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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]

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MaddenNFL64

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Jarmel said:
Kotaku finally did an article on this.

And the video is still up. Does Bioware just not care at this point?

They must be trying to take it down, but something is in the way? They have been quick to destroy this shit, to my chagrin.

edit: the beta leak was 2 videos. One of them was taken down.
 

Derwind

Member
MaddenNFL64 said:
If anyone catches wind of any uploads of the first video, hit this thread up. Thank you.

If you know any good video uploading sites. I can put them up because I have both videos saved on my laptop.
 
Well supposedly GW2 might be slipping to 2012 now and Tera is possibly going to 2012 now too. EA would probably be wise to get this out this year and take advantage of an exclusive mmo release window.
 

MaddenNFL64

Member
bjaelke said:
Small pre/re-view from the guy behind the videos: http://www.sithwarrior.com/forum/general-info/beta-tester-trantice-gives-his-review/

He liked it, but still jeopardized his beta spot by leaking both videos. Seems a bit odd.


Character creator, SI and JK gameplay.

Well, thanks to him I guess. Took one for the team. He'll play it with the rest of us :p.

Oh, and go to 57:20 of the 1st video everyone, shit is hilarious! Takes forever to choose (I would too), then the awesomeness, haha.
 

CzarTim

Member
I watched 20 minutes when they first went up, but decided it was too spoilery. I want to be able to experience it myself when I get my hands on it.
 

Dresden

Member
The gameplay is stock MMO, I guess, very derivative of... WoW. *cue dead horse beating pic*

What gets me excited are those conversations, though. Pure Bioware. The saber combat looks decent but I won't be playing a force user so I don't really care.
 

bjaelke

Member
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Creamwolf

Neo Member
I was amazed that I actually watched the videos and was interested in them. I find it extremely hard to watch someone else play a game.

In this case I couldn't take my eyes off the game. I get a really good KOTOR vibe only in an MMO setting. Just because this game plays like wow shouldn't discourage anyone from trying it. Knowing Bioware, this game will have a soul deeply connected to the Star Wars Universe and not feel like a grindfest.
 

Creamwolf

Neo Member
Does anyone know if lightsaber colors are restricted at this point? Because I've seen SI in screenshots using a purple one. However, we all know Mace Windu wielded a purple saber.
 

CzarTim

Member
Creamwolf said:
Does anyone know if lightsaber colors are restricted at this point? Because I've seen SI in screenshots using a purple one. However, we all know Mace Windu wielded a purple saber.
According to the Q&A above it has to do with alignment, not class/faction.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Trantice or whatever the guy's name is sent an email to Betacake:
"I am the person that recorded the videos about SWTOR, and I'd like to set the record straight about them. I was live streaming SWTOR on a protected stream for a live QA session. I thought it would be a great way to do a group QA on the current build of the game, but as you can see, it got way out of hand. This was over the past weekend.

What I didn't realize is how poorly the security is at Justin.tv. Anyone can go in and find an archive of a video, as is evident. Even though I deleted my own archives, word of mouth apparently made people search long and hard to find a back door. It was NOT my intention to leak these videos to anyone. I was of course banned for what occurred, which is sad because I really enjoyed the game a lot. I spoke extensively with David Bass and Eric Campbell @ Bioware, but the rules are the rules. They understood what occurred, but the terms of the NDA were pretty clear. Oh well!

What I'd like to also say, is that while I was live streaming, we were discussing choices, bugs, maps, QA items, all during the stream. This is why you see periods of inactivity or just basic crap game play. I can assure you I am seasoned MMO vet, but again, I was live streaming and discussing the game at the same time. We talked about which choices to take, bugs we may have seen that I may have missed, and all kinds of design elements. I thought it was really something special to help the game out. This is also the reason you see completely un-edited footage that may be painful to watch.

I guess now that these videos are out, I can hope for two things. One, that the buzz for the game increases and people will look forward to it even more. Second, that the enormous amount of feedback that the footage has garnered will help Bioware to tweak the game and hopefully make it more successful. "

Shit is serious business. That phone call with Bioware must have been very interesting.
 

bjaelke

Member
Well that does explain the slow pacing in the videos.
Creamwolf said:
Does anyone know if lightsaber colors are restricted at this point? Because I've seen SI in screenshots using a purple one. However, we all know Mace Windu wielded a purple saber.
People were upset at first, because they wanted it to be blue/green for the Jedis and Red for the Siths - it had to be true to the canon. Now they're asking for black and gold(!) lightsabers.
 

Jarmel

Banned
GasProblem said:
Both links are down. Ugh, I want to watch the leaks :(

You're probably going to have to torrent it. Bioware got serious
finally
about taking leaks down. Any place that is hosting the video is getting taken down very fast now. Although the damage has already been done. Honestly if I was Bioware I would at this point just make it a Friday update so people can talk about it.
 

CzarTim

Member
Jarmel said:
You're probably going to have to torrent it. Bioware got serious
finally
about taking leaks down. Any place that is hosting the video is getting taken down very fast now. Although the damage has already been done. Honestly if I was Bioware I would at this point just make it a Friday update so people can talk about it.
Since the old UI is in that vid, I doubt it.
 

Darklord

Banned
Jarmel said:
You're probably going to have to torrent it. Bioware got serious
finally
about taking leaks down. Any place that is hosting the video is getting taken down very fast now. Although the damage has already been done. Honestly if I was Bioware I would at this point just make it a Friday update so people can talk about it.

I actually liked the leaks. Any gameplay of TOR has been standard MMO stuff but this was the starting points of several classes. Those are the videos that got me so hyped about WoW originally. I think it looks good. I skipped through it but it was nice to see lots of talking, lots of dialog. Although a romance scene like 50 minutes into one of them, especially for a Jedi seemed pretty fast. I didn't see the context of it though.
 

MaddenNFL64

Member
Jarmel said:
You're probably going to have to torrent it. Bioware got serious
finally
about taking leaks down. Any place that is hosting the video is getting taken down very fast now. Although the damage has already been done. Honestly if I was Bioware I would at this point just make it a Friday update so people can talk about it.

You say damage, but this was needed. People are actually fucking happy to see so much of the game, even with bugs, and unfinished bits.

I'd say the leaks were a major boon to Bioware.
 

Creamwolf

Neo Member
CzarTim said:
According to the Q&A above it has to do with alignment, not class/faction.

Hmm, ok. It'll be interesting to see what colors are made available to each side based on alignment. Personally, I like that more than faction restricted colors.
 

Jarmel

Banned
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That news about the testers is great news. The more they bitch, more stuff gets added and fixed. I would much rather have a bunch of assholes be testers rather than some ass kissing idiots.
 

DodgerSan

Member
Jarmel said:
That news about the testers is great news. The more they bitch, more stuff gets added and fixed. I would much rather have a bunch of assholes be testers rather than some ass kissing idiots.

Kind of agree. There's a difference, a BIG difference though between constructive feedback/criticism and bratty whining because things aren't the way they want them. I hope the positive signal cuts through the noise and leads to a better game in the end.
 

Dr. Chaos

Banned
I would much rather have a bunch of assholes be testers rather than some ass kissing idiots.
Not if they're just being more highly opinionated dickheads trying to get things or features that others might like out of the game.

I don't think he would be complaining about those beta testers if they were just bitching about bugs or glitches.
 

antonz

Member
yeah its pretty clear the type of people he is complaining about are the idiots who dont care about the game so much as they do playing it now instead of later.

Still say they should do a gaf group for testing ;) Problem with testing offsite is the difficulty in ensuring proper age groups etc. Hell Nintendo made me sign multiple forms and send them in etc just to certify my age for a contest.
 

bjaelke

Member
So the closed beta tester forum is exactly like the official forum...
antonz said:
yeah its pretty clear the type of people he is complaining about are the idiots who dont care about the game so much as they do playing it now instead of later.

Still say they should do a gaf group for testing ;) Problem with testing offsite is the difficulty in ensuring proper age groups etc. Hell Nintendo made me sign multiple forms and send them in etc just to certify my age for a contest.
With all the leaked information flooding around in this thread, I seriously doubt it. Wasn't there a BioWare employee replying to this thread earlier?
 

CzarTim

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bjaelke said:
With all the leaked information flooding around in this thread, I seriously doubt it. Wasn't there a BioWare employee replying to this thread earlier?
Speculator, but he bailed when the videos were posted. :S
 

Speculator

BioWare Austin
CzarTim said:
Speculator, but he bailed when the videos were posted. :S
Nah I'm still here being a gaffer, just dwelling other threads lol.

Not really comment on those Q&A and videos but do take much of that info with a grain of salt as that info was indeed from an old build, but E3 is right around the corner :).

Definitely recommend checking out the Dev Tracker on the forums for in depth info as well.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Speculator said:
Nah I'm still here being a gaffer, just dwelling other threads lol.

Not really comment on those Q&A and videos but do take much of that info with a grain of salt as that info was indeed from an old build, but E3 is right around the corner :).

Definitely recommend checking out the Dev Tracker on the forums for in depth info as well.

Thanks for responding and not quietly disappearing into the night. We appreciate any developer who posts. Will you be able to talk more about the game after E3?
 

DodgerSan

Member
Speculator said:
Nah I'm still here being a gaffer, just dwelling other threads lol.

Not really comment on those Q&A and videos but do take much of that info with a grain of salt as that info was indeed from an old build, but E3 is right around the corner :).

Definitely recommend checking out the Dev Tracker on the forums for in depth info as well.
Seconded. I get the vibe that not many people know about the dev tracker when it really is a goldmine.
 

Speculator

BioWare Austin
Jarmel said:
Thanks for responding and not quietly disappearing into the night. We appreciate any developer who posts. Will you be able to talk more about the game after E3?

Yup definitely. I of course can't divulge any features that haven't been formally announced (NDA and all) but I can definitely help clarify anything and such.
 

Qwomo

Junior Member
I was going to ask if it's forum-legal to post beta screenshots a friend of mine leaked, but I'd feel bad doing it with Speculator here. :p
 

bjaelke

Member
Qwomo said:
I was going to ask if it's forum-legal to post beta screenshots a friend of mine leaked, but I'd feel bad doing it with Speculator here. :p
Probably a good idea. Meanwhile the rest of us can enjoy this week's Facebook picture:
A Ferrazid Hound prowls the undergrowth on Taris, trundling tirelessly after the scent of prey.
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Shrennin

Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I have been keeping away from any recent news of this game because I just want it to come out but I just saw the immersion day previews.

Note: this isn't new stuff, I just randomly stumbled upon it because I was purposely staying in the dark on this game.

I'm not sure if this has already been talked (it probably has been) about but the stuff that MMORPG.com is reporting sounds awesome, particularly the PVP (and I'm not a traditional PVP player).

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/367/feature/5220/Immersion-Days-Coverage-WrapUp.html

I've only read this article so far:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/367/feature/5198/PvP-HandsOn-Preview.html/page/1

*_*

I can't wait for this game.
 

Dr. Chaos

Banned
Finally finished up KOTOR II. Not quite as good as the first game but some aspects of the universe are alot more interesting here than in the original.

Malak was pretty much an evil laugh loving mustache twirling idiot, I actually found the Sith in this game to be pretty damn creepy.
 

Dr. Chaos

Banned
I was planning on playing a lightside inquisitor anyway so I guess I'll still get to dick around with a green saber, thankfully.

I don't know if I like a restriction on colors at all though. Jedi use a wide spectrum and we rarely see sith dabble outside of red. Occasionally we get a badass renegade dark jedi like Exar Kun with a blue one and Freedo Nadd with an orange short saber but it really seems like Darkside players would be getting the short end of the stick.
 
Dr. Chaos said:
I was planning on playing a lightside inquisitor anyway so I guess I'll still get to dick around with a green saber, thankfully.

I don't know if I like a restriction on colors at all though. Jedi use a wide spectrum and we rarely see sith dabble outside of red. Occasionally we get a badass renegade dark jedi like Exar Kun with a blue one and Freedo Nadd with an orange short saber but it really seems like Darkside players would be getting the short end of the stick.

Sith are supposed to use red and the characters you describe were not actual Sith. Biowares own fluff stuff from their site claim that Exar Kun wasn't even a Sith with all his power as he never truly followed their teachings, but it was him who helped bring back the Sith in the end. The character classes in the game are meant to be actual Sith story wise.
 
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