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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]
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Yeah I'm trying to decide if I even want to bother with the box. Collectors editions are cool, but I can't really afford to spend $150 on it.Morn said:
The WoW boxes were always neat to look at, but after 10 minutes it goes in my closet and just takes up space. I apparently already have an Origin account from when I bought Mass Effect 2 DLC on PC.
Any word on the autheticators? Are they going to make a smart phone app or is it just the dongle? I know the CE comes with one, but any word on separate purchases?
Interfectum
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any guesses on what the most popular class will be out the gate? I'm thinking Sith Warrior.
Dinosaur Tamer
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ciaossu said:
They are in different advanced classes though and while switching them seems to be possible to some extend, it will not be as easy as switching talent speccs. So keep that in mind.
MaddenNFL64
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Dinosaur Tamer said:
They did hint they might even stop you from being able to switch by level 20.
If they do that, any fears I had of some dude spending 8 million credits to switch at level 50, like it was chump change, will be squashed. Please do this bioware. Because any credit gate is just not gonna work down the road.
MaddenNFL64
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border said:
Doesn't matter what sku you choose, they all get the same early access. The date you get in is based on when you redeem your pre-order code.
Dinosaur Tamer
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According to Bioware, they wanted to limit the Early Access, but at the same time they felt like everyone who pre-ordered should receive a bonus. That's why they limited pre-orders - including the digital ones.
Oh, really? Is that being done to build hype and feel 'exclusive'? Or possibly to keep server strain low so that the launch goes really smoothly.Morn said:
I figured they'd just generate more keys when they ones they had ran out.
Ah, I understand. Do I get to keep a character I make with early access or is it like a test realm?Dinosaur Tamer said:
So are you a european resident ciaossu? We need some more consulars for our awesome NeoGAF guild 
On the note of the digital deluxe edition and the likeliness of getting one, it has to do with the fact that it is limited. Just like the collectors edition.
Only the standard edition has an unlimited supply IIRC. Guess they wanna make the speeder and other digital goodies a bit more special.
On the note of the digital deluxe edition and the likeliness of getting one, it has to do with the fact that it is limited. Just like the collectors edition.
Only the standard edition has an unlimited supply IIRC. Guess they wanna make the speeder and other digital goodies a bit more special.
I'm not, I live in the US, sorry :/Fonds said:So are you a european resident ciaossu? We need some more consulars for our awesome NeoGAF guild
On the note of the digital deluxe edition and the likeliness of getting one, it has to do with the fact that it is limited. Just like the collectors edition.
Only the standard edition has an unlimited supply IIRC. Guess they wanna make the speeder and other digital goodies a bit more special.
I might try to join up with east coast GAF, that could be fun.
Dinosaur Tamer
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ciaossu said:
Early Access is basically a separate launch for pre-order customers a few days ahead of the official launch date. So you will be able to do everything you would expect of launch day and keep everything you do during Early Access. We don't have anything official on how much of a head start it is going to be, but most are preparing for 3 to 7 days.
It's why pre-orders are limited. If you let everyone get in during the Early Access period, servers would get hammered and there would be no reason to have Early Access in the first place.
*Edit*: There will be test weekends in September with participants randomly chosen from everyone who opted in for testing. People tend to confuse these with Early Access, but they don't have anything to do with pre-orders.
That's sick. I need to really read up on the mechanics and see which class I'm going to roll.Billychu said:
Interesting. So each class has 2 within it, but you don't pick until level 20? And then each advanced class has 3 specs. What about the '(Shared)' specs? Are those support classes?Dinosaur Tamer said:
Cool, I'll assume switching between those two specs is trivial, but switching ACs might require making a new character?Billychu said:
Skimming over the ACs for Alliance, it looks like they all have at least one 'damage' spec, and then a few have a 'tank' or 'healing' one as the second spec. None of that tank/heal/damage with one class crap. That bothers me in WoW. Druids and Paladins can do everything, and (now, was not always that way) do it all well. It makes other classes feel less like they have less utility.
Dinosaur Tamer
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ciaossu said:
There are two factions: Republic and Empire.
Each of the factions has four classes. Trooper, Jedi Knight, Jedi Consular and Smuggler for the Republic and Bounty Hunter, Sith Warrior, Sith Inquisitor and Imperial Agent for the Empire. The two factions are pretty much mirrored so a Trooper plays very similar to a Bounty Hunter, a Knight is similar to a Warrior and so on. They are not exactly the same, but feature a great number of mirrored abilities and talents. This is probably a balance decision.
Each class can chose between two advanced classes at level 10. So a Jedi Knight could be a Guardian (Tank/DPS) or a Sentinel(DPS). Each advanced class has two unique talent trees and one shared talent tree that is available to both ACs of the same class. For example: said Jedi Knight would have access to the Vigilance, Defense and Focus trees. The Sentinel could invest points into the Watchman, Combat and Focus trees.
*Edit*: It should also be mentioned that advanced classes seem to get different core abilities (abilities you get from your trainer after reaching a certain level). I am not sure if this has been confirmed though.
Talent trees are handled exactly like in World of Warcraft. You can start to spend points at level 10 and get one point per level until reaching max level.
Basically an advanced class can be compared to classes in World of Warcraft, since both feature three different talent trees, that can determine your role (Tank/DPS/Healer). One could say there are 8 classes per faction and 16 in total with half of the classes being mirrors and all of them sharing one of three talent trees with another class.
MaddenNFL64
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ciaossu said:
You pick at level 10. The shared tree seems to give alot of talents that are conducive to PVP.
So, when you start the game, you will play as a Jedi Knight for example. You will get talents & skills for the Jedi Knight. At level 10, you will specialize. From 10-50 you will be a Jedi Sentinel for example. You will still have all the skills & talents from 1-10, but you will get new stuff added on as well. You will now be able to use 2 lightsabers (exclusive to Sentinels/Marauders), and any tree you go into will be damage related. No tanking spec, no healing spec.
If you go Guardian, you will get access to heavy armor, and a tank spec. But you will also have a DPS spec available if you so choose.
edit: going down the shared tree as a Guardian, or Sentinel will bolster abilites for both advanced classes, and the final ability you unlock is supposed to be very powerful. Bioware has said the shared trees are a viable spec to go into for any class. We shall see though.
BattleMonkey
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Interfectum said:
Sith Warrior has like the most guild sign ups on the site
IA has the least
WarMacheen
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so, I preordered
hurray
also EA/Bioware send me a fucking beta key, I only signed up before SW:RoTJ was released
hurray
also EA/Bioware send me a fucking beta key, I only signed up before SW:RoTJ was released
MaddenNFL64
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WarMacheen said:
Pff, I was on that shit before Lucas filmed THX 1138.
Interfectum said:
There are a lot of polls going around on the SWTOR forums. It looks like the general trends are:
More force users than non-force users.
Sith Sorcerer (Inquisitor) seems to be the most popular, followed by Jedi Shadow (consular)
Imperial agent and smuggler are least popular.
No idea if the SWTOR forumites are indicative of the general population, though.
Dinosaur Tamer
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Well someone posted this site a few pages ago: http://www.swtorprogress.com/members.php
Data seems to come from the class selection feature of the official site's guild formation system. That should be much more representative than random polls on the SWTOR.com forums.
Data seems to come from the class selection feature of the official site's guild formation system. That should be much more representative than random polls on the SWTOR.com forums.
Interfectum
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steadfast said:
The cover mechanic looks like shit.... and I can't even imagine how bad it is for PvP.
WarMacheen
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DrBo42 said:
...why where you that close, lose the light saber duel?
=P i keed
Blackface said:
That's fascinating. The problem is if you make their heals good enough then they're an infinite resource healer; if you don't make them strong enough then they aren't viable compared to other healers. Guess they went with the 'too weak' path.
I'm still playing IA though. I love the theme and the fact I can stab people in the back while healing a team member with some darts or droids. Too much fun.
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