kunonabi
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Lightsaber Whip?
Female Jedi
Is this a fucking Gungan?
The Lightside space station looks like a Lightsaber? Lol
Oh yay, a Jedi with a shitty fuckin half and half haircut. So hip and fresh.
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Star Wars: The High Republic Announcement Trailer
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Oh yay, a Jedi with a shitty fuckin half and half haircut. So hip and fresh.
GreyHorace
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Yeeech. At least I can take solace that Chuck Wendig was fired. But that Claudia Gray woman was featured prominently in the trailer. If she's infected with the same Idpol thinking that a lot of these 'writers' seem to subscribe to, this new Star Wars venture will fail spectacularly.these new writers appear to have a lot of Reee in them. get ready for more of the same.
All these idiots seem to forget that Star Wars was built on that hideous white man fiction they profess to despise. Joseph Campbell's The Hero' of a Thousand Faces, the chambara films of Akira Kurosawa, the westerns of John Ford, Frank Herbert's Dune, the Flash Gordon movie serials and even Tolkien's Middle Earth. They think that inserting their stupid 'diversity' into an existing IP is a good enough substitute for storytelling and creating good characters The fact that they're surprised when that approach fails doesn't speak well of their intelligence.
Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni at least know what makes the IP work, which is why The Mandalorian is such a huge success. Sames goes for the Respawn team with Jedi Fallen Order.
I know what you mean and all but at the same time they always hang everything on the jedi.
They could do a whole movie almost star trek style where a ship of people go off to explore the universe and get into adventures. They could make a war style movie of 2 systems at war with each other and be about the people caught up in it from both sides. An entire planet of droids that become sentient are set out to expand to other systems and over take organic life. Even something like a movie in the vein of it's a mad mad mad mad world only with bounty hunters all after 1 high profile target and it's about them all trying to get to it before the others, or treasure hunters in place of bounty hunters. It's just a whole universe waiting for its varying stories to be told but it always comes back to jedi, empire and the republic.
I'm just bored of the same old hooks is all.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I agree with you. But I'm playing Devil's Advocate so to speak.
Rogue One sort of did that but it was still same old Empire.
Expanded Universe tried new things like Yuuzhon Vong (sp?). One old SW rpg adventure I really liked was Otherspace.
Taking place during the OT but there's a hyperdrive mishap and you and crew and some Imperial prisoners your transporting end up in another dimension. The enemy are aliens that created a semi-living ship you crawl through who want to end existence, Force and everything.
The aliens, the Charon, are even expanded on a lot more later in a mega-adventure called Darkstryder.
The authors of obscure rpg modules did a better job than Disney. Even Lucasfilm/Lucasarts was impressed with Darkstryder Campaign.
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Urprobablyright
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What's so wrong about diversity and representation? I mean, I'm not a crusader for it but, what's the point in keeping general society out of the scope? If we took away, like, political smartass line drops, the goal of these kind of movie franchises is to bring a snapshot of contemporary society and insert it into a fantasy setting.. that's where they build relatability and get us to invest..
Speaking of the Dahk Saide, thoughts on the new direction:
It's risky to try this, i guess, upping sticks and relocating the entire public perception of the series Is a pretty novel act. I get it they want to really leave the Skywalker setting alone, in that way I'm in agreement, but yeah the idea of turning it from a Saga about one family line into a plethora of disconnected stories and such doesn't seem like something I'll be able to relate to.. to be honest it sounds more like something George "more merchandise! More dots! Whelps left side!" Lucas would come up with.. maybe by 22 they'll establish a family worth following.
I think there was a healthy expanded universe for the old canon, from the 90s and such, heaps of novels and games like Jedi Knight, etc, so this has precedent. The difference might be that the new novels might have a kind of homogenised feeling of gold lit PG events played out by groups that are strictly structured to include the manifold social groups society has today. (I know I've written a lot about how it's reasonable for them to include diversity, but i don't think diversity is necessarily needed for, like, a lone wolf kind of storyline... Jedi Fallen Order is a good example of focused character pools being a possible in the New Way.
I'll be honest i thought this was going to be a new MMORPG for a large slice of the video.
So in summary, i guess I'm saying i hope there is room for grit, R Rated grit, and boundary pushing in this universe, and while I'm in favour of diversity i hope they're not afraid to have a lone dude or lone female if that's what the stories call for. Never be another Han Solo, but he shouldn't be impossible in this day and age~
That's what they usually do, even Lord of the Rings started out with a very relatable country England, lake district'y setting. It didn't have gay heroes and black people, but yeah at that time nobody thought about that stuff as being legitimate content for a fantasy novel...
... Pretty woman, famous movie from the early 90s, or late 80s or whatever.. Richard Gere is just, sickeningly, whatever you'd call it, smugly powerman'ly... and again I'm no crusader but the film just feels extremely dated. So too did a bunch of early 90s movies I've rewatched recently..
The scenes in Ace Ventura where Jim Carey is just absolutely, hysterically disgusted and full of self loathing after he realises he kissed a man.. when i was a kid i was like "lawwwll ikr" but now I'm just like "alright it's enough already we get it you were mislead and culturally assaulted". Also the way he really talks up the "[you're a pretty awful female, police chief]" angle, i know they're building it all up for when it turns out *spoiler everyone knows*, but it just grinds my gears.
It all feels really dated now, i mean, thinking about it, I'm not even sure i can still hold Ace Ventura to the same level of original humour as i think i usually did. Because those scenes are just so, like, dogshit unfunny.
So the whole point of the previous three paragraphs was to say, it's important for the new content to reflect society. Sure, that probably means there needs to be a character or group who would vote for Trump or seek to marginalize homosexuals and publicly targeted minorities (somewhat feels like these guys would be in the "cheap villain" category, like the mobs you fight in the early levels of a game) but they're just as called for in my philosophy. Indeed, it seems like a great disaster to kick off the hero's journey for all these people might be some blubbery bay tuna getting elected to leadership of the High Republic and undermining it's whole identity and cohesion, causing civil conflict and some groups turning to the DAAHK SAIIIDE~
... Pretty woman, famous movie from the early 90s, or late 80s or whatever.. Richard Gere is just, sickeningly, whatever you'd call it, smugly powerman'ly... and again I'm no crusader but the film just feels extremely dated. So too did a bunch of early 90s movies I've rewatched recently..
The scenes in Ace Ventura where Jim Carey is just absolutely, hysterically disgusted and full of self loathing after he realises he kissed a man.. when i was a kid i was like "lawwwll ikr" but now I'm just like "alright it's enough already we get it you were mislead and culturally assaulted". Also the way he really talks up the "[you're a pretty awful female, police chief]" angle, i know they're building it all up for when it turns out *spoiler everyone knows*, but it just grinds my gears.
It all feels really dated now, i mean, thinking about it, I'm not even sure i can still hold Ace Ventura to the same level of original humour as i think i usually did. Because those scenes are just so, like, dogshit unfunny.
So the whole point of the previous three paragraphs was to say, it's important for the new content to reflect society. Sure, that probably means there needs to be a character or group who would vote for Trump or seek to marginalize homosexuals and publicly targeted minorities (somewhat feels like these guys would be in the "cheap villain" category, like the mobs you fight in the early levels of a game) but they're just as called for in my philosophy. Indeed, it seems like a great disaster to kick off the hero's journey for all these people might be some blubbery bay tuna getting elected to leadership of the High Republic and undermining it's whole identity and cohesion, causing civil conflict and some groups turning to the DAAHK SAIIIDE~
Speaking of the Dahk Saide, thoughts on the new direction:
It's risky to try this, i guess, upping sticks and relocating the entire public perception of the series Is a pretty novel act. I get it they want to really leave the Skywalker setting alone, in that way I'm in agreement, but yeah the idea of turning it from a Saga about one family line into a plethora of disconnected stories and such doesn't seem like something I'll be able to relate to.. to be honest it sounds more like something George "more merchandise! More dots! Whelps left side!" Lucas would come up with.. maybe by 22 they'll establish a family worth following.
I think there was a healthy expanded universe for the old canon, from the 90s and such, heaps of novels and games like Jedi Knight, etc, so this has precedent. The difference might be that the new novels might have a kind of homogenised feeling of gold lit PG events played out by groups that are strictly structured to include the manifold social groups society has today. (I know I've written a lot about how it's reasonable for them to include diversity, but i don't think diversity is necessarily needed for, like, a lone wolf kind of storyline... Jedi Fallen Order is a good example of focused character pools being a possible in the New Way.
I'll be honest i thought this was going to be a new MMORPG for a large slice of the video.
So in summary, i guess I'm saying i hope there is room for grit, R Rated grit, and boundary pushing in this universe, and while I'm in favour of diversity i hope they're not afraid to have a lone dude or lone female if that's what the stories call for. Never be another Han Solo, but he shouldn't be impossible in this day and age~
Just saying that one of the key features of a lot of the Imperial Guard novel series in WH40K - arguably the best subject material for war novels, though inquisitor books are also great and, incidentally, also feature the following - is that the Imperial Guard include women in armies and command structures, but it doesn't feel forced and they don't feel shoehorned. It's a pretty decent example of how to go about it. Examples include the Tanith 1st and Only, and Caiphas Cain's oftentime commander and badass inquisitor girlfriend.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I think it's just Disney shoehorning it in with cringe. Rise of Skywalker, Onward and upcoming Eternals all have this, "hey look at this gay person or couple!" shoving it in your face like that guy on the episode of Family Guy who literally kept shoving his wallet pics of his kids in Peter's face.
Plus a lot of these people behind these stories are outspoken, cringey far-left types who call everyone right of Che a Nazi and use multiple blocklists on Twitter.
ExpandKong
Banned
DINOSAURS!
On the one hand DIVERSITY AND REPRESENTATION is a bullet point
On the other hand DINOSAURS is higher on the list than DIVERSITY AND REPRESENTATION
Is Disney punishing people for trying to like Star Wars still?
On the one hand DIVERSITY AND REPRESENTATION is a bullet point
On the other hand DINOSAURS is higher on the list than DIVERSITY AND REPRESENTATION
Is Disney punishing people for trying to like Star Wars still?
Urprobablyright
Banned
Yeah i can relate to that, such ham fisted stuff can be really transparent.
Filth
Member
i swear to god. i watched the trailer .... paused this moment.... screenshoted and was about to red circle this exact thing and you were like 5-6 posts in. god bless you
Handel
Member
Luke wins in ROTJ by choosing pacifism, Star Wars isn't a pro-war series thematically.
ExpandKong
Banned
I mean he beat the shit out of his own dad right before that while his friends were blowing up a shield generator so his other friends could blow up a superweapon but
Handel
Member
Which he realized is exactly what the Emperor wanted, for him to give in to the dark side.I mean he beat the shit out of his own dad right before that while his friends were blowing up a shield generator so his other friends could blow up a superweapon but
If this is the basic comprehension levels of people watching SW's, no wonder they hated TLJ
ExpandKong
Banned
Which he realized is exactly what the Emperor wanted, for him to give in to the dark side.
If this is the basic comprehension levels of people watching SW's, no wonder they hated TLJ
Oh boy if you’re using “hated TLJ” as an insult then sorry I’m definitely not drunk enough to stoop low enough to debate someone of your intelligence sorry
King of Foxes
Banned
Diversity over relatable characters.
Handel
Member
Didn't know I was talking to a Lizardfolk
ExpandKong
Banned
Didn't know I was talking to a Lizardfolk
wtf does this mean lol
TLJ was bad. It didn’t even stick to its own rules let alone the rules Star Wars established 40 years before it came out.
This isn’t news
Stiflers Mom
Banned
A movie about a space chase where ships fall behind because they ran out of fuel.If this is the basic comprehension levels of people watching SW's, no wonder they hated TLJ
Yeah, but we are the dumb ones here..
MayauMiao
Member
Which is why its the weakest of the originals.
Handel
Member
Lizardfolk as a society shun intelligence.
People consider it the weakest because of the things outside of the third act. The third act,especially the throne room scenes, is considered the best in the franchise.
Bert Big Balls
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Herkily-Jerkily!I guess after the sequel trilogy ended with a whimper, Disney is now being careful with the brand. So they're going the publishing route to gauge how Star Wars fans will react to this new setting and see if it's viable for a new movie or tv show.
This High Republic setting is intriguing, but I'm not one to invest on Star Wars printed media. Let me know if they come up with a movie, tv show or even a videogame.
Oh, and Disney. If you want this thing to succeed, don't cheap out and hire shitty writers like Chuck Wendig.
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slugbahr
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You mean the rip-off of Hoth. But with salt? AT walkers and mini death stars.
"We don't win by fighting evil"?
The throne room fight?
Yeah, we watch SW cos it's anti-war.
There is nothing about TLJ that was intelligent.
Stop defending a shitty movie.
1. You should get over Ace Ventura
2. The reason people balk at crap like 'representation/diversity" is because it's a sign about what the people writing this crap actually prioritize. Not about telling a good, pulpy space story or detailing an adventure, but using this franchise as a platform to bleat their personal opinions/politics. It's always comes off as predictable and hamfisted.
ExpandKong
Banned
Oh man you’re actually one of those people who think liking TLJ makes you smarter than everyone who didn’t? I’ve heard of you but honestly did not think such people really existed.
TLJ was not a smart movie. TLJ was not a good movie. The only good parts of Rise of Skywalker were the ones JJ Abrams used to call Rian Johnson an asshole.
Handel
Member
I think that a good portion of people that hate TLJ are rather stupid, at least when it comes to comprehending what are generally simple movies. I also think many of them misunderstand the original trilogy, and this is a root factor to their hate of TLJ.
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slugbahr
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Please don't presume to understand why I hate TLJ. Especially by labelling me as stupid. Whatever my IQ, occupation, schooling, etc may be, my opinion of a movie is my own, and I am entitled to it.
You can like whatever you like, and I'll do the same. If I am stupid to do so, there is absolutely no reason that wouldn't apply to you.
The world is a diverse place. I'm sure that 10 random people who would be of similar "intelligence" would still have 10 different opinions on a range of subjects. One of them calling at least another of them stupid for having a different opinion would be to label themselves stupid.
buizel
Banned
'chaos agents' 'university' 'arthurian legends/
WTF IS THIS SHITE
dinosaurs. high republic. wow definately legit brain storming here guys
Urprobablyright
Banned
I don't think i should man, i mean, it's almost 30 years old, all my opinions on it are entirely my own, it was part of my nice sunny little leaguer 90s childhood, it's now been irreparably undermined in my view by its dated content and, well, it's forever that way, now. I mean i don't lose sleep or pull out hair about it, so no harm done~
I don't think using films as platforms for social change or new ideas is anything new. I think film has a pretty proud tradition of that.
EDIT: For the record i agree the priorities evident in that whiteboard list are annoyingly uninventive, including the speed at which they all said "diversity!" . I guess my text here supports that point but maybe not clearly enough.
This is probably not the most popular view, but just because it's kind of a fad among certain types of gamers and other social groups to be brazenly against anything that is, like, clearly the friendly path to take for one's fellow man doesn't mean having this stuff in movies and games is anything unprecedented or ~dastardly~...
Look, i couldn't tell you the name of a single LGBT rights person, I'm entirely disconnected from the mainstream debate, i live my own life here in Japan, i treat my heterosexual girlfriend with the giant Western wang poundings she deserves, and in my life these issues mean fuck all to my daily routine. The thing is, the difference, is that i just choose to be positive about that and not hold the differences between us all against big red crosshair targeted groups. I'm not looking for someone to blame, I'm looking for fun games and decent movies. I mean I'm sure plenty of good old boy nincompoops thought black characters were being shoved down their throats in the 70s-90s~ doesn't mean they had any solid theoretical ground to stand on...
For people who have such loudly verbalised problems with liberal agendas being shoved down throats, there are an awful lot of basically identical, identically loud or louder, opposing agendas getting slung around like so much horseshit~ it's all just begging for a bit of self awareness and respect for decency imo~
Look, i couldn't tell you the name of a single LGBT rights person, I'm entirely disconnected from the mainstream debate, i live my own life here in Japan, i treat my heterosexual girlfriend with the giant Western wang poundings she deserves, and in my life these issues mean fuck all to my daily routine. The thing is, the difference, is that i just choose to be positive about that and not hold the differences between us all against big red crosshair targeted groups. I'm not looking for someone to blame, I'm looking for fun games and decent movies. I mean I'm sure plenty of good old boy nincompoops thought black characters were being shoved down their throats in the 70s-90s~ doesn't mean they had any solid theoretical ground to stand on...
For people who have such loudly verbalised problems with liberal agendas being shoved down throats, there are an awful lot of basically identical, identically loud or louder, opposing agendas getting slung around like so much horseshit~ it's all just begging for a bit of self awareness and respect for decency imo~
I will say that, for sure, i don't appreciate any movie or game plot being obviously bent to accommodate this kind of stuff. Clumsy application is unacceptable to me, and that's separate from my unfashionably peaceful views on people who are hugely different to me. I'll only say that i think shit like MMA innuendo, game of thrones style gore and grittiness, hbo tits and other such stuff is equally obvious construction and is equally annoying to me. If these movies suck, I'll be the first to say they do. And if it's because the main characters are unbalanced and contrived, I'll say as much to that, too.
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Shizumapower
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Hopefully they will include political debates as well.
As long as I feel bad about myself. That's my entertainment.
SurprisedPikachu
Member
Everything about this screams wannabe Harry Potter.
But yeah, forced diversity is not diversity.
MilkyJoe
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When it's shoved in your face and destroying your favourite movies it becomes a problem.
GeorgioCostanzaX
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Lightsaber Whip?
Female Jedi
Is this a fucking Gungan?
The Lightside space station looks like a Lightsaber? Lol
Would be kind of funny if this is basically the “good guys’” Death Star. How else are you sure all the Sith have been extinct for a millennia am i right?
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Javthusiast
Banned
The only reason it's called high republic is ,cause that writers room sat there smoking blunts while coming up with ideas of the most woke shit they can put into this new project.
ExpandKong
Banned
Right. Hey remember when Rose and Finn set a bunch of animals free and felt real great about themselves while the slave children they left behind in the stalls were probably getting their asses beaten for letting them get away?
Remember how Benicio Del Toro's character was just hanging out in a jail cell and just happened to be in the one right next to Finn and Rose? Man that was convenient.
Remember when Rose stops Finn from destroying the battering ram cannon and tells him "That's how we're gonna win. Not fighting what we hate. Saving what we love," while the only thing protecting everyone they love from certain death is destroyed in the background because of her actions?
Remember when Luke Skywalker, who risked everything to turn the mass murdering Darth Vader back to the light, had a bad dream about his nephew and very nearly murdered him in his sleep?
Remember how that one dude rubbed his finger on the ground and licked it and said "Salt" to nobody in particular and for no reason at all other than for the audience to know that the ground was salt because I guess we needed to know that?
Remember when Holdo had a plan the entire time and it was a plan that Poe agreed with when he finally learned it but she kept it from him for no good reason even up to the point where he organizes a mutiny against her?
Remember when Finn and Rose get off the ship and away to another planet without a problem but nobody else bothers to do this?
I dunno maybe I'm just not big brained enough to understand any of this I'm just dumb guy
iconmaster
Banned
This isn't quite right. Luke's choice was to not give into his personal anger and desire for revenge. That's a far cry from being opposed to war or violence of any kind. We can each of us seek to the other cheek when only our own reputation or satisfaction is at stake, while still expecting governments to defend their citizens... even violently when needed.
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On topic: I hate everything about this.
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Javthusiast
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to try bring a bit of positivity here (sorry)
i really like
reminds me of ralph mcquarrie stylings, and i feel these guys would fit into that world (at least the woman character)
Sure beats anything done in the disney sequel trilogy. We had none of these amazing city designs, cause we had to have the standard barren planets and tatooine copies.
NickFire
Member
Something tells me they figured they could shoe horn their political narratives into this timeline while making the fans happy by including Yoda. But yeah, this sounds like absolute shit already just from the timeline. Sith v Jedi are what we want, and this was not a period where the Sith were a threat based on established lore. Its not hard. Either go back further, or go forward after 9.
Javthusiast
Banned
They are gonna create some stupid villains for the jedi to fight that then magically disappear before the timeline of the movies.
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NickFire
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I know the pre-Disney books are not official cannon, but if they officially retcon the Darth Plagueis book by making this override it then I am finally and officially done with Star Wars. Rule of 2 endured until Maul, and the Sith stayed in the shadows until Anakin spilled the beans on Palpatine. If that changes that is fucked up.
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Furlong
Banned
One of the bullet points on that board is "Sith Empire".
NickFire
Member
Unreal. This settles it. President Trump --> its time to start breaking up some monopolies. Please start with Disney. Please.
buizel
Banned
I
For some reason I really like this one. Ralph mcquarrie art is so good, I adore his oldy OG star wars era stuff
Urprobablyright
Banned
Destroying the legacy of your favourite movies*
Absolutely
How fucking awful was The Hobbit ey v_v
MilkyJoe
Member
Never watched it, the Rings were boring enough.
VertigoOA
Banned
Couldn’t give a fuck anymore other than to driveby with the hard truth and obvious by saying “Disney wars is fucking trash.”
It ended with George. We’re finally getting the Old Republic in bastardized Disney form and... couldn’t give a shit.
He sold it to white slavers...
It ended with George. We’re finally getting the Old Republic in bastardized Disney form and... couldn’t give a shit.
He sold it to white slavers...
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Southern Gentleman
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The Hobbit was ridiculous, the Star Wars prequels were literally better.
Urprobablyright
Banned
He was probably a green version of Iron Chef America Chairman Dude with a topknot brah
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