Star Trek into Darkness |OT| Not very tired at all
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lol seriously. what a bunch of terrible writers. thank god disney already hired a screenwriter before jj abrams brought his hack squad in for star wars
ConradCervantes
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Very excited for this. I'm working extra hours this week so I can see the midnight showing and sleep in Friday morning.
I think if Star Trek II, IV, or VI causes people to go into comas, they have serious attention span issues. Maybe they should look into medication for it.
I am not very hyped for this.
I know I've said this before the buzz for this film is really muted here on GAF. While I don't expect the film to bomb or anything (it's tracking well apparently) there just doesn't seem to be the level of excitement that there was for the first film.
I wonder if the 'darker' tone is perhaps turning off some of the casual fans that the first films brought in or the fact that the film plays like a
which many aren't responding to.
Even though I wasn't a fan of the first film I will be seeing this ASAP as a hardcore sci-fi and Trek fan and besides I want to be able to wade into the debates about this film on GAF which I suspect are going to be more polarising that the first film.
Your awful pun only serves to make your opinion more wrong...., if such a thing were even possible.
*folds arms*
I wonder if the 'darker' tone is perhaps turning off some of the casual fans that the first films brought in or the fact that the film plays like a
remake of Wrath Of Khan
Even though I wasn't a fan of the first film I will be seeing this ASAP as a hardcore sci-fi and Trek fan and besides I want to be able to wade into the debates about this film on GAF which I suspect are going to be more polarising that the first film.
Your awful pun only serves to make your opinion more wrong...., if such a thing were even possible.
*folds arms*
The Librarian
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Agreed.
I think it's pretty natural and predictable that people are going to be more excited for a reboot of a popular franchise than they are going to be excited for a sequel to that reboot. Excluding of course The Dark Knight, which garnered more buzz than its predecessor simply due to it including the most popular villain of the series delivering an incredible performance.
It also doesn't help that they've been insanely secretive about Into Darkness....to the point where people don't know anything about the film besides the fact that there's some badass and a lot of stuff blows up. If nobody knew that Heath Ledger was the Joker and the trailers for Dark Knight were just a bunch of explosions and vague dialogue, I imagine the buzz there would have been pretty muted as well.
The Librarian
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Um, yeah, that's definitely a spoiler. The marketing team has kept it deliberately vague because it works with in the movie, and because the character hasn't been revealed it is considered a spoiler. Also (spoilers)
I think one of the reasons they kept it vague is because, if they told everyone who it is, people wouldn't be as hyped.
Throwaway123456789
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Just saw the movie at a private pre-screening today. Glorious, and I thought it was even better than the "first" one. Can't wait to see it again!
What must one person do with or to a man and/or woman to get a private pre-screening?
Throwaway123456789
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Messypandas
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Unspeakable things!
Got these as well!
Shitty picture, but it's an ice cube tray!
will they coldly go?
smokeandmirrors
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5.5/10
SCULLIBUNDO
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I think pretty much everyone figured that was a given when he signed on for Star Wars.
The Librarian
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YAY!!!!!!
Get it out of that hack's hands. Hopefully Orci and Kurtzman will move on too!SCULLIBUNDO
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YAY!!!!!!
You fool. I hope you're happy when Paramount bring Len Wiseman in and Giacchino bails so you can get fucking Marco Beltrami or some shit.
The Librarian
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I don't know anything about Len Wiseman, and Giacchino isn't anything special. He can't hold a candle to Jerry Goldsmith, and Dennis McCarthy who composed this.
WyndhamPrice
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Give it to Rian Johnson.
edit: And I've always been kind of lukewarm about Giacchino's Star Trek score. It wasn't really memorable outside of the first 10 minutes and Enterprising Young Men, which was repeated a bunch of times. Hopefully without the distractions of Up (his superior work in 2009) and LOST he found a way to channel more creative energy into this new film. The score from John Carter last year was pretty great.
This is still the best theme from anything Star Trek related. Dat Goldsmith.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Well why don't they get Goldsmith in? Oh that's right. He's dead.
Giacchino isn't on the level of Bernard Hermann either, but that doesn't really have anything to do with anything.
The Librarian
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Just putting his work in perspective. His work isn't anything special, so Star Trek isn't losing anything by him leaving.
SCULLIBUNDO
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It would be losing one of the best modern-day composers if Giacc left. And yes, his work is very special.
The Librarian
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If Giacchino is one of the best modern-day composers then that's kind of sad.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Are you actually familiar with Giacc's work, or do you simply not like his work on Trek?
The Librarian
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Just Star Trek and Up.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Explains a lot, anyway. You should check out a lot of his other work, like:
Ratatouille
John Carter
Speed Racer
LOST
The Incredibles
XANDER CAGE
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Hey, let's not have Marco Beltrami hating. 3:10 to Yuma's soundtrack was excellent.
WyndhamPrice
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And I, Robot and Knowing. Good work for the last two Die Hard films too.
SCULLIBUNDO
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The Librarian
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Just trying to get under your skin, Sculli. You're fun.
Based on his work on the last film I just don't think he knows how to nail the feeling of a Trek movie when it comes to music. I would've much preferred Joel Goldsmith, but he sadly passed away.
YAY!!!!!!
We are agreed.
YAY!!!!!!
You do realize it will still be an Abrams production right? Not going back to your beloved DS9 or whatever. Trek 3 will be another bad robot production with Pine, Quinto, & Saldana.
The Librarian
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Is there a point you're trying to make here? First thing's first: get competent directors and writers behind new Star Trek movies, whether they be in the new universe or the old universe.
You may not like Abrams but the idea that the guy who basically revolutionized the entire tv drama genre in the early 00's is a hack is insanely absurd. And he is revived the Trek franchise after it was left for dead after box-office failures and non-existent tv ratings.
You may not like his work but he has been far too significant of a force and changed the film and tv industry to be a "hack".
The Librarian
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Basically revolutionized TV drama? haha
SCULLIBUNDO
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Star Trek is more than competently directed. You might not like the direction of the story, but to say it's not competent or even good is some straight up shit.
Everything I know about this movie and read it should be very damn good....except for one thing, they do one thing that will be annoying to some because of how outlandish it is. Some might not care or just go with it...but it's the one thing that bothered me about what I read happens.
Aside from that, should be a good viewing experience.
Also everyone knows that Cumberbatch is really another parallel time/reality jumper who is Kirk's brother grown up after Starfleet was destroyed and wrecked from the happenings of said previous movie leaving humanity all but extinct like the Vulcans.
Duh.
Aside from that, should be a good viewing experience.
Also everyone knows that Cumberbatch is really another parallel time/reality jumper who is Kirk's brother grown up after Starfleet was destroyed and wrecked from the happenings of said previous movie leaving humanity all but extinct like the Vulcans.
Duh.
The pilot for Lost (which he wrote and directed) was extremely revolutionary and had a huge impact on the entire tv industry.
There is literally no way to deny that.
Yep. It's fine to not like Abrams or his films. But he is not a hack. He has his own personal vision and style and has had a big impact on the industry.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Thanks for that advice Savitar, now kindly stop posting shit like that.
You mean making a joke about who the character is ala several other posters?
Lord Panda
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Don't mind Abrams as much as I mind the trio of godawful writers that seem to follow him wherever he goes.
Orci, Kurtzmann, and Lindelof are among the worse things about Hollywood right now. Thank the Valar that they're not penning the new Star Wars script.
Orci, Kurtzmann, and Lindelof are among the worse things about Hollywood right now. Thank the Valar that they're not penning the new Star Wars script.
Not wherever he goes! They aren't writing his next movie.
The Librarian
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Competent directing includes story last time I checked.
In any of the TV shows I've watched, I've never seen any influence from Lost or have heard how it's impacted the industry in any significant manner. In terms of direction and storytelling, DS9 and B5 were more revolutionary than Lost and served to push the TV medium more. His work is hardly original, and when given the chance to make original work, he doesn't care to.
All three of them are terrible. Not a conclusion based only and literally on RT scores but just a general indicator.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/roberto_orci/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/1178770-alex_kurtzman/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/damon_lindelof/
The only time these guys don't stink it up is when JJ is producing and most likely telling them what he wants.
Lord Panda
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I remember breathing a sigh of relief when I found out that it was Michael Arndt in charge of the script.
Can you even imagine a Star Wars trilogy written by Orci, Kurtzmann, and Lindelof?
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