ronin Samurai thing 1
Wimpier, dudebro power rangers!
[C] 7
We need to see more of Mikuni's past back when he was sill in the band. I take it his father is still alive?
I was kinda expecting Kimimaro and Mysu's (sp) relationship to develop this way. Should be interesting to watch it unfold.
Tiger & Bunny 9
I love this show. All the character arcs so far have been solid. They all seem to have an interesting personality, with plenty of redeeming features. The lack of tropes and annoying cliche's is truly wonderful!
The pacing of the episodes aren't bad either. There's usually a fight/action scene in every episode, but it doesn't really feel like it has been forced in for the sake of it.
Tiger is awesome and on top of all that we get, Bromance!
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