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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
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mescalineeyes
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just found this gem on Reddit:
"what is this zerg? Oh you mean the macro training race before you go competitive >_>"
"what is this zerg? Oh you mean the macro training race before you go competitive >_>"
mescalineeyes
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Q8D3vil said:
he is a cute little junior
I don't understand why people still think Terran is overpowered in any way (and why zergs still feel entitled to whine about their race). There was a time when that used to be true, around the time when Fruitdealer won the first GSL. Patch 1.1.2 pretty much changed everything: Zerg's early game became significantly stronger, and they also became much harder to harass, all while keeping the late-game dominance they always had. Zergs get outraged when a T does things like bunker rushes and early game timing pushes or all-ins, because they don't seem to understand the reason behind it.
Corran Horn
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Man DLing and Uploading at school is so much better. So much of a faster internet. Upload while in class lol
mescalineeyes
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Masaki_ said:
what league/race?
Translated TV show about Boxer playing SC2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BITD7Evc34I
Masaki_ said:
I dont know if you should post here ever again. You just lost all credibility. You must be in bronze because clearly you dont understand the difficulties zergs have against terran. Have fun trying to scout a terran before lair (which you cant) while they perform one of about 1000 different builds which all need different responses.
Corran Horn
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Canadian Zergs are very defensive.Masaki_ said:
Nah I just complain a lot jokingly (sort of).Q8D3vil said:
I was playing Rift forever in beta, but that is over for now so it's back to not laddering for me.
When I focus I have a natural sense of timings and macro, but as for the meta game and why I do things I'm not as sound since I barely play at all. Maybe like 2-3 games a week? Every 2 weeks? Something like that.
Corran Horn
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Who are you!?!ZealousD said:
its because you dont understand the game. its normal amongst lowbie terrans who think they cant play macro, usually because macro is hard and they dont want to try.Masaki_ said:
patch 1.1.2 addressed a low investment high reward harass that was difficult to scout and as such had to be defended in leu of its actual threat. it doesn't address things like 2 rax because terrans had no reason to do anything but reaper at the time. turns out marines are also kinda good and with unit control and stim, beat every zerg ground unit for cost. which is apparently BALANCE to you. what a joke.
zergs can defend against most terran allins, by the skin of the creep, but it doesnt help when we cant actually scout terrans because of zero investment walls and tier o ranged AA units. big maps would only so much that a zerg who is 100% on top of the scouting game might have time to react, but that would still be a larger investment from one player for similair returns.
Pandaman said:
yep, guys, if more terrans just tried to get into a long macro game they'd realize tvz is fine
*cue mvp versus nestea on xel'naga
oh wait
actually, nevermind, it's obvious mvp just can't macro, that scrub
yeah marines are fucking op and what the fuck are banelings
why is any of that even an issue? are you complaining zerg actually has to put some effort in order to defend himself? if I were you, i'd be just fine with that because I'd know if the game went past 15 minutes, i'd almost certainly win.
Haunted
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How in the world is Starjeweled more addictive than Bejeweled 3 itself? >_>
Someone really needs to make a Starcraft II map editor appreciation thread. So many different gametypes, so many different genres, such a powerful tool. People are getting all amped about LBP's user creation capabilities, but it's shit all next to Starcraft II's.
Someone really needs to make a Starcraft II map editor appreciation thread. So many different gametypes, so many different genres, such a powerful tool. People are getting all amped about LBP's user creation capabilities, but it's shit all next to Starcraft II's.
Pandaman said:
Masaki_ said:
Yeah. Banelings are so awesome. They are perfect against marines behind walls denying scouting. Ah, wait, no. They are not.
Banelings are also so awesome against an easily obtainable Banshee, just like marines. Oh wait, they are not.
Banelings are also easy to attack with, not having to worry about siege tanks behind marines and being forced into spending 200/200 to baneling kill a thor OR to try and catch stimmed marines while Siege tanks aoe-kill them every second.
...oh wait, what the HELL are you even talking about?
Corran Horn
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IdrA and Artosis have started a new show talking about balance, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYtfBDJXq0Q
Corran Horn
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This should end wellIkuu said:
DurielBlack
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Hazaro said:
No, thats all zerg ground units.
I'm just fooling around and fanning the flames. Its not all Doom&Gloom for zerg, but they definately need some work.
I play Protoss and am terrible.
cue, every other game vs nestea.Masaki_ said:
its cute that you appeal to the 1 in a 4:1 set as an example of why the matchup is fine.
i can do that too! see: jinro vs idra on jungle basin, both times.
see gsl season3 w here zergs had the second highest representation and no one in top 8.
see gsl season 4's 7 terrans and nestea finals.
spoiler: a baneling has to kill 2 marines each to be cost effective, l2p and you'll realize how easy it is to reduce splash damage when your opponent has to suicide to attack. hell, you can just kite to regain cost. you scrubs complain about losing in fights you are massively outspent on and you think there's a problem.
see also: the lair tech upgrade pretty much required to deal with bioballs that dont suicide themselves into creep patches for you. banelings dont allkill mech and marauders either, they're a specific gas intesive techpath designed to combat light units, they are nothing like a tier 0 jack of all trades ranged unit that outdps's pretty much everything for cost and has no cooldown worth speaking about.
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suggesting baneling as a counter to marine allins is like suggesting immortal versus roach allin, strictly speaking it makes sense, most players accept that immortals do very well versus roaches, but in a real game situation, time and cost cannot be ignored as factors.
relative to the effort terran puts in to win in those allin situations? YES.
you're not me though, because I'm not copper league.
they dont need the upgrade unless zerg has carapace first. and thats for zerglings only, banes always get one shot.splinter said:
DurielBlack
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Wishing, as usual, that I wasn't stuck at work.
Pandaman said:
yeah, nothing to do with the fact mvp is better than that sack of shit nestea
ps: fruitdealer is still the best zerg
zergs get hardfucked by the map pool (then again not that much to justify all the whining), i know that. cant wait for a zvz finals when they introduce the new maps
you complain about marines and im the one who needs to learn how to play? LOL
hello im a zerg player and i demand an auto-win hotkey be introduced in the next patch i dont think the game is balanced as it is
then i guess you must be in rust leage or something
mescalineeyes
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Masaki_ said:
I am sorry but can we actually see you play for once or maybe share your ranking info just so we know how seriously we can take you?
spl1nter and panda aren't exactly scrubs by a long-shot.
Aquavelvaman
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This thread is getting rowdy
if it didnt get rowdy, we wouldnt be a family.Aquavelvaman said:
also fruitdealer as top zerg is lol. maybe if everyone still played nr 20 games with him where he could just tech infestior/roach/hydra/drop/bane/spire and drone at the 11 minute mark.
so there's a balance problem until either t and p get some nerfs or new maps come out that dont favour any race.
maps can easily be adjusted between leagues, but blizzard has to tweak baalnce in accordance with their own ladder. that ladder has balance problems, hence QQ.
are banelings half as problematic as marines?
do banelings cost gas?
he played and lost to meeru and terproerg today for gafnight.mescalineeyes said:
Pandaman said:if it didnt get rowdy, we wouldnt be a family.
also fruitdealer as top zerg is lol. maybe if everyone still played nr 20 games with him where he could just tech infestior/roach/hydra/drop/bane/spire and drone at the 11 minute mark.
So your saying his fruit has...gone rotten?
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