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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
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I thought the charge change would make them connect more or less immediately (so they couldn't be kited without getting a hit off), which makes so much sense considering the ability only has a range of 4. Kind of disappointing to hear otherwise, but I'll wait to see it in action.
The changes to Shakuras look kind of iffy. I KNEW Blizzard was lying when they said it was removed for being 'boring' though, the back rocks vs. terran (especially for zerg) was obviously ridiculous. But still can't wait to play it. Backwater Gulch change is so epic though. I can only imagine it will make expansions MUCH easier to hold for every race.
The changes to Shakuras look kind of iffy. I KNEW Blizzard was lying when they said it was removed for being 'boring' though, the back rocks vs. terran (especially for zerg) was obviously ridiculous. But still can't wait to play it. Backwater Gulch change is so epic though. I can only imagine it will make expansions MUCH easier to hold for every race.
I enjoy how well thought out your losing strategy is...but why wouldn't you just quit each game immediately?scogoth said:
AdventureRacing
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Hazaro said:
We thought it was hilarious. I need to test it with a zergling see if we can get them to charge across the whole map.
BigAT said:
Exactly. I just can't believe that lots of people really wanted this change. I understand that for the most part my win rate will be around 50% (actually in team games particularly 4v4 its more like 80%) but id still like to be able to see it.
Also i like the new additions to the replays.
Striek said:
I would definitely try it for yourself (i'd like to hear from someone else cause im probably doing something wrong). As far as i can tell charge is the same speed but you simply wont stop charging until you actually make a hit.
AdventureRacing
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Vaporak said:
Lol i'll have to go check this out. If you can i think i could have some fun playing around with it.
Corran Horn
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Corran Horn
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I hate these games, plus the controls are killing my hands lol. Only tried 3 times, almost got 250k ;;Striek said:
All you need to know is the powerups always cycle the same way, so you get the drones first (essentially two extra lives), then one of the weapons twice, then only get bombs. You will have so many bombs that anytime its close to dangerous you can just blow everything up.Corran Horn said:
PhoenixDark
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Holy shit baneling/ling destroys Toss. Won two of my three games against Toss tonight using it.
First game (Xel Naga Caverns): successfully held off mass Zealot 4-gate with all lings/banelings, two spine crawlers, and a queen. By the time I got over the shock of such a moral victory I realized I was quite behind, and ultimately lost to a shit ton of Colosus/Stalker/Sentry.
Second game (Xel Naga Caverns): Ok I cheated a bit. Scouted toss, saw him put down his second building and assumed it was a Cybernetics Core. Wasn't paying attention, then realized holy shit I'm getting 2-gated. Got my Roaches out in time to stop the push. Held off his second push with a couple Roaches and a majority of ling/baneling. He was so far behind after that I just waltzed up and finished him off.
Third game (Slag Pits): Once again held off 4-gate with ling/baneling/spine crawlers. Seems like the trick is to play a bit of Poke The Protoss - just micro back and forth buying time for more lings. Then attack in range of your Spine Crawlers and make sure the banelings explode on the Zealots. He was quite persistent with the rush, and I wound up getting a Lair/Hydras out to finish off the push. Then transitioned to heavy Muta and rolled over his armies multiple times, including 3-4 Colosus armies.
Weakness: VERY easy for your macro to slip. Also if Toss catches you off guard with a HT tech switch you could be fucked. In the third game my opponent managed to get some out, but by that time I had a couple Ultras and a shit ton of cash banked/map control. But a mid game transition could be deadly.
Also I noticed I became kinda compacent. I got drop tech to do some worker harass, but caught myself not teching up to better units. Given how cost efficient your army is, you can quickly get to Hive tech and have the option of going Ultra or Brood Lord. I stayed on Lair tech way too long in the first game, and didn't have enough cash to get a good Muta count.
Also I'd imagine a very good Toss could still destroy the build with 4-gate. Haven't tried it on Masters level folk or anything. Wonder what my brony Panda's experiences are in terms of protoss snuffing out the build
First game (Xel Naga Caverns): successfully held off mass Zealot 4-gate with all lings/banelings, two spine crawlers, and a queen. By the time I got over the shock of such a moral victory I realized I was quite behind, and ultimately lost to a shit ton of Colosus/Stalker/Sentry.
Second game (Xel Naga Caverns): Ok I cheated a bit. Scouted toss, saw him put down his second building and assumed it was a Cybernetics Core. Wasn't paying attention, then realized holy shit I'm getting 2-gated. Got my Roaches out in time to stop the push. Held off his second push with a couple Roaches and a majority of ling/baneling. He was so far behind after that I just waltzed up and finished him off.
Third game (Slag Pits): Once again held off 4-gate with ling/baneling/spine crawlers. Seems like the trick is to play a bit of Poke The Protoss - just micro back and forth buying time for more lings. Then attack in range of your Spine Crawlers and make sure the banelings explode on the Zealots. He was quite persistent with the rush, and I wound up getting a Lair/Hydras out to finish off the push. Then transitioned to heavy Muta and rolled over his armies multiple times, including 3-4 Colosus armies.
Weakness: VERY easy for your macro to slip. Also if Toss catches you off guard with a HT tech switch you could be fucked. In the third game my opponent managed to get some out, but by that time I had a couple Ultras and a shit ton of cash banked/map control. But a mid game transition could be deadly.
Also I noticed I became kinda compacent. I got drop tech to do some worker harass, but caught myself not teching up to better units. Given how cost efficient your army is, you can quickly get to Hive tech and have the option of going Ultra or Brood Lord. I stayed on Lair tech way too long in the first game, and didn't have enough cash to get a good Muta count.
Also I'd imagine a very good Toss could still destroy the build with 4-gate. Haven't tried it on Masters level folk or anything. Wonder what my brony Panda's experiences are in terms of protoss snuffing out the build
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Yoshichan said:
Eh it wasn't as good as i hoped. I'm not totally sure but it looks like the zealots just break out of the slow when they charge.
Also we tested a zergling on creep. The zealot was just slower and he gave up after a while, so you can't run as far as i thought.
Didn't get to charge across the map
AdventureRacing
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It's a shame cause i don't really know how charge worked before. It seems pretty much the same except they go 2 or 3 times as far.
Also i only just noticed that fungal growth was left as instant. I didn't realise they were doing that.
Also i only just noticed that fungal growth was left as instant. I didn't realise they were doing that.
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Corran Horn said:
What is the GAF channel? (PM it to me if need be). I wasn't actively playing SC2 when the chat patch came out.
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