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Overall, this show was pretty much Infinite Stratos but with lolis and basketball rather than mechs, tsunderes, and Char.
In conclusion, to the people who support this:
So, the worst anime ever?
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So, the worst anime ever?
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Too bad the anime got DEENed.
Last 50 episodes of D.Gray-man were a nonstop bullet train of awesome. Had to end the show after 100 episodes because it burned through all of the manga up to that point!
I thought it built up pretty well from the start.
Don't remind me. Ugh . . .
I think the main problem is that the character is completely unnecessary. KotS already has a large cast of characters who could have been used to bring about the desired character conflicts in a better way.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Ugh, that anime was such a fucking troll. I can't believe they made the decisions they did.
Sengoku Collection 7
You know, it's rather odd how whenever I see screenshots of minor characters from this show, they all seem relatively competently designed, but then you see the Sengoku characters and they're all uguu abominations from the third level of hell.
Jex
Member
Now now, there's one example of this where you are actually wrong. Can you guess what show I am referring to?
Pretty much. Hope you like standard dvd cases and stock art!
This is far too believable.
Mayo Chiki, obviously.
Dog Soldier:
Just goes to show that you can't trust a bitch with bio/chemical weapons. Nothing that stabbing a few people and fucking up an entire private terrorist island won't fix, though. An AIDS plot in the 80s, so retro-edgy! SERIOUS MATURE ANIME FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS.
oh god, I'm being tested.
E........
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Evangelion?
Just goes to show that you can't trust a bitch with bio/chemical weapons. Nothing that stabbing a few people and fucking up an entire private terrorist island won't fix, though. An AIDS plot in the 80s, so retro-edgy! SERIOUS MATURE ANIME FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS.
oh god, I'm being tested.
E........
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Evangelion?
It also exposes that she had no real artistic need to have Sentaro model for her, if that was how she was going to paint him.
I think, in the little characterization Yurika has gotten, we see that she's a girl who likes to give off the impression of maturity, but is actually still quite childish. Which is not surprising, she's a teenager after all.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
[Poyopoyo] whatever number
Weak episode.
[Space Brothers] 08
Show of the season keeps being the show of the season, yadda yadda. Not in the mood for long explanations but this totally hit the spot with Mutta's reaction to the plot developments.
Weak episode.
[Space Brothers] 08
Show of the season keeps being the show of the season, yadda yadda. Not in the mood for long explanations but this totally hit the spot with Mutta's reaction to the plot developments.
Chet Rippo
Member
Gurren Lagann?
Zoku Natsume Yuujinchou 11-13
They went all out with the last 3 episodes. Loved how they were connected. I was surprised to see a
Overall great season. I mean I don't even remember the first one that much right now so I can't compare the two, but I liked most if not all of the stories in the second one. I would have liked to see more of Hinoe, but there is only so much you can do with a youkai
Season 3 will have to wait a while. Got a lot of shows watching in the spring season plus I really want to go back to watching Gintama. Beside I feel like all of Natsume stories are the same so there is only so much I can take at one time. I will most likely watch it in the summer season when the only anime I will end up sticking with is the awesome Binbougami ga
They went all out with the last 3 episodes. Loved how they were connected. I was surprised to see a
gathering of other people who can see youkai. I would have expected something bigger and more named characters but it wouldn't mesh well with the anime being focused on Natsume only. I wonder if these people have Pokemon style battles to see who has caught the best youkai. Would be fun to see a spinoff like this
The kid's story in the last 2 episodes was good. Had a good excuse to show the entire cast of characters and bring back Natori again. Speaking of him, he said something about the tattoo not moving to his leg. I was expecting something dangerous to happen but maybe they are saving it for another season?
The kid's story in the last 2 episodes was good. Had a good excuse to show the entire cast of characters and bring back Natori again. Speaking of him, he said something about the tattoo not moving to his leg. I was expecting something dangerous to happen but maybe they are saving it for another season?
Season 3 will have to wait a while. Got a lot of shows watching in the spring season plus I really want to go back to watching Gintama. Beside I feel like all of Natsume stories are the same so there is only so much I can take at one time. I will most likely watch it in the summer season when the only anime I will end up sticking with is the awesome Binbougami ga
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
You know what the fuck screw you guys I'm not reading 250+ posts just to keep in touch with y'all.
Also thank God Mad Pierrot can see over E7AO's stupidity and manipulation.
ALSO ALSO fucking NEXT EPISODE PREVIEWS they fucking spoiled the cliffhanger in this week's Space Bros episodes and I'm just now realising it fuckers shitters wankertwats alg;langa;l
One look at the OP should have told you everything.
Being lied to isn't a bad thing necessarily.
I assume this habit may be related to the NTR craziness.
You are already dead.
Also thank God Mad Pierrot can see over E7AO's stupidity and manipulation.
ALSO ALSO fucking NEXT EPISODE PREVIEWS they fucking spoiled the cliffhanger in this week's Space Bros episodes and I'm just now realising it fuckers shitters wankertwats alg;langa;l
Incidentally, one trope I've really grown quite tired of is the nonexistent parents one. Mainly because it is so often used only because the writer can't think of a way for his story to work if parents actually exist and have a role in their children's lives.
Ultimadrago
Member
Upotte!! 7
Tell me something I didn't know.
Some episode happening in snow or something. Nothing worthy of note.
Uh huh.
Tell me something I didn't know.
Some episode happening in snow or something. Nothing worthy of note.
Watching Black Rock Shooter TV, despite not enjoying it, means you are actually the biggest animeGAF masochist of them all.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Can you truly blame someone for being into masochism when it's obvious they are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?
More like not safe for anyone.
Jex
Member
Alright, so I've tried Kids on the Slope (love it, watching), Space Bros. (not as in love, but still keeping up), Eureka Seven (nope), Saint S (nope), Zetman (okay, I guess I'll stay on board), Jormungand (eeeh, I think I fell asleep in episode 2) ...
... this season seems really lackluster to me, GAF. Am I missing this spring's breakout show?
... this season seems really lackluster to me, GAF. Am I missing this spring's breakout show?
I really failed this test years ago when I first watched Evangelion as a teenager and responded to that scene in the opposite way from which it was intended.
I'd recommend giving both Tsuritama and Hyouka a try, but based on what you've enjoyed and not enjoyed, I don't think that you'll find much more to glean from this season. You've already tried out most of the good stuff and most of what's left is either pretty niche or steeped in otaku culture.
Fate/Zero
Chet Rippo
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Upotte!!
GL had that? We really need a database of some sort to keep track of this.
So you mean you didn't fap to it?
Shining Hearts - Bread of Happiness!
I'm getting mixed signals here! Somebody lay down the law: is the scene meant to be creepy or fappy?
You're right, that is a great shot and I think it nicely demonstrates the important role that background art and mise-en-scene play in establishing mood.
For those of you who might not know exactly what I am talking about when I go on about stuff like the important of background art is to take a look at something really extreme. For the most part, it's easy not to pick up on things like this because they're usually handled in a subtle fashion, but that's not always the case.
For example, lets take a very famous and influential German Expressionist film, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari from 1920. To explain very briefly, the German Expressionist movement attempted to use the visual language of film to capture the emotions and feelings of characters, rather than displaying the traditional realistic world.
To provide an example of how this different from a 'traditional' film, imagine a sequence where a character explains how he is going insane through dialogue and physical acting. An expressionist film would use imagery to tell that a character was going insane, perhaps by having the scenery become distorted or deranged. It's also important to remember that number of these works came from a time before sound, so long bouts of exposition were hardly common anyway. You might say that they were forced to resort to more complicated techniques to convey emotions and ideas. (This may remind many of the ancient debate about showing vs. telling).
GE would convey those kind of themes and emotions through lighting, scenery, shadows, strange angles, composition, contrast unusual costumes, unnatural acting and so forth. Here's an example from The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari:
It's pretty noticeable, right? The gentleman on the bed is right at the back of the frame far away from the audience. The scenery is nightmarish and otherworldly, with no straight lines in sight. See how even the walls appear to be falling in on him, making it look like the whole world is out of balance and unstable. It looks like the whole world is going to crush him.
Now, this is not the kind of imagery you see often today because it is so extreme and unrealistic. That isn't to say that background art can't play the same role today, it's just a lot subtler these days. Let's return to Kids on the Slope and this image:
Does anything stand out to you about this image? Can you put it into words? To me it looks like someone who is isolated, withdrawn and possibly unhappy. What, exactly, about the image helps to convey any of these feelings? I think it's helpful to look at where Karou is positioned in the frame and what we're actually seeing. Here's how the scene looks if I highlight all the straight lines:
Now you'll notice how much depth this frame contains. By depth, I mean that the image feels like it represents an actual three-dimensional space, like there's space that extends into the back of the shot as opposed to everything existing on a flat plane at the front of the image. They achieve this by having lots of lines which lead inwards and away from the front of the image, as well as by having objects appear near the front of the frame out of focus. You'll see the same thing in the Caligari image above. The depth of the frame helps draw you into the image and makes it more believable. In this case, it also shows how distant Karou is from audience (and a certain girl that he is thinking about). Now, you might not be thinking all this when you watch the scene but your brain is picking up and responding to the imagery on display.
Now, there's more to this image that just depth. It's also worth noting how inconsequential Karou appears to the image, he isn't even the central figure, he's off to the right. The dominant item in the frame is that staircase which slopes imposingly towards the middle of the frame taking up more space than anything else. Your eye can't help but be drawn along straight lines, and there's so many in this particular shot that you don't actually focus on Karou that much even though he's the only figure in that image, literally isolate from everyone else and yet he's not even important enough to be centred properly in the frame.
As a final amusing note, this shot is filled with windows and glass that would normally let light in and brighten up an image (and in turn, brighten up our mood) yet the image is extremely dark and heavy. There's only a bit of light coming in from the partially obscured window on the left, but it does nothing for the overall image. It's just a very dark shot, mirroring Karou's mood.
In summary, this image achieves it's goal of leaving an emotional impression on the audience through:
- Having Karou appear on his own, isolated
- Creating a deep image where Karou is withdrawn from the audience
- Low levels of lighting that create a dark mood
- Making something other than Karou the centre of the image.
Here's an image which fails to achieve anything:
Can you see how bad that looks? Yeah.
This is a pretty great analysis. I would also add that the background is visually interesting as a composition in its own right, in the appealing way that its lines and play off of each other, and the way it manages contrasts. For instance, the way that the darker area to the lower left is balanced against the lighter area towards the right, or the way that Kaoru, who is a dark figure against a lighter background, is balanced with the sunlit window against a darker background. Art direction works best when it is both meaningful and visually appealing at the same time.
And speaking of the lines, as well as what you talked about, what's also interesting is how they create a large amount of suggested space that we can't actually see, due to it being behind corners and walls. Combined with the extreme number of slanted lines, this helps suggest inner turmoil and hidden emotions.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I found it creepy the first time I watched it and I did that when I was a horny thirteen-year-old.
I am proud to say I did not fap. Pinky swear.
I am proud to say I did not fap. Pinky swear.
Fate/Zero, Lupin, Tsuritama, Hyouka, Mysterious Girlfriend X. All of these are good or great shows.
Hyouka, if you don't mind extremely light material that's exceptionally well-animated and directed.
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Ponyo
Now here's a feel good film if I ever saw one. Aside from it's tale of love and the like, I really, really liked the animation and sound design. How it all came together was incredible. It really lent a sense of reality to the objects.
I was really curious about the English dub seeing as how it had Liam Neeson, Tina Fey, Betty White and Matt Damon. I come to find out Matt Damon
It was also really hard to pin Liam Neeson's voice on Fujimoto. I just kept hearing Liam Neeson, not Fujimoto as played by Liam Neeson.
I know Ponyo is regarded as one of the lesser Miyazaki but I really liked it. I think its got a lot of heart that I could sympathize with despite it being aimed at children.
Spirited Away
I've really been trying to figure out what this is about, at the heart of it.
I see Spirited Away as a story of the burden future generations will have to endure for the insatiable appetite that past generations indulged themselves in (a prominent real world example, Japanese debt). All the while, future generations must present solutions to these problems without losing their cultural identity. Well, looking at wikipedia, my interpretation of the film doesn't deviate at all from what others have said. What would probably be considered radical however is me saying that I enjoyed Ponyo more than I did Spirited Away. I certainly understand the praise Spirited Away gets but it wasn't my cup of tea.
Now here's a feel good film if I ever saw one. Aside from it's tale of love and the like, I really, really liked the animation and sound design. How it all came together was incredible. It really lent a sense of reality to the objects.
An example that really stood out to me was when Ponyo was punished after having her arms and legs emerge for the first time and she's asleep in the bubble while the smaller fish gather around and sort of "chew" their way through to free her. The rubbery sound coupled with the very detailed motion of the fishes made for some very convincing imagery.
I was really curious about the English dub seeing as how it had Liam Neeson, Tina Fey, Betty White and Matt Damon. I come to find out Matt Damon
was merely casted for marketing purposes seeing as how he only had around 5 lines in the entire thing.
I know Ponyo is regarded as one of the lesser Miyazaki but I really liked it. I think its got a lot of heart that I could sympathize with despite it being aimed at children.
Spirited Away
I've really been trying to figure out what this is about, at the heart of it.
Not to get into too heavy but my take on this starts in the beginning with who Chihiro is. Here we have a very fearful and cautious girl. She likes to play it safe, very safe. She has no interest in surveying the abandoned theme park. She cautions her parents against sampling the seemingly free food to which they beckon her with the assurance that they have credit cards and what not. Chihiro is very much afraid to face her problems. Her journey into the dreamworld isn't so much a realization of how society operates but rather a realization of just how bad the problems of our society have become, polluted rivers and such being the metaphors for such problems. She has to eat food of her world to prevent herself from disappearing (I interpreted this as a metaphor to recover cultural identity in an ever increasingly globalized world). She does what she does in the other world under the notion that she can save her family from what they've become.
I see Spirited Away as a story of the burden future generations will have to endure for the insatiable appetite that past generations indulged themselves in (a prominent real world example, Japanese debt). All the while, future generations must present solutions to these problems without losing their cultural identity. Well, looking at wikipedia, my interpretation of the film doesn't deviate at all from what others have said. What would probably be considered radical however is me saying that I enjoyed Ponyo more than I did Spirited Away. I certainly understand the praise Spirited Away gets but it wasn't my cup of tea.
Too bad the first 50 episodes had more than 20 episodes of really bad filler in them.
But yeah, once you get past that, the last 50 episodes are amazing, a shounen paradise. Too bad the manga kinda sucks now and we'll probably never see a continuation of the anime.
Tsuri- Oh, it's been mentioned.
Shining- beaten.
...
Well then: Natusiro Kiseki.
Serious answer is Dusk Maiden of Amnesia
Ultimadrago
Member
トロン: アップライジング (Tron: Uprising 1)
Heeeeey, that wasn't too shabby.
I'm up for another episode.
Fate/Zero.
That's it.
Heeeeey, that wasn't too shabby.
Who didn't see that little twist coming though?
I'm up for another episode.
Fate/Zero.
That's it.
I didn't go as far as...uhh...that, but I did take it to just be a fanservice scene and I was oblivious to all of the creepy. Dark little rust-stained apartment with bloody bandages and medicine bottles everywhere? That was totally my aesthetic and I was too busy feeling a perverse wish to live in a place like that to care too much about naked Rei.
If I have to ask if I've passed, I've already failed.
Even the non-filler stuff was pretty hard to get through for me. I mostly just stuck with it during the early parts because Miranda Lotto was mai waifu.
Yeah, I've heard that the manga kind of went to shit due to the mangaka being ill frequently and the format switching to monthly, but I'd still like to see some kind of adaptation some day. The climax that the anime ended on was too painful to just be left hanging forever
Spirited Away seems to very much be a film about the importance of traditional Japanese values(though to its credit it also acknowledges negative aspects of them) and how modern Japan is not equipping children to deal with the reality of life.
Of course what I learned from the internet is that it's actually a propaganda piece for communism.
Wasn't the second season much improved? I only watched the first few episodes but it seemed to be much more inline with the manga as opposed to the first season which had a directed have a hard on for Aya Hirano's side character.
Master Milk
Member
From that one quote, I was thinking in terms of discussing how the word's meaning has changed over time, and what exactly that meaning is. That's usually the kind of discussion I see over the word, though that's not saying much because I don't particularly notice tons of discussion of it. But yea, things like "the word used to mean this, but now it means this" is where I was assuming the quote was based in.
But like I said, I read some of the article to put it into context, and yea, I was just jumping to conclusions.
Modern usage of the word, I think it's still got sexual connotations to it. Just not from everyone that uses it. Lots of people just use it as a substitute for kawaii because they seem to think it means the same thing, but others use it for things that are sexually attractive in nature, because they're sexually attractive in nature. I don't think either of those usages are true to the word's origins, however, I think it's interesting that even when misused you can usually see a trace of the word's original meaning.
At least Brains Base will make back some of their money spent on Penguin Drum, I guess.
Watching Zetman but not Eureka :O Damn son.
Try Fate/Zero (although you'll have to watch the first season first, but that shouldn't be a problem), you might enjoy Mysterious Girlfriend X too, the premise is wacky and a bit too "anime" if you will, but the show is meticulously done.
Also, Tsuritama, and maybe Lupin, it has it's ups and downs but I'd say it's worth checking out for the art style alone.
If this thread was partly responsible, then I very much understand what you've gone through.
I just looked @ the Amazon rankings again hoping that it was all a dream and I see it ranked @ #33... wtf? Is this shit even popular on 2ch?
The fact that you contrast "scenes with important impact for the story" with "normal anime scenes" speaks volumes.
I must beg to differ. The mood being aimed for is quite different from the one in Kids on the Slope, and the scenery accurately reflects that. First and foremost, observe the plants in the foreground. The effect of various household plants is a large part of the show, and directly related to what the characters are discussing. It's place of prominence in the front of the frame, yet discretely to the side, ties it into the conversation and theme of the show, while remaining unobtrusive. Observe the open door: A door ajar can often represent a fair number of things. Haste, an invasion of privacy, carelessness... the list goes on. Here, it represents the laid back nature of the scene. These are people who are enjoying the moment, they aren't bothered with whether or not insects are going to fly in, or the cat escapes. Furthermore, it represents motion, or a change: They've just recently gone from the cool indoors to the hot outdoors. This change from "cool" to "warm" is also reflected in the conversation; the characters are rejoicing over a positive change that has occured. Again, the change from shadow by the door to the pool of sunlight they stand in is no accident. Now, let's focus on the characters themselves. They unnaturally face the viewer, and jexhius uses this as a complaint: but is that right? He himself observed on the effectiveness of unnaturalness in a visual media. Just look at the image from The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari that he provided. Extremely unnatural; but effective. In Sankarea, the scene captured by that screenshot is of an expository nature, and the characters directly facing the viewer, almost as if they were conversing with him or her, subtly reflects that. Each pose also has meaning, reflecting the more lighthearted nature of the scene, and the characters themselves. The hands-on-hips pose is a classic one of relaxation, and relaxation often springs from relief. In this case, the relief from the fact that Rea's situation is improving. The old man has a simplistic expression, reflecting his simplistic, almost senile personality. Wanko's is full of excitement and exuberance: again, a clear mirror of her personality. With all this said, I must respectfully disagree with Jexhius on his conclusion of that scene from Sankarea.
See guys, this is happening because you encouraged those Bebop the Cowboy posts.
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