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Spring Anime 2012 | Welcome Home, Space Cowboy

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Is it just me, or are the male leads this season all mostly pretty decent? You'd imagine more stereotypical perverts with the rabid infection of ahoge this season or something.
 

frostbyte

Member
Natsuiro Kiseki - 02

Most wasted yuri potential ever, two girls get magnetised together, and they spend the whole episode... of them running, wtf!?

Two girls had the chance for a hot, steamy night and they went running?

BLASPHEMY! I don't even watch Nanatsuiro Kiseki and I'm offended. SMH, writers, what are you thinking? You are going against what is right and just.

Is it just me, or are the male leads this season all mostly pretty decent? You'd imagine more stereotypical perverts with the rabid infection of ahoge this season or something.

Ahoges are too pure and innocent. Well, aside from Nyaruko, she's one feisty Cthulhu.
 
Shining Hearts

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A china/cat girl hybrid. Thats the deconstruction of so many things!

But a pretty worthless anime like K-on! just with weaker animations and bread instead of cakes.
 
Shining Hearts



A china/cat girl hybrid. Thats the deconstruction of so many things!

But a pretty worthless anime like K-on! just with weaker animations and bread instead of cakes.

hmmm... did they dump the Tony Taka character art? That's about all that was interesting about the recent games...
 

jman2050

Member
Kanon 10



so makoto's actually a reincarnation of a fox that yuuichi helped when he was a kid? and she's making miracles happen at the expense of her life?
aahhahahahahaaa are you fucking kidding me? this shit is so dumb it's giving me a fucking terrible headache. fuck fuck fuck

Man, between this show, Angel Beats, Little Busters, etc KEY really likes to stay in their comfort zone when it comes to cheap melodrama twists.
 

/XX/

Member
One advantage of the bright and vibrant color this show uses is that CG actually blends into the scene quite well.
Exactly! The solid colors and clean aspect give this an advantage on the CGI integration, looks good.

It's quite colourful so much so the world seems almost artificial at times. The sky looks really flat though and has no personality at all. It's not badly animated though. It's just strange. I guess the colourfulness fits the quirky world they're trying to portray though.
It gives me a totally different vibe because it is like a fancier version of that real world place. For example, it is true the sky looks flat but the many shapes of those so-white dreamy clouds, as well as the texture-like chips present on many things makes it look like a very simple but idealized representation of that city, as a boy would paint over a realistic photo of a landscape on a coloring book.

Another detail that I think gave personality to this show was the attitude of the passerby people on the streets and the aquarium scenes with Haru, or the students on Yuki and Haru new classroom; didn't you have the feeling that they were very easygoing? Reacting very delighted, gladly surprised or even chanting at their little dance without questioning much, I think all that has its own charm
(unless Haru shoot them all off-screen with that pistol, but I doubt that)
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But I don't really think it's the show quality in particular that people complain about on noitaminA, but rather the type of content which they started showing instead.
This could certainly be considered subjective, because I think there are also different quality grades for types of content, and I've seen criticisms based on that 'quality' (like blaming reused, generic or very exploitable concepts even if sometimes are well presented, and I'd agree with them in certain cases).

But as I said, that depends on each person and how they use that broad term.
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
Another detail that I think gave personality to this show was the attitude of the passerby people on the streets and the aquarium scenes with Haru, or the students on Yuki and Haru new classroom; didn't you have the feeling that they were very easygoing? Reacting very delighted, gladly surprised or even chanting at their dance without questioning much, I think all that has its own charm
(unless Haru shoot them all of-screen with that pistol, but I doubt that)
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Yeah, the whole city just feels like it's in the middle of a lazy summer day, and the bright colors fit very well with that.
 

duckroll

Member
This could certainly be considered subjective, because I think there are also different quality grades for types of content, and I've seen criticisms based on that (like blaming reused, generic or very exploitable concepts even if sometimes are well presented, and I'd agree with them in certain cases).

But as I said, that depends on each person.

I was referring mostly to the genres though. Stuff like Fractale, Guilty Crown, and BRS TV really have no place on the noitaminA block as it was originally conceived.
 

/XX/

Member
I was referring mostly to the genres though. Stuff like Fractale, Guilty Crown, and BRS TV really have no place on the noitaminA block as it was originally conceived.
I see, later I thought that was what you were referring to, after posting.

Anyway, what did they say about the original scope and objectives of the block when it was first created? I remember something about pushing for original content but not much more... was it explained something more specific about noitaminA and its future direction when they unveiled it? Or recently on this new season presentation?
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Stuff like Fractale, Guilty Crown, and BRS TV really have no place on the noitaminA block as it was originally conceived.
I think the argument could easily be made that these shows have no place on any channel.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Well, being a better protagonist than Renton isn't particularly hard work!

I actually thought Renton for the most part was a pretty decent protagonist. I found the rest of the cast in the early half unlikable.

That seems completely bonkers to me since Eureka Seven was very popular in the west.

It might be some stupid move to drum up interest in the BDs, either that or Bandai might be asking for some insane prices.
 

frostbyte

Member
It gives me a totally different vibe because it is like a fancier version of that real world place. For example, it is true the sky looks flat but the many shapes of those so-white dreamy clouds, as well as the texture-like chips present on many things makes it look like a very simple but idealized representation of that city, as a boy would paint over a realistic photo of a landscape on a coloring book.

Another detail that I think gave personality to this show was the attitude of the passerby people on the streets and the aquarium scenes with Haru, or the students on Yuki and Haru new classroom; didn't you have the feeling that they were very easygoing? Reacting very delighted, gladly surprised or even chanting at their little dance without questioning much, I think all that has its own charm
(unless Haru shoot them all off-screen with that pistol, but I doubt that)
.

This is really subjective but I personally think it's too colourful. I'm fine with the texture-like chips and interestingly shaped clouds; it gives more personality to the overall environment, giving that extra oomph to the visuals.

I'd disagree it's just a fancier version of a real world place; it's much more than that. It's like they turned up the contrast so much so it gives me a kind of eerie, too unnatural feeling. In fact, I think the point of these over-saturated colours is to paint a world that's almost a carbon copy of ours but with so much more brighter and optimistic than ours. Almost every visual was crafted with at least the primary colours present; it's just a constant bombardment of colours from start to end. They're not even toning down the contrast of the colours either. Even something as mundane as a doorway has so much colourful paraphernalia:


As I said, the colourfulness fits the quirky world and characters they're trying to portray though. I think they're being a bit overbearing though; I'd never thought I'd hear myself say this but my eyes hurt from cramming too much personality and colour in each frame ;_;

The surprised reactions of the passerbyers and the students chanting in those situations you suggested certainly do build upon the Tsuritama world. Their reactions are unnatural, unrealistic, and otherworldly. Almost contrary to what our expectations would be, although not exactly irony. The Tsuritama world feels wrong to be in; it's so jarring compared to our expectations.

Despite my negative-sounding impressions and dislike of over-saturated visuals, I do appreciate all these factors that bring the Tsuritama world to life. I think this has a lot of potential visuals-wise and now I'm only waiting on the story.
 

BluWacky

Member
Anyway, what did they say about the original scope and objectives of the block when it was first created? I remember something about pushing for original content but not much more... was it explained something more specific about noitaminA and its future direction when they unveiled it? Or recently on this new season presentation?

The noitaminA website itself says that the block was founded for "anime like renzoku drama". I don't know enough about live-action Japanese programming to really comment on whether this has a specialised meaning other than "serialised", but I think the block has always been supposed to show anime that is not targeted at the stereotypical young male audience. It wasn't about original content - I think you might be mixed up with Anime no Chikara, TV Tokyo's very short-lived timeslot partnership with Aniplex - it was about original audiences.

The noitaminA name was chosen because they "wanted to defy the conventions of anime".
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
This is really subjective but I personally think it's too colourful. I'm fine with the texture-like chips and interestingly shaped clouds; it gives more personality to the overall environment, giving that extra oomph to the visuals.

I'd disagree it's just a fancier version of a real world place; it's much more than that. It's like they turned up the contrast so much so it gives me a kind of eerie, too unnatural feeling. In fact, I think the point of these over-saturated colours is to paint a world that's almost a carbon copy of ours but with so much more brighter and optimistic than ours. Almost every visual was crafted with at least the primary colours present; it's just a constant bombardment of colours from start to end. They're not even toning down the contrast of the colours either. Even something as mundane as a doorway has so much colourful paraphernalia:



As I said, the colourfulness fits the quirky world and characters they're trying to portray though. I think they're being a bit overbearing though; I'd never thought I'd hear myself say this but my eyes hurt from cramming too much personality and colour in each frame ;_;

The surprised reactions of the passerbyers and the students chanting in those situations you suggested certainly do build upon the Tsuritama world. Their reactions are unnatural, unrealistic, and otherworldly. Almost contrary to what our expectations would be, although not exactly irony. The Tsuritama world feels wrong to be in; it's so jarring compared to our expectations.

Despite my negative-sounding impressions and dislike of over-saturated visuals, I do appreciate all these factors that bring the Tsuritama world to life. I think this has a lot of potential visuals-wise and now I'm only waiting on the story.
Calibrate your TV.
 

/XX/

Member
The surprised reactions of the passerbyers and the students chanting in those situations you suggested certainly do build upon the Tsuritama world. Their reactions are unnatural, unrealistic, and otherworldly. Almost contrary to what our expectations would be, although not exactly irony. The Tsuritama world feels wrong to be in; it's so jarring compared to our expectations.

Despite my negative-sounding impressions and dislike of over-saturated visuals, I do appreciate all these factors that bring the Tsuritama world to life. I think this has a lot of potential visuals-wise and now I'm only waiting on the story.
Of course, you describe it well. I like it for that semi-fantasy environment approach, but obviously I can't fault your position on this because it is a rightful one. We have different tolerances to colorful things, man!

The noitaminA website itself says that the block was founded for "anime like renzoku drama". I don't know enough about live-action Japanese programming to really comment on whether this has a specialised meaning other than "serialised", but I think the block has always been supposed to show anime that is not targeted at the stereotypical young male audience. It wasn't about original content - I think you might be mixed up with Anime no Chikara, TV Tokyo's very short-lived timeslot partnership with Aniplex - it was about original audiences.

The noitaminA name was chosen because they "wanted to defy the conventions of anime".
Yeah, I see I mixed the premises of those two... thanks for the information BluWacky!
 

Jex

Member
You know, the worst thing of this is having to hear in the near future more "noitaminA is dead" or comments like that when people start comparing shows. Quality like the presented right now is going to be difficult to maintain on a cyclic TV block of this kind.

We certainly have to enjoy the moment!

Stop being so reasonable!
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Pizzaroll, this is why many people consider you a troll, because you try to dismiss his opinion with a throwaway line.
What? I'm saying that Tsuritama is not as overbearingly bright as he is describing it and could be a result of overblown contrast on his TV with the bright (but not overly bright) visual design it has. Since you seem to know so much about me, you should also remember the emphasis I've always put on video & display quality.

Maybe you bunch should stop reading into every single post I make. If they bother you, don't reply.
 

cajunator

Banned
Kids on the Slope 01:

Anime status: Fuckin' saved!

The pacing and direction are stellar, the animation and artwork are quite nice, and I really like the characters and setup.

This is where it's at! XD

Saved? It's never actually in danger. Just various degrees of existence.

How the hell does the ahoge work through the hat?

How does anything work in Medaka Box?

Just watched Acchi Kocchi ...

Tsumiki is the best character of the season. No question.

Well...maybe second. I dunno. Too much cute this season. Peace is still queen of [redacted]

not sure about 'best', heck I'm not even sure she is classifiable as a 'character'.

She is just a bundle of adorable. Which I'm fine with.

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Tsumiki is third, although yes she's very adorable. the problem is that's all we really know about her.

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Almost forgot.


cutest of the year.

Bingo.

Actually if Kids on the Slope was directed by a different director I'm pretty sure it would get praise here regardless, because AnimeGAF loves noitamina stuff, I just think people are overselling it due to the Watanabe name, heck I know a number of people who wouldn't even watch the show if it wasn't directed by Watanabe to begin with, so there's that too.:p

This is kind of bullshit. A good show is a good show. I'm in it for the jazz and the slice of life bro story. I don't care who directed it or who the staff is.

One of the greatest series ever.... watch it... nAO.

It's pretty rad.

Norio Wakamoto singing the Haiyore! Nyaruko-san Op.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FPXYp_A4Rs&feature=player_embedded

Oh lord.

Norio improves everything. EVERYTHING.

Shining Hearts



A china/cat girl hybrid. Thats the deconstruction of so many things!

But a pretty worthless anime like K-on! just with weaker animations and bread instead of cakes.

O_O! [redacted]!!!
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
What? I'm saying that Tsuritama is not as overbearingly bright as he is describing it and could be a result of overblown contrast on his TV with the bright (but not overly bright) visual design it has.

Maybe you bunch should stop reading into every single post I make. If they bother you, don't reply.

Do you really think that all that he's saying is that the colours are just a little too bright? I don't want to put words in his mouth, but the way I read it, he thinks that the artists are trying to cram just a little too much into every shot of the show. He also mentioned many positives about the show, but you really only noticed the few lines where he mentions the vibrant colours? And your first thought isn't, "he has a different opinion than me", but rather, "He must be doing something wrong"?

It's really not a big deal to me, but it goes against what you often claim about yourself.
 

cajunator

Banned
Tsuritama is a good example of excessive eye candy being a good thing. the show is nonstop energy veiled by a thin layer of tranquility. There should be a lot going on in the background of a show like this. totally fits its character.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Do you really think that all that he's saying is that the colours are just a little too bright? I don't want to put words in his mouth, but the way I read it, he thinks that the artists are trying to cram just a little too much into every shot of the show. He also mentioned many positives about the show, but you really only noticed the few lines where he mentions the vibrant colours? And your first thought isn't, "he has a different opinion than me", but rather, "He must be doing something wrong"?

It's really not a big deal to me, but it goes against what you often claim about yourself.
A few lines? There was an entire paragraph on it. I didn't edit it down to that paragraph only because I'm on my phone and it's a pain.

But whatever. I guess I'll just stop trying to post anything because people are clearly going to have issues no matter what.
 

Jex

Member
Kanon 2002 13 END



uuuhhhhhh,
so if ayu was in a coma all this time then how in the fuck was she interacting with others earlier on in the show?????
i can't believe someone actually wrote this convoluted shit. thankfully there's only a special left so i can put this suffering behind me... until yami to boushi that is.

Does your madness know no end?
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
A few lines? There was an entire paragraph on it. I didn't edit it down to that paragraph only because I'm on my phone and it's a pain.

But whatever. I guess I'll just stop trying to post anything because people are clearly going to have issues no matter what.

And here you're doing the same thing again: you ignore 9/10ths of what someone says, just so you can find the one thing you want to harp on. Which would be fine so long as you actually acknowledge the other 9/10ths exist.


But you are correct, it was an entire paragraph, not just a few lines.


I wasn't trying to be critical of you, but you often complain about how people claim you are a troll, and I was explaining that that was one of the reasons why.
 

/XX/

Member
Stop being so reasonable!
I'm sure that thinking about that now will make me miss these shows less in the future. A little sad situation, isn't it?

A few lines? There was an entire paragraph on it. I didn't edit it down to that paragraph only because I'm on my phone and it's a pain.

But whatever. I guess I'll just stop trying to post anything because people are clearly going to have issues no matter what.
Come on! Don't say it like that... I don't want you to stop posting.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
And here you're doing the same thing again: you ignore 9/10ths of what someone says, just so you can find the one thing you want to harp on. Which would be fine so long as you actually acknowledge the other 9/10ths exist.

I wasn't trying to be critical of you, but you often complain about how people claim you are a troll, and I was explaining that that was one of the reasons why.
I'm not harping on him, jesus. I was actually trying to help because I find the color design in Tsuritama to be pitch perfect but also the sort of thing easily ruined by overblown contrast and such found on most people's TVs.
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
I'm not harping on him, jesus. I was actually trying to help because I find the color design in Tsuritama to be pitch perfect but also the sort of thing easily ruined by overblown contrast and such found on most people's TVs.

I didn't say you were harping on him.

I don't think you were harping on him.

I was saying that if you put a bit more thought into how you responded, you could avoid a lot of people claiming you're a troll.

But if you don't mind the complaints, I guess that's fine too.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Natsuiro Kiseki
Two episodes to yuri:
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Yeah, so the whole show is presumably based on the supernatural element and the girls having various hijinks as a result of that. I suppose that might be fine if they didn't just assumed that people would care about the characters without any real development.
 

Jex

Member
Natsuiro Kiseki
Two episodes to yuri:
HYeYVl.jpg


Yeah, so the whole show is presumably based on the supernatural element and the girls having various hijinks as a result of that. I suppose that might be fine if they didn't just assumed that people would care about the characters without any real development.

So it still sucks, huh? I can't really tell because you wrote less than 500 words.
 

cajunator

Banned
Natsuiro Kiseki
Two episodes to yuri:
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Yeah, so the whole show is presumably based on the supernatural element and the girls having various hijinks as a result of that. I suppose that might be fine if they didn't just assumed that people would care about the characters without any real development.

I like where this is going...
wherever the hell it is going.
 

Jex

Member
Mai Ritoru Poni: Yuujou wa Mahou 17



The Cutie Mark Crusaders are so adorable. Obnoxious, bratty, fiendish little kids but so adorable none the less. Sweetie Belle’s “lullaby” was so moe and Hammer. Hammer. Applebloom is still the best but Sweetie Belle is still great too, a lot better than her hag of an older sister. Hopefully Scootaloo gets some more screen time.

You're going to love season 2!
 
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