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Spring Anime 2012 | Welcome Home, Space Cowboy

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firehawk12

Subete no aware
Better than Chihayafuru amirite?
That's Saki!

I hope I don't have to use this but I'm sure its going to come up at some point with firehawk around. :p

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I said I was going to pretend this was Japanese Treme and I'll probably keep doing that since Treme got delayed. :p

Like Wandering Son?
I think screwing the whole show down to those tropes is fairly reductionist. Those things certainly inform, I don't know, the first part of the episode, but the focus shifts around onto the relationship between the characters, which is what's interesting to watch.

Moreover, the main character actually changes over the course of a single episode - his reaction to his situation and the people around him evolved over the course of the episode due to his interaction.

Even ignoring the characters, the way the show is put together makes it stand out from the majority of anime titles set in a highschool.
That's fine, and I'm sure some jazz person can show how the episode is paced like a jazz album and whatnot. But after last season, I'm not willing to just "trust" the noitaminA "brand" on blind faith any more. I mean, Mai Mai Miracle starts off almost the same way - with exactly the same situation
(country folk hate the fancy city boy, boy is alienated at school and isolated at home, etc)
but what it did with that concept was fine after the first act, so I have no problem with tropes at all. I'm simply judging the episode on what I saw, not what I may see next week or what's in the manga or whatever.


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Of course, that leads to Tsuritama:

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Boy moe is best moe. Pachi!

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I just like how this show works. Funny enough, it does the same thing as Slope as a way to introduce its main characters to the audience, but I think I got swindled by Haru being wacky and the colourful art.

I'm going to start an arbitrary debate for shiggles: Tsuritama > Apollon.
 

cajunator

Banned
Tsuritama 01

This show combines an alien and fishing together. Amazing.
Visually, its really really pretty. musically its quite good as well.
The show may be a bit insane, but its really enjoyable. I'm not sure what the hell its trying to actually be, but it doesnt matter.
I love the socially awkward moments of Yuki and how batshit insane Haru is. As expected, this is so far my favorite show of the season. The atmosphere of the show is just really really fun. Haru is like me when I'm having a good day.


FUCK YES. Someone giffed it. Best part.

One thing that was curious to me was how little background music the first episode of Kids on the Slope had. I'm wondering if this was a deliberate decision to reflect Kaoru's current state of mind, and the series will become more musical as he opens up to those around him.

I was definitely hoping for more music. Like every single second of the show. constant streams of Jazz.

I hope I don't have to use this but I'm sure its going to come up at some point with firehawk around. :p

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Jex

Member
That's fine, and I'm sure some jazz person can show how the episode is paced like a jazz album and whatnot. But after last season, I'm not willing to just "trust" the noitaminA "brand" on blind faith any more. I mean, Mai Mai Miracle starts off almost the same way - with exactly the same situation
(country folk hate the fancy city boy, boy is alienated at school and isolated at home, etc)
but what it did with that concept was fine after the first act. I'm simply judging the episode on what I saw, not what I may see next week or what's in the manga or whatever.

Hmm? I don't get it. Who's talking about where the show might go, or how it's paced like a jazz album. I was talking about this weeks episode and why I thought it was strong.
 

duckroll

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Tsuritama Episode 1

Very interesting show. It's wacky, dynamic, and pretty slapstick, but it moves at a breakneck speed, and coupled with the extremely colorful visuals and excellent music accompaniment, the show basically had me grinning for the entire episode. It's very upbeat, carefree, and hits the mood tones just right.

There's some pretty interesting animation moments, but in general it's pretty noticeable as a "normal" anime after watching Kids on the Slope and Eureka Seven AO on the same day. But I like how the show plays to its strengths instead, and lets the art direction and music carry the entire show even without amazing production values. That's a sign of a good director making do with what he has in an effective way.

Goddamn, this is such a happy show, it feels like sugar rush without the moe.
 

cajunator

Banned
Tsuritama Episode 1

Very interesting show. It's wacky, dynamic, and pretty slapstick, but it moves at a breakneck speed, and coupled with the extremely colorful visuals and excellent music accompaniment, the show basically had me grinning for the entire episode. It's very upbeat, carefree, and hits the mood tones just right.

There's some pretty interesting animation moments, but in general it's pretty noticeable as a "normal" anime after watching Kids on the Slope and Eureka Seven AO on the same day. But I like how the show plays to its strengths instead, and lets the art direction and music carry the entire show even without amazing production values. That's a sign of a good director making do with what he has in an effective way.

Goddamn, this is such a happy show, it feels like sugar rush without the moe.

You pretty much nailed it with this comment. The show just defines FUN.
Its a happy little moment in animation. Although the animation itself is noticeably lacking at times. But it doesnt matter at all.
 

BluWacky

Member
One thing that was curious to me was how little background music the first episode of Kids on the Slope had. I'm wondering if this was a deliberate decision to reflect Kaoru's current state of mind, and the series will become more musical as he opens up to those around him.

I think it had to be. In the first half of the episode I think (correct me if I'm wrong) there's only music when Sen is chasing Kaoru on the roof - because that's the only moment so far that has been "musical" to him, given his general misery.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Hmm? I don't get it. Who's talking about where the show might go, or how it's paced like a jazz album. I was talking about this weeks episode and why I thought it was strong.
You're saying I can't judge the show based on its tropes, but that's pretty much what stood out to me.

Unless this is just another one of those "I'm right, you're wrong" things, in which case, I can just walk away. lol
 

cajunator

Banned
I think it had to be. In the first half of the episode I think (correct me if I'm wrong) there's only music when Sen is chasing Kaoru on the roof - because that's the only moment so far that has been "musical" to him, given his general misery.

I would be nice if they play this angle up in the show. they probably will, given how the music seems to be played when Nishima is enjoying himself.
 

Jex

Member
The show is about Fujiko, but it's also about the people and places that Fujiko encounter in her life. I think it's an interesting direction for the series to take, and I absolutely disagree that Fujiko *must* take a larger part in every plot element in an episode.

I'm really glad they don't make entirely about her, it would be a fairly limiting formula. Well, it could work just as well I suppose, but I like the route that they've chosen to go.
 

Reknoc

Member
Tsuritama

Wow this is colourful, like, really colourful, and the music is really happy. It's an audio and visual treat. Not overly keen on Haru though.
 

Mature

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One thing that was curious to me was how little background music the first episode of Kids on the Slope had. I'm wondering if this was a deliberate decision to reflect Kaoru's current state of mind, and the series will become more musical as he opens up to those around him.
It also made the scene near the end that much more impactful which was deliberate, I think.
 

cajunator

Banned
I can't stop listening to the Nyaruko OP. Someone shoot me.

OO NYAA OO NYAA OO NYAA

Tsuritama

Wow this is colourful, like, really colourful, and the music is really happy. It's an audio and visual treat. Not overly keen on Haru though.

I enjoyed Apollon a lot for the Jazz and swagger, but so far Tsuritama > Apollon.
I like my sugar rushes. My life is a sugar rush. I can identify with Haru.
 

Jex

Member
Jormungand 1



Well, damn. I'm pretty sure I'll like this a lot.

The OP and the OST are awesome, the CG wasn't bad (if you ignore that fighter in the beginning), the characters have cool designs and seem interesting, and the kid protagonist's a badass, rather than a whiny brat.

You say that whilst posting an image with a nasty CG gun in it!
 

Jex

Member
I think the easiest comparison to [Kid's On the Slope - 1] is [Hanasaku Iroha - 1]. Both works seems to far better than you'd imagine based on the premise and both opening episodes are magnificently done - they feel more like movies as opposed to tv shows.
 

jman2050

Member
I think the easiest comparison to Kid's On the Slope - 1 is Hanasaku Iroha - 1. Both works seems to far better than you'd imagine based on the premise and both opening episodes are magnificently done - they feel more like movies.

I liked Kids on the Slope's first episode far more than HanaIro's though.
 

Jex

Member
Mai Ritoru Poni: Yuujou wa Mahou 13

Okay this series is clearly not exactly in chronicle order. The last episode was the winter wonderland and this episode was about the falling of the leaves. So not in order. That’s a little jarring but not really a big deal as the two episodes really aren’t all that important in the grand scheme of things.
I am afraid that you simply fail to understand how seasons work in Equestria. But that's alright, not every pony can be up to date with these matters.
I liked Kids on the Slope's first episode far more than HanaIro's though.

Well, I wasn't really commenting on whether you personally enjoyed it so much as drawing a comparison between the skills of the directors involved.
 

Steroyd

Member
Kids on a Slope - 01

Excellent first episode, it felt like it went on for longer than it did and in a positive manner to boot.

Tsuritama - 01

The visualisation was a little strange in that I didn't get what the whole submerged in water was supposed to signify exactly (drowning in the situation?), other than that very good, alien guy trolling the crap out of submerge guy with his water gun lol.

NOITAMINA'S BACK BITCHES.
 
You're saying I can't judge the show based on its tropes, but that's pretty much what stood out to me.

Unless this is just another one of those "I'm right, you're wrong" things, in which case, I can just walk away. lol

For clarification: if I were to say about a work that all that stood out to me were its tropes, what I would mean by that is that it is a clumsy, poorly stitched-together bundle of cliches which fail to create a world and characters I can accept as real. Tropes are in everything, but if they are the only notable thing it shows a serious lack of skill and creativity on the creator's part. Is that what you are trying to say?
 

Jex

Member
I tried to link Murad's sakuga compilation videos but it turns out his account got closed for copyright shit. All those videos (not just OP) gone. Lol. ;(

Lot's of sakuga/MAD video's have been pulled in the last few months. Can't count on them being around forever!
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
Tsuritama 1

That wasn't anything special, but it wasn't bad either.


The protagonist's looks during his breakdowns put me off, but the color scheme used in the clothes and scenery really picks my attention.

I like fishes and ducks, so I'll keep watching.
 

cajunator

Banned
Kids on a Slope - 01

Excellent first episode, it felt like it went on for longer than it did and in a positive manner to boot.

Tsuritama - 01

The visualisation was a little strange in that I didn't get what the whole submerged in water was supposed to signify exactly (drowning in the situation?), other than that very good, alien guy trolling the crap out of submerge guy with his water gun lol.

NOITAMINA'S BACK BITCHES.

i think it signifies Yuki's feeling that he is in over his head in socially awkward situations. Or at least what he considers to be socially awkward (which to normal people is a perfectly normal situation)
 

Branduil

Member
Firehawk always judges shows by their tropes, though, he just doesn't like the ones Kids on the Slope used. You guys shouldn't be surprised by now that he doesn't comment on how well-directed the story was.
 

Jex

Member
I didn't. : (
That's one thing I've felt guilty over is whether or not I'm making the right choices with the japanese dubs. I don't know whether or not the english VOs will be funny or not, and I don't ever know if the subject matter will end up being "so-bad-it's-good" or surprise me and end up liking it. I should probably go back and check out a few (like Garaga) with the english.

You need to go back and watch Senba right now. Heck, you should have checked in here before you watched it in the first place!
 

cajunator

Banned
Kids on the slope doesn't rely on overused tropes. Everything is a trope because pretty much everything has been done to death, but its a show that obviously doesn't need to showcase it.
 

Jex

Member
For clarification: if I were to say about a work that all that stood out to me were its tropes, what I would mean by that is that it is a clumsy, poorly stitched-together bundle of cliches which fail to create a world and characters I can accept as real. Tropes are in everything, but if they are the only notable thing it shows a serious lack of skill and creativity on the creator's part. Is that what you are trying to say?

Well, he says those specific tropes (transfer kid, for example) are fairly banal, which seems to imply other tropes would be less banal - but pretty much everything contains tropes. That's why I was saying that the execution of those concepts (whether it be through the writing or the direction) is what made it stand out.
 

Steroyd

Member
i think it signifies Yuki's feeling that he is in over his head in socially awkward situations. Or at least what he considers to be socially awkward (which to normal people is a perfectly normal situation)

I don't know, he's aware that he makes an odd face when he's nervous, and it activates when everyone starts staring at him (everyone's eyes = water), but that theory goes down the toilet because there's only three of them when they're fishing.
 

Jex

Member
Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Episode 09

Not digging the whole explanation for what magical girls are to the Kyubey people/universe. I don't mind the whole "uh, yeah, you're basically energy for us," but more the "we developed technology that runs on emotions, but we don't have the capacity for emotions." That makes no sense! I mean, they had to scour the galaxy to find something they could use as the resources they harvested, so why bother developing tech for something you don't even know would be worth harvesting in the first place? I know it's a dumb thing to get bothered by, considering it's only a throw away explanation behind everything else in the show, but it was just dumb. : \.
It's okay man, all reputable people complained about that shitty piece of expository dialogue from Kubey.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Kids on the Slope 1:
Good anime, but I think I'm going to have to drop it because it's not really hooking me with anything.

Can't really watch a music anime about music (instead of a music anime about chipmunks) without being able to hear the music.
 
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