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I WANT BETA INVITE

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[Mr. Luchador]

My excitement has seriously died down since yesterday when I pre-ordered it. Suddenly not too sure about this game. I suppose the monthly fee will be the tipping point if its £10 a month or over it can go to hell, consider the price point for the game base.

 

[MaddenNFL64]

My excitement has seriously died down since yesterday when I pre-ordered it. Suddenly not too sure about this game. I suppose the monthly fee will be the tipping point if its £10 a month or over it can go to hell, consider the price point for the game base.

You'll have a month to figure out if you like it, so not so bad.

 

[BattleMonkey]

The 501st is going to have lots of new costume ideas to work with

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

What are the Gaf (US) clans? Can I join clans now?

 

[oktarb]

Oddly watching all the vids make me miss some things from Galaxies. I loved running a drone shop and had a blast training giant critters.

Of course the game was horribly broken and then they fucked it all up in expansions.

 

[Mr. Luchador]

You'll have a month to figure out if you like it, so not so bad.

I guess so, I just have so much fear going into this game. Suppose I best join the Imperial side, if I get it. I fear that the community will be terrible, and just be transplanted straight from the worst side of World of Warcraft only ten times worse.

Having to sit through years of class balances again. That guy's post about the classes potentially not even mattering is worrying too, as that's how WoW is at the moment! Everyone can basically do everything now.

Oddly watching all the vids make me miss some things from Galaxies. I loved running a drone shop and had a blast training giant critters.

Of course the game was horribly broken and then they fucked it all up in expansions.

Yeah, I miss the RPing aspect of SWG. Kanomin's Droids was a shop with a good reputation! A Role Play server would be great.

 

[Interfectum]

I guess so, I just have so much fear going into this game. Suppose I best join the Imperial side, if I get it. I fear that the community will be terrible, and just be transplanted straight from the worst side of World of Warcraft only ten times worse.

Having to sit through years of class balances again. That guy's post about the classes potentially not even mattering is worrying too, as that's how WoW is at the moment! Everyone can basically do everything now.

You worry too much. Just play and enjoy the game for what it is. When you stop enjoying it, un-sub.

 

[Mr. Luchador]

I wouldn't worry so much if EA hadn't asked for £40 for the game +a yet unannounced monthly fee. Base price point is too high for an MMO, not that anyone will care.

 

[Rflagg]

What are the Gaf (US) clans? Can I join clans now?

Links are in the op with the regions listed. I am sure they let all members of gaf in.

 

[kodt]

Pre-ordered collectors edition. I think spending that much isn't the best idea but I always regretted not getting the WoW Collectors editions b/c of the unique items and years later it was too expensive to buy sealed copies.

Anyway I was digging through some old games yesterday and found my Star Wars Galaxies Beta disks. Anyone know if these are rare or if anyone would want them?

 

[MaddenNFL64]

I wouldn't worry so much if EA hadn't asked for £40 for the game +a yet unannounced monthly fee. Base price point is too high for an MMO, not that anyone will care.

On your community point, it could be pretty damn bad. This fanbase is too rabid, I feel. I worry it will be filled with mouth breathing idiots, butwhatcanyado.

On the AC respec worries, I will only bitch & moan further if the "restrictions" aren't enough that people just switch whenever they please. it should be only for people who fucked up & want to try the other one, imo.

 

[MisterAnderson]

Has no one preordered at retail? Would be a big help if someone knew if there was any issues getting the keys from a retail preorder, specifically best buy since I get a discount there.

 

[Emitan]

WTF it just keeps adding more. I only tried to order twice. I still have the $85 charge on my account and only the physical CE is on my account, not the digital version

 

[SafetyFirst]

Made my pre-order for Star Wars: The Old Republic Collector's Edition yesterday from Amazon.

My girlfriend had a few choice words about the price of the game...but I won't let that put a damper on my excitement.

 

[DrBo42]

Glad I avoided Origin. Yikes.

 

[Interfectum]

WTF it just keeps adding more. I only tried to order twice. I still have the $85 charge on my account and only the physical CE is on my account, not the digital version

 

[Weenerz]

Made my pre-order for Star Wars: The Old Republic Collector's Edition yesterday from Amazon.

My girlfriend had a few choice words about the price of the game...but I won't let that put a damper on my excitement.

Tell her they didn't charge yet, and you can save up

 

[HarryDemeanor]

So I decided to switch out my SE preorder for a CE and now I have to figure out a way to remove the SE preorder key to switch with my new CE preorder key.

 

[MessieurCouchon]

So I decided to switch out my SE preorder for a CE and now I have to figure out a way to remove the SE preorder key to switch with my new CE preorder key.

You can either make a new account or phone up Origin's customer support.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

You can either make a new account or phone up Origin's customer support.

Looks like I'll be calling customer support then.

 

[Emitan]

Origin.com's customer service won't even let me log in. This is the shittiest program in the world.

 

[CoilShot]

Origin.com's customer service won't even let me log in. This is the shittiest program in the world.

Just call them. The Origin site is garbage.

Heres the information:

EA Games
(866)-543-5435

Option 1 for Origin/Star wars old republic

 

[MaddenNFL64]

lmao holy shit, this is like Origins stress test. Customer support is gonna get earraped by customers until they fix this shit.

 

[Emitan]

If EA decides to never delete the pre-order key assigned to my account then everything is fine. I really don't want to actually contact support because of this. Considering how fucking awful the service is I don't want them to make any changes to my account as long as things are sort of OK right now.

 

[CoilShot]

If EA decides to never delete the pre-order key assigned to my account then everything is fine. I really don't want to actually contact support because of this. Considering how fucking awful the service is I don't want them to make any changes to my account as long as things are sort of OK right now.

Well actually the customer service is amazing. I ask to cancel my order with them and it was done in 30 seconds tops. No questions asked.

 

[Emitan]

The problem is I currently have the physical $150 Collector's Edition pre-order key assigned to my account. I've canceled that pre-order with Amazon and EA says if I do that they'll remove that pre-order key from my account. The real issues are that I never got a normal edition key from Amazon and that I think my Origin Digital CE order is still processing. If the Digital CE goes through, great. If it doesn't I'll just use the retail version from Amazon. But I want the early access having the code gives and the only code I have is supposed to be removed.

 

[gatti-man]

Made my pre-order for Star Wars: The Old Republic Collector's Edition yesterday from Amazon.

My girlfriend had a few choice words about the price of the game...but I won't let that put a damper on my excitement.

Safely guarded secret at my house. My gf will never know (hopefully)

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Applied to the Empire Guild!

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

I ordered the CE from Origin when it went live; but then got it from Amazon since there's no tax and free shipping.

Canceled yesterday morning, and there's STILL a $170 hold on my account.

I know everyone says "well that must be your bank"; but most every hold I've ever had on this account has cleared in minutes... and always less than a full day. We're quickly approaching 72 hours on this EA hold.

Ugh.

 

[MisterNugNug]

Applied to the Empire Guild!

The Best Guild.

 

[gatti-man]

I ordered the CE from Origin when it went live; but then got it from Amazon since there's no tax and free shipping.

Canceled yesterday morning, and there's STILL a $170 hold on my account.

I know everyone says "well that must be your bank"; but most every hold I've ever had on this account has cleared in minutes... and always less than a full day. We're quickly approaching 72 hours on this EA hold.

Ugh.

holds can take up to three days. Call your bank if its cramping your style.

 

[yellow submarine]

I saw the pvp video, and wasn't terribly impressed. Yeah, the lightsaber whirling looked cool and the sounds were great. But the bodies disappared immediately after death. Additionaly, the environment looked very low poly, almost like WoW, but without the awesome texture work present in WoW. Also, the movement of the player models looked "off", not sure why.

It would have taken a LOT for me to come back to an MMO after what WoW did to me. I think Star Wars and Warhammer40k are the only two IPs that would convince me to invest that much time into something ever again.

I don't think this one is it, so far. Which is probably a good thing for me! /whew

 

[Xamdou]

There has to be a way to upgrade from a standard or digital deluxe to the collectors edition. EA making it too hard for customers to do so.

 

[DrBo42]

The Best Guild.

You will be hunted and put down like the Imperial scum you are.

 

[Blackface]

So basically it's like having one person in your guild with a couple alts but without the shitty grinding through the same stuff they just did on their other character?

Except those "alts" are his main. Meaning any type of competitive PVP/PVE or raiding environment is immediately going to cut you off from 90 percent of your spec's. Everyone will be the same thing.

Not allowing a respec of Advanced Classes gave variety. Not just in the look of toons, but in the overall player-base. If dual wield Gunslinger is the highest DPS in the game, then you will NEVER EVER find a scoundrel. It's hard enough finding certain specs as it is WITHOUT being allowed to changed AC's. When you can, everyone will be the same thing.

Like I said before, It's like allowing a mage to switch between a Warlock and elemental shaman. But still keep all the mages original items, money etc., If this was allowed in WoW, you would never see elemental shaman. Hell, you would even see less Warlocks. A lot of what keep people locked into a class is their "love" for it and fact they invested so much time in it. Guilds recruit them knowing what they are, and knowing they can't change. If you were trying to get in a raiding guild and they knew you could be a mage, they wouldn't recruit you as a gimp spec. Much like nobody recruits frost mages for PVE.

Like I said, unless you played the game, you don't know how dumb this decision is. Oh well.

 

[Blackface]

I saw the pvp video, and wasn't terribly impressed. Yeah, the lightsaber whirling looked cool and the sounds were great. But the bodies disappared immediately after death. Additionaly, the environment looked very low poly, almost like WoW, but without the awesome texture work present in WoW. Also, the movement of the player models looked "off", not sure why.

It would have taken a LOT for me to come back to an MMO after what WoW did to me. I think Star Wars and Warhammer40k are the only two IPs that would convince me to invest that much time into something ever again.

I don't think this one is it, so far. Which is probably a good thing for me! /whew

I don't know what was at SDCC, but this isn't the case in beta (was the case). Bodies did not disappear. It was about a million times more visually impressive then World of Warcraft and everything sync'd up well until the servers lagged.

 

[CoilShot]

I don't know what was at SDCC, but this isn't the case in beta (was the case). Bodies did not disappear. It was about a million times more visually impressive then World of Warcraft and everything sync'd up well until the servers lagged.

Hey Blackface are you going to be updating the OP soon?

 

[FloppyDelux]

preordered yesterday(amazon CE) and applied applied for the Empire Guild today.

 

[gatti-man]

I saw the pvp video, and wasn't terribly impressed. Yeah, the lightsaber whirling looked cool and the sounds were great. But the bodies disappared immediately after death. Additionaly, the environment looked very low poly, almost like WoW, but without the awesome texture work present in WoW. Also, the movement of the player models looked "off", not sure why.

It would have taken a LOT for me to come back to an MMO after what WoW did to me. I think Star Wars and Warhammer40k are the only two IPs that would convince me to invest that much time into something ever again.

I don't think this one is it, so far. Which is probably a good thing for me! /whew

No. Oh my goodness no.

 

[Emitan]

If dual wield Gunslinger is the highest DPS in the game, then you will NEVER EVER find a scoundrel.

Wouldn't this be the case regardless of whether you could respec to another AC or not?

 

[DrBo42]

Except those "alts" are his main. Meaning any type of competitive PVP/PVE or raiding environment is immediately going to cut you off from 90 percent of your spec's. Everyone will be the same thing.

Not allowing a respec of Advanced Classes gave variety. Not just in the look of toons, but in the overall player-base. If dual wield Gunslinger is the highest DPS in the game, then you will NEVER EVER find a scoundrel. It's hard enough finding certain specs as it is WITHOUT being allowed to changed AC's. When you can, everyone will be the same thing.

Like I said before, It's like allowing a mage to switch between a Warlock and elemental shaman. But still keep all the mages original items, money etc., If this was allowed in WoW, you would never see elemental shaman. Hell, you would even see less Warlocks. A lot of what keep people locked into a class is their "love" for it and fact they invested so much time in it. Guilds recruit them knowing what they are, and knowing they can't change. If you were trying to get in a raiding guild and they knew you could be a mage, they wouldn't recruit you as a gimp spec. Much like nobody recruits frost mages for PVE.

Like I said, unless you played the game, you don't know how dumb this decision is. Oh well.

If it's getting to a point where certain AC's are useless, Bioware will hopefully take notice and make necessary changes. They should learn from Blizzard's mistakes and not cater to the bitching of children on their forums and instead take a logical look at what needs to be done.

 

[flyinpiranha]

Except those "alts" are his main. Meaning any type of competitive PVP/PVE or raiding environment is immediately going to cut you off from 90 percent of your spec's. Everyone will be the same thing.

Not allowing a respec of Advanced Classes gave variety. Not just in the look of toons, but in the overall player-base. If dual wield Gunslinger is the highest DPS in the game, then you will NEVER EVER find a scoundrel. It's hard enough finding certain specs as it is WITHOUT being allowed to changed AC's. When you can, everyone will be the same thing.

Like I said before, It's like allowing a mage to switch between a Warlock and elemental shaman. But still keep all the mages original items, money etc., If this was allowed in WoW, you would never see elemental shaman. Hell, you would even see less Warlocks. A lot of what keep people locked into a class is their "love" for it and fact they invested so much time in it. Guilds recruit them knowing what they are, and knowing they can't change. If you were trying to get in a raiding guild and they knew you could be a mage, they wouldn't recruit you as a gimp spec. Much like nobody recruits frost mages for PVE.

Like I said, unless you played the game, you don't know how dumb this decision is. Oh well.

Yeah, I guess I just haven't played so I wouldn't know. All I know is every MMO I've played (which honestly has only been since about 2002ish) I wish they had something like this implemented.

I think it's more on the Developers to balance classes than on the userbase to be stuck in an inefficient role. If in your example Ele Shammies and Locks and Mages were all even but with different tricks it would be based on aesthetics, not FOTM re-rolls ... which this just seems to make a little bit easier without actually solving the root problem which is class imbalance.

 

[Woorloog]

If it's getting to a point where certain AC's are useless, Bioware will hopefully take notice and make necessary changes. They should learn from Blizzard's mistakes and not cater to the bitching of children on their forums and instead take a logical look at what needs to be done.

Logical look will be taken on the things people bitch about. (Causing people to bitch more...)

 

[ace22b]

The problem is I currently have the physical $150 Collector's Edition pre-order key assigned to my account. I've canceled that pre-order with Amazon and EA says if I do that they'll remove that pre-order key from my account. The real issues are that I never got a normal edition key from Amazon and that I think my Origin Digital CE order is still processing. If the Digital CE goes through, great. If it doesn't I'll just use the retail version from Amazon. But I want the early access having the code gives and the only code I have is supposed to be removed.

When I cancelled my CE order and replaced it with a regular order, Amazon sent me a 2nd code that I can't enter since I already entered the first code.

 

[gatti-man]

Except those "alts" are his main. Meaning any type of competitive PVP/PVE or raiding environment is immediately going to cut you off from 90 percent of your spec's. Everyone will be the same thing.

Not allowing a respec of Advanced Classes gave variety. Not just in the look of toons, but in the overall player-base. If dual wield Gunslinger is the highest DPS in the game, then you will NEVER EVER find a scoundrel. It's hard enough finding certain specs as it is WITHOUT being allowed to changed AC's. When you can, everyone will be the same thing.

Like I said before, It's like allowing a mage to switch between a Warlock and elemental shaman. But still keep all the mages original items, money etc., If this was allowed in WoW, you would never see elemental shaman. Hell, you would even see less Warlocks. A lot of what keep people locked into a class is their "love" for it and fact they invested so much time in it. Guilds recruit them knowing what they are, and knowing they can't change. If you were trying to get in a raiding guild and they knew you could be a mage, they wouldn't recruit you as a gimp spec. Much like nobody recruits frost mages for PVE.

Like I said, unless you played the game, you don't know how dumb this decision is. Oh well.

I disagree, especially at first. You are looking at this through jaded wow glasses. People play what they want to play. Not everyone cares about leet dps etc. It really is only the top people that do. Saying you arent in the beta so you wouldnt understand for this specific argument doesnt really hold water. At this point we all have a good idea of the skill trees. I can tell you right now I will use the respec but not bc I want to be uber leet copy cat of the month but because switching builds keeps the game fresh.

A great example is in vanilla wow I was a Paladin and of course we were overpowered. Then we got nerfed into the ground and my toon became worthles over night. So I had to start over. If this happens in TOR I can respec to something atleast useful so I can join groups/raids without being dead weight.

To me respecs suck for those who want to spend 15+ hours a week playing a game but for those of us we play maybe 10 hours or less a week (the casuals) its great and allows us to enjoy the game without having to deal with all the micro BS and time syncing.

 

[Won]

Classes are an outdated concept anyway. The more freedom a player has on his character the better.

 

[Woorloog]

To me respecs suck for those who want to spend 15+ hours a week playing a game but for those of us we play maybe 10 hours or less a week (the casuals) its great and allows us to enjoy the game without having to deal with all the micro BS and time syncing.

I will probably play over 15 hours a week and respecs don't matter to me. If i want to raid, i look for a guild that allows me to use what i want, others get a "fuck you" from me.
But then i'm arguably a casual who plays a lot...
Respeccing is fine, people who demand certain spec are not. Devs who can't balance things are not fine either...

 

[Woorloog]

Classes are an outdated concept anyway. The more freedom a player has on his character the better.

I wouldn't say they're outdated, they're just different. Classes give the game certain focus, arguably free skill/talent advancement causes more balance problems...
Both class and classless games can be fun and balanced. Battlefield wouldn't be what it is without classes IMO. Halo with classes would not be Halo (Halo Battlefield would be fun...)

I do admit that i prefer classless RPGs to ones with classes.

EDIT yeah right, i managed to double post. Oh well new page.
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To me respecs suck for those who want to spend 15+ hours a week playing a game but for those of us we play maybe 10 hours or less a week (the casuals) its great and allows us to enjoy the game without having to deal with all the micro BS and time syncing.

I will probably play over 15 hours a week and respecs don't matter to me. If i want to raid, i look for a guild that allows me to use what i want, others get a "fuck you" from me.
But then i'm arguably a casual who plays a lot...
Respeccing is fine, people who demand certain spec are not. Devs who can't balance things are not fine either...

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

WTF it just keeps adding more. I only tried to order twice. I still have the $85 charge on my account and only the physical CE is on my account, not the digital version

Pray they don't alter the deal any further.