cartoon_soldier
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God I am suffering from withdrawals, can't even get myself to launch LOTRO.
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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]
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I was at 40-120 FPS at any given time playing at 1080p.
I have:
Phenom II X4 970 3.5ghz (which I sometimes overclock)
Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB
7200rpm HDD
5GB of super slow RAM
Also my textures did not look that bad, and I was playing max settings. There's more optimization issues that will be hammered out come launch and drivers too, but yeah, just hang in there, and check on how/when your GPU and CPU underclocks themselves.
Make sure to be running in power performance mode (if on Win7/Vista) of Balanced or High Performance. I think with the older non-stepping versions of the Phenom series sometimes had that problem, so it'd be something to look into. If you need something cheap, Black Friday is always around the corner too, and there's always a ton of sales then.
I have:
Phenom II X4 970 3.5ghz (which I sometimes overclock)
Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB
7200rpm HDD
5GB of super slow RAM
Also my textures did not look that bad, and I was playing max settings. There's more optimization issues that will be hammered out come launch and drivers too, but yeah, just hang in there, and check on how/when your GPU and CPU underclocks themselves.
Make sure to be running in power performance mode (if on Win7/Vista) of Balanced or High Performance. I think with the older non-stepping versions of the Phenom series sometimes had that problem, so it'd be something to look into. If you need something cheap, Black Friday is always around the corner too, and there's always a ton of sales then.
gatti-man said:
You are out of your mind. I honestly cannot even fathom what the hell makes you say the bolded. None of this issues are going to kill the game if they arent in by launch, but to saying that they are overrated at launch is absolutely stupid. I have to imagine you are just bias as hell. LFG and Chat channels are extremely important for MMO's and they should be in at the launch of any MMO, period. No excuses, no nothing.
I beg to differ. Coming from successful launches and crap launches I can tell you those two features dont really make a successful launch. Vanilla wow didnt really have chat channels and no lfg. People didnt care. What people care about is content, stability, gameplay, graphics, pvp balance, loot, music, and then way way back there are lfg tools and chat channels. First 6 months of launch everyone spams general anyways.Cipherr said:
Im not biased my point was that they obviously have more pressing matters to attend to. If you cherry pick a sentence out of my post it loses context.
Yes it absolutely does. Something must be wrong here.Carm said:
FieryBalrog
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gatti-man said:
what?
Confused101
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Just to throw more stats into the mix, here's my rig.
i5 2500k stock speeds
Geforce GTX 460 1gb
8GB DDR3
Dual 10K RPM WD Raptors Raid 0 (I need an SSD badly)
Resolution: 1920x1200
Settings: Max (No AA)
FPS: 60-100 (50 outside the Senate building which I found to be the most graphically intensive spot)
i5 2500k stock speeds
Geforce GTX 460 1gb
8GB DDR3
Dual 10K RPM WD Raptors Raid 0 (I need an SSD badly)
Resolution: 1920x1200
Settings: Max (No AA)
FPS: 60-100 (50 outside the Senate building which I found to be the most graphically intensive spot)
MisterAnderson
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gatti-man said:
I have an overclocked i7 920 (3.9GHz). FPS would drop sometimes sub 60, which is unacceptable for a game with such low graphics fidelity and no AA enabled.
I can run every game I own at a smooth 60 FPS with triple buffering and 8x AA. This should be no different, especially given how crappy the graphics in the beta were.
MisterAnderson
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eastmen said:
i7 920 (OC to 3.9GHz)
Nvidia GTX 580
12GB DDR3
The textures were pretty blurry as well, especially on characters. During cutscenes the graphics would get noticeably more detailed, but even then the textures seemed lower res than they could have been given I had everything set to max settings. I suspect that the beta was locked at medium settings, or there was something wrong with my beta video settings or something because the graphics looked pretty damn crappy and not as good as the marketing shots of the game.
I'd post a screenshot but isn't that a huge NDA violation?
Edit: Don't get me wrong, I'm exaggerating a bit as far as how bad the game looked. But it does look comparable to WoW from a technical standpoint...and that game came out in 2004. The art direction was nice, but the shadows and textures were terrible (shadows were extremely boxy, and textures muddy as hell). The fact that I could notice a difference between the textures during cutscenes when compared to gameplay made that apparent, and even during cutscenes the textures could have been a lot sharper. I mean...if I'm on max settings, then make the gameplay look as good as it does in the cutscenes at the very least. It's obviously possible to render out given that the cutscenes aren't pre-rendered or anything. I'm really hoping that the final product will have higher res textures when set to max settings...
MisterAnderson
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gatti-man said:
Stating that the beta that I played has shitty graphics given my machine and the year we are in, and hoping for them to look better at launch is ludicrous?....
Sax Russel said:
Yea I saw that when taking the pic. Reason it was 2d, I had just switched from the most recent beta Nvidia driver to the latest official release to see if my fps would go up, figured the beta drive had to be the issue. I had forgotten to turn single display/prefer maximum performance back on before screwing around in game. The framerate was same as the screenshot while normal clocks prior to switching drivers though.
As for the grass, yea I must have turned it off to see if the framerate was higher without it, had issues in WoW with that in the early days. Graphically I have no issues with my screenshot though, that's not my complaint, performance is. Very strange, my screenshot does look lower res than yours, not a clue as to why.
Hrm, here is another screenshot same area, that looks fine resolution wise, not sure what happened then. It was definitely the same settings though, changing texture size never impacted fps when I tested it.
When I went to the Hutt world, I was at 60fps till I started moving around, then it started dropping like a rock.
keep a straight face I dare youBillychu said:
Here is four screenshots to balance out the ugly above, I like these 4 I took. Last one is from a fraps so it may look off.
1 Very menacing lighting.
2 Space Station 1st visit and already wants to take it over by force.
3 This one has a very strong WoW vibe, not a bad thing.
4Spell effect from accidentally hitting an aoe ability.
Alright, understand now, I have no issues with gameplay, it was what I expected nothing more, which is fine. I wasn't expecting something like Guild Wars 2, trying to reinvent the wheel, my issue is performance and how it looks in a lot of places.
I'm gonna try not to make more comparisons or complaints (if I can lol). I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from potentially playng it, I'm just confused/disappointed by the performance I had when I see no issues on my side. If you're sick of WoW, you might enjoy SWTOR, I'm sure it will have a lively playerbase for some time.
xDEKOIx
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I've been having major FPS issues. I'm noticing my FPS dropping as low as 8 frames during combat, in a place with a decent amount of people, etc.. I was wondering if anyone else has been having FPS issues? All my in-game settings are MED to LOW. Bloom is turned off, and all that stuff that would have any result in hitting my performance.
Are both my PC & Graphics card making the game play poorly, or can I adjust some settings some where? All my drivers are updated as I just reformatted my PC 2 days ago.
I have:
AMD Phenom 9500 Quad Core Processor
Nvidia Geforce 9800GT (yea I know -_-)
6GB of Ram
Based on the system requirements that were released, I thought I'd be able to play the game with no problem. Is the beta client just not optimized atm?
Are both my PC & Graphics card making the game play poorly, or can I adjust some settings some where? All my drivers are updated as I just reformatted my PC 2 days ago.
I have:
AMD Phenom 9500 Quad Core Processor
Nvidia Geforce 9800GT (yea I know -_-)
6GB of Ram
Based on the system requirements that were released, I thought I'd be able to play the game with no problem. Is the beta client just not optimized atm?
MisterAnderson
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gatti-man said:
It's reasonable to have some level of expectation given marketing/PR screenshots. When the beta doesn't nearly match that level, it's also reasonable to be concerned. I'm not complaining, I'm providing feedback from my experience and stating my opinion of the graphics.
I don't expect Crysis level graphics here, and I admit that I went straight from playing Rage to the TOR beta which could be why it was so jarring for me. But after playing it all weekend I've concluded that the graphics were subpar in the beta. I'm hopeful that they will look improved in the final product, but if it's not I will not be pleased as I was not impressed in the least by the beta's graphics.
As for the FPS, I was more complaining that the game was dipping given how non-impressive the graphics were. And like I said, I expect the final product to be optimized...or hope that it will be at least.
MaddenNFL64
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New facebook image of da week.
Also, level 25 open world pvp & junk.
Marauder on Tatooine
How do you not burn your resources. He's always topped off. Seen this a few times, and it always annoys me.
Still cool to see!
edit: that marauder got better at the end, but still.
Also, level 25 open world pvp & junk.
Marauder on Tatooine
How do you not burn your resources. He's always topped off. Seen this a few times, and it always annoys me.
Still cool to see!
edit: that marauder got better at the end, but still.
MaddenNFL64
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Maybe there are poses in this game from Mass Effect 3 too lol. Like a sneak peek!
Hari Seldon
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So I am once again considering pre-ordering it. What is this early access stuff? Is that the beta going on now?
Giolon
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Fine Ham Abounds
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I'm one of the minority who has really liked the art design in this game, but that Wookie is unforgivably bad. Looks like a dude wearing a suit made of creamed chipped beef.MaddenNFL64 said:New facebook image of da week.
Or a melting chocolate easter bunny.
The_Squirrel_Menace
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Gahhhh can't get enough of the video leaks. Liked the Sith Warrior mirror quest to get your lightsaber in comparaison to the jedi knight.
Is it bad that I almost want to play a class I liked least (Bounty Hunter) because I thought the companion was adorable and in a cutscene I told her I would give the world for her (Mako)?
Also yeah, when I first ran into a wookie on the BH story quests, that white one did not look too hot.
Also yeah, when I first ran into a wookie on the BH story quests, that white one did not look too hot.
cartoon_soldier
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Hari Seldon said:
I wish pre-ordering got you into beta
Btw, if anyone in beta is not able to play for a few days or so, I am free this weekend
LowParry
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Did we really just start the argument of WoW vs TOR in art? Almost every other MMO out there looks better than WoW.
TOR's art direction looks great. It's not ugly at all and it certainly looks appealing. But that's not everything that will make it success. We're almost two months away from launch.
TOR's art direction looks great. It's not ugly at all and it certainly looks appealing. But that's not everything that will make it success. We're almost two months away from launch.
MisterAnderson
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CcrooK said:Did we really just start the argument of WoW vs TOR in art? Almost every other MMO out there looks better than WoW.
TOR's art direction looks great. It's not ugly at all and it certainly looks appealing. But that's not everything that will make it success. We're almost two months away from launch.
Not sure why you are so surprised...WoW's art direction is pretty incredible. It's the only thing that keeps the graphics from looking terrible. TOR's art direction also looks great, my problem is my experience with the beta has not impressed me graphically. And like I said before, I'm hoping it's just because the graphics were locked to a lower setting in the beta/it wasn't optimized.
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