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Star Citizen Pre-Alpha: 'Arena Commander' Dogfighting

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Tommyhawk

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0.9 is live, get it while it's still hot!

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14143-Arena-Commander-V09-Released

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phoenixyz

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Aaaand you can't choose another hangar if you had the discount hangar before. "More of an aesthetic choice" my ass. How can they be so ridiculously greedy?
 
Holy crap, that M50 commercial. They are getting better and better at these cinematics; great writing too.

Aaaand you can't choose another hangar if you had the discount hangar before. "More of an aesthetic choice" my ass. How can they be so ridiculously greedy?

This is disappointing though, as I'm sure they'd said in the past that everyone would be able to choose,
 

Danthrax

Batteries the CRISIS!
yeah, I had Business Hangar before, now I get to choose between Aeroview and SelfLand. It's cool that I have the choice (I'd always wanted to see what my ships looked like in the Discount Hangar) but I'm a bit disappointed that I can't choose Revel & York and whatever the Asteroid Hangar is being called.

I can't even buy the Asteroid Hangar! And the Revel & York costs 40 damn dollars! That's way too much for a static area. It should cost $10 tops (and even then it's greedy).
 

Tommyhawk

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If they would offer the option to choose from all hangars (even if you have the 30$ package) then there would be a ton of pissed of people who bought the hangar addons.

So I think that this "If you have access to the highest tier hangar (Asteroid) you will be able to elect any of the lower tier hangars if you prefer them aesthetically." was always the plan but that they've communicated it (once again) poorly.
 

Daedardus

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They should have refunded the people with credits to those who bought the hangar add-ons. The way it was told in the stream was that everyone could choose freely.
 

Irobot82

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Problem with hotas isn't the key-mapping. It's the acceleration that makes it impossible to line your target.

Improved control sensitivity for finer control on joysticks and thumbsticks.

In the patch notes. Maybe you'll have better luck now.
 
yea it's really shitty having a constellation and not being able to select the asteroid hangar but those with a ship half the price are able to
 

Sylas

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Can I fly ships that I have not purchased if I have Arena Commander access? I saw the newest update included more ships, but I only have a single ship purchased. Can I try out the newer ships, or am I stuck flying my 300i until the full game launches?
 
Can I fly ships that I have not purchased if I have Arena Commander access? I saw the newest update included more ships, but I only have a single ship purchased. Can I try out the newer ships, or am I stuck flying my 300i until the full game launches?

As of now though, you can only fly the 300i. They are planning to do two things though:
1) In Arena Commander you will be able to earn fake UEC which you can use to buy ships (only for AC).
2) They are planning to do special events such as a free M50 weekend or something where everyone has access to a ship for a weekend so you can try it out.

So you aren't stuck with only being able to fly the 300i until the game launches. Plus, the PU Alpha comes out next year, so that's when you should get your first taste of buying new ships to use in the universe. Granted, your progress will probably be wiped before release, but you'll still get a chance to play with different ships.

Oh, hey look, I couldn't find that in the store.

$50 for a hangar is insane, though.

I agree. It simply isn't worth it, even though the asteroid hangar is the most badass looking. I imagine it won't be terribly hard to get a new hangar. Can't wait to see what the new deluxe hangar looks like after work though!
 

Sylas

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As of now though, you can only fly the 300i. They are planning to do two things though:
1) In Arena Commander you will be able to earn fake UEC which you can use to buy ships (only for AC).
2) They are planning to do special events such as a free M50 weekend or something where everyone has access to a ship for a weekend so you can try it out.

So you aren't stuck with only being able to fly the 300i until the game launches. Plus, the PU Alpha comes out next year, so that's when you should get your first taste of buying new ships to use in the universe. Granted, your progress will probably be wiped before release, but you'll still get a chance to play with different ships.



I agree. It simply isn't worth it, even though the asteroid hangar is the most badass looking. I imagine it won't be terribly hard to get a new hangar. Can't wait to see what the new deluxe hangar looks like after work though!

Awesome. Thank you! That unrustles my jimmies significantly. I was really concerned that I'd flat-out be unable to compete with people that have purchased certain ships but also have no method to obtaining those ships without dropping an amount that, personally, is ludicrous.
 
well it just seems crazy hearing people who spent thousands of dollars who also aren't able to get the Roid hangar, I'm guessing CIG is going to change this very soon from the way the forums are blowing up over the issue.

At this point though it seems CR is surpassing Lord Gaben in taking our virtual space dollars
 

Zabojnik

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Wait, really? Praise Christ.

Looks like it.

"Your HUD now features a lead target indicator which will extend from your active target. This is your targeting computer’s (ITTS) attempt at telling you where to shoot in order for your weapon groups to hit the target. It accounts for relative velocity, acceleration, and the average projectile speed of your weapon groups. This change to targeting means that you no longer aim at the ship itself and rely on ITTS to auto-fire on the predicted hit location. Instead, pilots need a little more skill: you’ll have to fire at the ITTS lead indicator! We’d originally wanted to have this system in place for V0.8 so we are very excited to introduce it with 0.9. This is a big change to how Dogfighting works in Arena Commander but is more realistic, and fun."

Also:

With the introduction of the Lead Target Indicator we’ve also introduced fixed weapons and fixed weapon convergence. Now class one weapon mounts are properly fixed forward and no longer gimbal. They do however now automatically converge based on your range to the target lead indicator to ensure that if you line up your gun cross properly, you won’t miss.
 
Yeah, with Class 1 weapons and the increased speed the combat is really getting interesting.


Also a lot of people on the official forums have been exposed now that they can't actually hit shit.
 

epmode

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So I can no longer disable antialiasing for Star Citizen using the Nvidia Control Panel. The Antialiasing Mode section only shows these options:

Use global setting (Application-controlled)
Application-controlled
Enhance the application setting

There's no "off". Any ideas?

edit: Looks like I have to re-enable the "Show only programs found on this computer" option and then manually add the EXE.
 
So I can no longer disable antialiasing for Star Citizen using the Nvidia Control Panel. The Antialiasing Mode section only shows these options:

Use global setting (Application-controlled)
Application-controlled
Enhance the application setting

There's no "off". Any ideas?

The game doesn't even have any AA currently, so why not just leave it alone?
 

epmode

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Looks like the console no longer recognizes my commands to disable chromatic aberration and motion blur.

r_MotionBlur and r_ChromaticAberration aren't found by the parser.

The game doesn't even have any AA currently, so why not just leave it alone?

Oh yeah? I don't even think I tried launching it without disabling it in drivers first. My framerate is already pretty shaky at full resolution.
 
Yeah, with Class 1 weapons and the increased speed the combat is really getting interesting.


Also a lot of people on the official forums have been exposed now that they can't actually hit shit.

I can imagine the official forums will have concern threads that read like this.

"*CONCERN* AC too hard?!"
 

epmode

Member
Oh god, the sensitivity on a 360 pad is utterly broken. It's basically unplayable.

Hurry up with the custom control binds so I can use my HOTAS.
 
Now this old dirty hangar is a god damn hangar now, it looks significantly better than the old one, looks like a real grungy hangar now. Can't wait to get my Mustang because this Aurora ain't doing so hot in the races.
 
"Hurry up with the custom control binds so I can use my HOTAS."


You can make custom control binds, you just have to fiddle with xml. I had to do it for my CH HOTAS.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
so glad I waited to watch the M50 commercial until the 4k vid came out

holy jeebuz

that 890i commercial is gonna be porn
 

Irobot82

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Yeah, with Class 1 weapons and the increased speed the combat is really getting interesting.


Also a lot of people on the official forums have been exposed now that they can't actually hit shit.

I can't hit shit anymore, My Aurora feels useless. Also control F to lock your cursor doesn't seem to work anymore?
 

Blizzard

Banned
I can imagine the official forums will have concern threads that read like this.

"*CONCERN* AC too hard?!"
Well, a real space battle would presumably have everything computer-controlled, and real WWII-style targeting would presumably be nearly impossible for ANYONE to hit at high speeds and huge distances.

So, presumably what people want is some mix between these two variants, and the right mix seems like a fair topic of discussion to me.
 
"I can't hit shit anymore, My Aurora feels useless. Also control F to lock your cursor doesn't seem to work anymore?"

They remapped the keybindings, you might have to switch between a few of the keyboard presets, I dunno if they have it mapped on any of them, though.
 
I can't hit shit anymore, My Aurora feels useless. Also control F to lock your cursor doesn't seem to work anymore?

I can't seem to find the binding for control+F because it doesn't work for me either, it's really lame, I have trouble flying with it unlocked.

EDIT: It's CTRL+C now.
 

Jinroh

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I'm not a big fan of the new hangars.

Also is it me or is the mouse behaving really weirdly in first person mode? It sometimes comes back slightly to its original position if I move my head in a direction.

I'm wondering if it's linked to the deficient v-sync of the cryengine. Is there any way to deactivate it?
 
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