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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG

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mescalineeyes

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Decado said:
In the SP campaign can you pause and issue orders? I'm really bad at RTS games and have no interest in playing online.
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no you can not, but the SP campaign on normal difficulty runs at a much slower pace than the online part of the game :)
 
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Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
Decado said:
In the SP campaign can you pause and issue orders? I'm really bad at RTS games and have no interest in playing online.
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buying wings of liberty for the single player is like picking up a hooker so you can use the carpool lane.
 
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ultron87

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Pandaman said:
buying wings of liberty for the single player is like picking up a hooker so you can use the carpool lane.
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But it's such a great and entertaining carpool lane where each mile has a different and somewhat unique challenge.
 
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BigAT

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Pandaman said:
buying wings of liberty for the single player is like picking up a hooker so you can use the carpool lane.
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Problem?
 
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Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
ultron87 said:
But it's such a great and entertaining carpool lane where each mile has a different and somewhat unique challenge.
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'survive for X minutes'
'survive while X does Y'
'survive while Z charges'
'destroy 5 W's at preset intervals'
'stop the S attacks every 5 minutes'

all effectively amount to the same thing.
 
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ultron87

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Pandaman said:
'survive for X minutes'
'survive while X does Y'
'survive while Z charges'
'destroy 5 W's at preset intervals'
'stop the S attacks every 5 minutes'

all effectively amount to the same thing.
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Oh boy, reductionism!

Multiplayer: Don't lose all your building, kill all opponent's buildings.
 
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Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
ultron87 said:
Oh boy, reductionism!

Multiplayer: Don't lose all your building, kill all opponent's buildings.
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obiously multiplayer must have consistent rules, but single player leaves no room for skill.

you cant speedrun starcraft 2 because you always have to wait for that next convoy to escort. its artificial padding to the length of the game.
 
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dk_

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Pandaman said:
buying wings of liberty for the single player is like picking up a hooker so you can use the carpool lane.
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Really? I think the campaign is very good and motivating.

Is there a statistic or something about how many progamer finished the campaign or even played it? Would be interesting...
 
The Lamonster

The Lamonster

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Pandaman said:
buying wings of liberty for the single player is like picking up a hooker so you can use the carpool lane.
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I disagree. After playing so many RTS games I thought the campaign had a lot of variety to the missions and I thought all the units were a lot of fun to play with.

On top of that, there are challenges you can master and you can also customize skirmishes with the AI. Plus even if you are afraid of competitive multiplayer, there are tons of neat custom games out there like Tower Defense.
 
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Corran Horn

May the Schwartz be with you
Of course there is a patch and it bugs out the ladder on the day I want to practice before the tourny...

edit - guess not anymore
 
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FoxSpirit

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Pandaman said:
obiously multiplayer must have consistent rules, but single player leaves no room for skill.

you cant speedrun starcraft 2 because you always have to wait for that next convoy to escort. its artificial padding to the length of the game.
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Well, there are a lot of levels you can speedrun.

Or do a brutal NUR. Boggles my mind how you do that.
(NUR = No upgrade run... yeah, no siege mode, no stim, nothing)
 
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Aquavelvaman

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FoxSpirit said:
Well, there are a lot of levels you can speedrun.

Or do a brutal NUR. Boggles my mind how you do that.
(NUR = No upgrade run... yeah, no siege mode, no stim, nothing)
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You'd have to build 80 marines instead of 60!
 
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Corran Horn

May the Schwartz be with you
Currently editing shit around on my homepage of my site, but since I have no html programs anymore, notebook HOOOOOOO! Reminds me of my high school coding days....
http://askcorran.com/
Just right now have my JT.tv stream and links to my VODs but I would imagine I can get more stuff up soon.
 
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DurielBlack

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Corran Horn said:
Currently editing shit around on my homepage of my site, but since I have no html programs anymore, notebook HOOOOOOO! Reminds me of my high school coding days....
http://askcorran.com/
Just right now have my JT.tv stream and links to my VODs but I would imagine I can get more stuff up soon.
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Wow! Gratz, your website is already blocked by Websense.



:-(
 
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Smash88

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Hey guys I haven't played in a while actually. Wondering what are the strategies for Toss?

Around the time it came out, everyone mainly 3 gate + robo. Anything new?

Also what are the best build strategies for each race opponent you have. I know you need high templars against Terran players, anything else I have missed out, I want to get back into it. Thanks in advance.
 
Haunted

Haunted

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HolyCheck said:
FXO open tomorrow, about 40 hours from now!

http://challonge.com/images/brackets/fxopenis1.png
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WhiteRa, TLO, Morrow being notables absentees.

Aside from that, fantastic lineup from all three servers. Rare to see, will definitely watch.



Pandaman said:
'survive for X minutes'
'survive while X does Y'
'survive while Z charges'
'destroy 5 W's at preset intervals'
'stop the S attacks every 5 minutes'

all effectively amount to the same thing.
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Campaign is amazing! Don't hate on it
because you have to play Terran
, bitch.

:p

Multiplayer isn't for playing, it's for getting casted and spectating. >_>
 
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HolyCheck

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Slavik81 said:
I bought it fully expecting to play nothing but the single player.
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Same, expected to maybe dable in a few multiplayer games with close friends. the main draw was single player
 
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ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
Pandaman said:
you cant speedrun starcraft 2 because you always have to wait for that next convoy to escort. its artificial padding to the length of the game.
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Just because you can't speedrun some missions doesn't mean there's no skill or strategy involved or that there's no way to get better.

Do Welcome to the Jungle on Brutal without getting a single geyser capped, and then get back to me.
 
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Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
ZealousD said:
Do Welcome to the Jungle on Brutal without getting a single geyser capped, and then get back to me.
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i feel this just reinforces my point, since you have to go so far afield of the actual game to find an example of a 'challenge'. why not play it without mining gas or something equally crazy?
 
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Q8D3vil

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just watched drewbie vs incontrol showmatch
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i expected incontrol to be way better especially when he said that he want to play macro games instead of 1 base timing attack ( he kept doing timing attack all games long), but i guess there he is more of a personality than a player.
 
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FoxSpirit

Junior Member
Pandaman said:
i feel this just reinforces my point, since you have to go so far afield of the actual game to find an example of a 'challenge'. why not play it without mining gas or something equally crazy?
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Have you finished the game on brutal, Panda? There's plenty of hard missions where you have to play well.
(unless those jokes in here are true and mass marines wins all missions and I simply played too normal)

Of course the SP of a game won't have the 'difficulty' of MP. You can always be so good that it will seem like a joke to you. Unless the game sucks or is incredibly hard.
 
Haunted

Haunted

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Q8D3vil said:
just watched drewbie vs incontrol showmatch
spoiler
i expected incontrol to be way better especially when he said that he want to play macro games instead of 1 base timing attack ( he kept doing timing attack all games long), but i guess there he is more of a personality than a player.
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Looking at the money rankings, incontrol does not have a single tournament money finish, either in beta or since release. Pretty surprising.

His only winning ($200) came from a showmatch. >_> For all the shit consistent players like Haypro or Clide get, incontrol probably takes the cake as far as "highest profile pro player without any real success" is concerned.
 
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HolyCheck

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Q8D3vil said:
just watched drewbie vs incontrol showmatch
spoiler
i expected incontrol to be way better especially when he said that he want to play macro games instead of 1 base timing attack ( he kept doing timing attack all games long), but i guess there he is more of a personality than a player.
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InControls not dun shit for a long time.

talks the talk, and walks the 17th place at MLG's
 
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HolyCheck

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V_Arnold said:
It does not matter. His game knowledge and play is VERY solid nevertheless.
Or do YOU do better? :D
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He's a fucking wonderful coach, and knows more about the metagame than most.

But his execution is poor.
 
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V_Arnold

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HolyCheck said:
He's a fucking wonderful coach, and knows more about the metagame than most.

But his execution is poor.
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Okay,I do not want you to take this the wrong way, but when you say poor, you just do not mean it. It is the world's fault, not yours, but yeah. ;)

Poor execution is what a platinum/diamond level player has. A random person with no real practicing sessions and no real practice partners and no dedication. THAT is "poor" execution. Then there is moderate, average, good, flawless, brilliant. A lot of good words. Poor is not one of them in this case.

THIS is InControl, just for the facts.
 
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Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
It's pretty obvious when someone says a progamer has poor execution, they are talking in comparison to other progamers and not everyone who plays the game.
 
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hamchan

Member
Well obviously he's saying poor relative to him being a pro gamer. Of course he'll be good compared to any random noob on the ladder. I do think he's doing quite poorly especially considering the game knowledge he has and how big his mouth is. He's not fulfilling his potential and that's reflected by his mediocre results. Now you could argue that the best player doesn't always win, that it could just be bad luck, but the results seem way too consistent. I really hope he wins a big tournament this year since I like him.
 
Haunted

Haunted

Member
I really like incontrol. He's a good caster, fun to listen to on SotG, obviously knows his stuff as seen on his coaching sessions and ladder ranking (Top 30 on the NA server as of this moment). Considering how big of a presence he is in the scene, and how outspoken he is about his goals and mindset going into tournaments - he has absolutely underdelivered so far.

I'm rooting for the guy to finally get his SCII breakthrough as a player with a big tournament win.


edit: haven't read hamchan's post before posting myself. well said, friend. :)
 
Trickster

Trickster

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I could imagine that part of the reason for incontrol's results so far could be the effect of him not dedicating enough time to pratice. I mean he's doing several hours of coaching a day from what I understand. He's also a big gym nut, remember him saying he's at the gym 5 days a week, he also does casting and participates in things like the SotG podcast. And I'm sure that being the captain of team EG takes of time as well.
 
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