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[Jeff-DSA]

Thors are too slow to do anything against Mutas outside from keeping them out of your mineral lines. Once you move them from your base, Mutas will just go back to owning your mineral lines and production structures. The current maps are way too big given how slow Terran mech is and how weak the air is. Bottom line, Zerg has to make mistakes with their Mutas because Terran sure as heck can't chase them down or contain them with anything.

People saying Thors are the answer have never tried using Thors very much. They're too slow and in low numbers they just get magic boxed, which means you can't reinforce with them either.

 

[mescalineeyes]

are we back to Mutas are OP now?

 

[Jeff-DSA]

are we back to Mutas are OP now?

No, we're back to people needing to stop ignorantly saying that Thors are an effective answer.

 

[Q8D3vil]

 

[Jeff-DSA]

He couldn't bust that? It's pretty mean, but Protoss is easily the best race for not letting that happen or breaking it down if it does.

 

[Dooraven]

uhh wtf unless you managed to snipe all his colossi with your banshees the protoss should have easily sniped the bunkers off.

 

[Won]

Charging in with Sentries before Zealots makes it hard I guess.

 

[Pandaman]

nobody told him that protoss units dont have to be warped in base?

wow, so bad.

on a related note:

 

[Dooraven]

Yeah honestly with Protoss you don't want all your units on a single hotkey due to the variation of speed the protoss units have. Terran is fine beacuse mmm travels at relatively the same speed and if you're having all of your units on 1 hotkey as zerg then smh.

Edit: Lol panda what did you use to kill the VRs with?

 

[Pandaman]

Edit: Lol panda what did you use to kill the VRs with?

i probably should have taken a middle pic, but it takes ages to fast forward 1hr into a 1v1 obs. that clump you see between my two furthest down tumours are my mutalisks.

if you're having all of your units on 1 hotkey as zerg then smh.

>_>

 

[Q8D3vil]

uhh wtf unless you managed to snipe all his colossi with your banshees the protoss should have easily sniped the bunkers off.

focus fire with banshee and tanks.

it was an all in from me so he canceled his expansion and turtled in his base, i made sure that he wasnt doing a ninja expansion or warp prism action (i left a 10 marines in my base). eventually i expanded because i was running low on minerals in my base.

this build still need some work because any tiny positional mistake can easily cost me the game.

 

[ChronicleX]

It beats ANYBODY who doesn't prepare for it. That's not exclusive to Zerg. Zerg players are just the most stubborn about static defense, so yeah, they get beat by in more than most. At least spore crawlers can chase away banshees. You have a few mutas and they just laugh at turrets and cannons.

Name one thing Protoss or Zerg can do to Terran that a Terran has to "Prepare" for. Wall + Repair-o-Bunker does not count as preparing btw.

 

[Q8D3vil]

Name one thing Protoss or Zerg can do to Terran that a Terran has to "Prepare" for. Wall + Repair-o-Bunker does not count as preparing btw.

putting a bunker is considered preparing.

 

[ChronicleX]

putting a bunker is considered preparing.

No it isn't. You can build the damn bunker as whatever is about to attack you walks towards your base. You can build one anyway then scrap it. That is not preparing, that is standard Terran play.

So common, gimmie something Terran has to prepare for. I DARE you.

 

[Q8D3vil]

No it isn't. You can build the damn bunker as whatever is about to attack you walks towards your base. You can build one anyway then scrap it. That is not preparing, that is standard Terran play.

So common, gimmie something Terran has to prepare for. I DARE you.

3 gate pressure
4 gate
dt rush
void ray rush
6 gate all in

baneling bust

of course you are trolling so i'm won't bother replying back to you after this.

 

[Yoshichan]

Wait. WAIT. Terran needs no preparation?

 

[ChronicleX]

3 gate pressure
4 gate
dt rush
void ray rush
6 gate all in

baneling bust

of course you are trolling so i'm won't bother replying back to you after this.

Standard Terran play can hold all of these unless you are a really bad Terran. But then again considering you think Thor's are a mystical unit that only appear if you say it's name 3 times I did not expect much of you.

However even though your being a dick about it, I'll assist you.

Gate pressure - Don't wall off at ramp.
DT Rush - You seriously have a problem with this as Terran? Build 20 enginering bays and pray you get detection in time. Oh wait.....
Void Rays - Use marine? It's not like the old days where 1 ray could tank andkill 4 marines by itself.
6 gate - Smell fish -Scan base - build more bunker.

As for baneling bust, smell fish or scout nest + make wall stronger by repositioning rax.


Everything you have mentioned can be defended by throwing down a bunker and massing marines. EVERYTHING. You don't need a special building, special tech or unit, you just need to carry on with what you were doing and throw down as many bunkers as required.


The irony of it all is, there is ONE thing Terran has to prepare for from both Z+P and you did not mention it. Ha.

 

[Pandaman]

nothing like offracing in a 1v1 obs and getting manner nexus'd and then 3-0ing the guy infront of the crowd

 

[Holden]

nothing like offracing in a 1v1 obs and getting manner nexus'd and then 3-0ing the guy infront of the crowd

and making people them rate quit

 

[Awesome Animals]

http://imgur.com/a/iWQsB

photo album from MLG, some were on twitter.

Back from Columbus, I almost stayed today, but traveling at night is a pain in the ass. That's what the stream is for.

I almost got a picture with IdrA but I didn't realize how close I was until he was gone And I really wanted to meet Day[9], but he (understandably in so many ways) wasn't walking around up front.


::EDIT::

The alienware booth was set up and you could log on and play a game to test their hardware. Damn impressive computers, but I let my buddy who has never played before try out on my account, and he almost won, but when he was about to attack (with only marines and medivacs, lol) dt's showed up. That was all the protoss built, and it was my fault he lost, but he loved it.

I then played a game and showed him how it was done. Crushed a protoss

 

[WedgeX]

http://imgur.com/a/iWQsB

photo album from MLG, some were on twitter.

Back from Columbus, I almost stayed today, but traveling at night is a pain in the ass. That's what the stream is for.

I almost got a picture with IdrA but I didn't realize how close I was until he was gone And I really wanted to meet Day[9], but he (understandably in so many ways) wasn't walking around up front.


::EDIT::

The alienware booth was set up and you could log on and play a game to test their hardware. Damn impressive computers, but I let my buddy who has never played before try out on my account, and he almost won, but when he was about to attack (with only marines and medivacs, lol) dt's showed up. That was all the protoss built, and it was my fault he lost, but he loved it.

I then played a game and showed him how it was done. Crushed a protoss

Cool pics!

...

Nothing better than beating people on the ladder who bm. Silly kids.

 

[zlatko]

Cool pics!

...

Nothing better than beating people on the ladder who bm. Silly kids.

I BM all the time. It's what keeps me from going Yoshi style on my keyboard. Nerd Rage helps expunge those negative feelings quickly.

 

[Awesome Animals]

I think it is safe to say there will be no Day[9] daily today.

 

[Yoshichan]

I BM all the time. It's what keeps me from going Yoshi style on my keyboard. Nerd Rage helps expunge those negative feelings quickly.

I BM a lot... in fact, here's a picture from from a 2v2 I just played 5 minutes ago and I'm not ashamed of it. Toss in 2v2 is more broken than toss 1v1.

 

[zlatko]

I like asking Toss if it's hard to roll their face across their keyboards to win whenever I lose to one. xD

 

[BigAT]

Haha, I just had some Protoss player on the ladder try the exact same strat MC used against Idra on Tal'Darim (3 pylons walling off between the main and the natural). It might have been because I recently watched Idra fail at it so miserably, but I completely shut it down. I managed to move my drone in time to block off the third pylon, promptly killed the probe and then ran down to his base for the free win.

My main point is, I'm a better Zerg player than Idra.

 

[Neki]

Haha, I just had some Protoss player on the ladder try the exact same strat MC used against Idra on Tal'Darim (3 pylons walling off between the main and the natural). It might have been because I recently watched Idra fail at it so miserably, but I completely shut it down. I managed to move my drone in time to block off the third pylon, promptly killed the probe and then ran down to his base for the free win.

My main point is, I'm a better Zerg player than Idra.

how many placings at tournaments you got

 

[BigAT]

how many placings at tournaments you got

MORE!

 

[Awesome Animals]

Haha, I just had some Protoss player on the ladder try the exact same strat MC used against Idra on Tal'Darim (3 pylons walling off between the main and the natural). It might have been because I recently watched Idra fail at it so miserably, but I completely shut it down. I managed to move my drone in time to block off the third pylon, promptly killed the probe and then ran down to his base for the free win.

My main point is, I'm a better Zerg player than Idra.

The beauty of Bronze! Not all of them follow eSports! I'm sure you are going to see a lot of that in the next few weeks though!

Following my form from MLG I continued to win tonight, five straight baby! Bronze is too easy

 

[PhoenixDark]

Are the MLG finals vods up? Trying to avoid spoilers although I have a feeling it'll be impossible to avoid them; was watching NBA finals

 

[BigAT]

Are the MLG finals vods up? Trying to avoid spoilers although I have a feeling it'll be impossible to avoid them; was watching NBA finals

I don't believe so, someone said it takes a while for them to put the VODs up. The replays get uploaded pretty quickly though.

 

[Corran Horn]

Are the MLG finals vods up? Trying to avoid spoilers although I have a feeling it'll be impossible to avoid them; was watching NBA finals

If its anything like previous MLGs, it takes them a few weeks.

 

[Deadly]

There are some VODs up from the stream no? You can choose which matches to watch. At least that's how it was for the first day.

 

[Corran Horn]

I guess some of the vods are up
http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/live/starcraft_2_blue
or
http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/live/starcraft_2_red


On the player itself there are a 3 bullet+lines, click on it and vod links appear below

 

[ultron87]

Ooh, this is actually a very nice VoD set up for MLG.

It is just totally hidden in the player.

 

[BigAT]

Are the MLG finals vods up? Trying to avoid spoilers although I have a feeling it'll be impossible to avoid them; was watching NBA finals

Looks like the VODs for the finals are up on YouTube now, here's Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6o5JBhnjN0

 

[Corran Horn]

TLs MLG Day 3 Thread

Longest active thread on TeamLiquid - ~28000 replies, 2.1 million views in 14 hours.

 

[Hazaro]

I just hope it can retain all this money and following after a few years.

 

[StopMakingSense]

TLs MLG Day 3 Thread

Holy Toledo!

(they should have included how many bans )

 

[Haunted]

TLs MLG Day 3 Thread

Starcraft II :bow :bow


TL: But no need to get rid of the 20 posts per page limit, oh no. Perfectly readable. Motherfuckers.

 

[Awesome Animals]

I'm just glad the activity has moved back to this thread. To many non regulars

Spoiler

Not enough IdrA love ><

 

[Pandaman]

I'm just glad the activity has moved back to this thread. To many non regulars

Spoiler

Not enough IdrA love ><

so many mad terrans crying imba this weekend mysteriously disappeared after mma won it all.

 

[Awesome Animals]

so many mad terrans crying imba this weekend mysteriously disappeared after mma won it all.

I've never seriously called imba. At least for Terran. Watching IdrA and Losira made me feel that Zerg could use some earlier Anti-air, and some better detection units, even if that is makeing overseers easier to get. IDK, I realize that I am no where near the caliber to discuss imbalances or even understand the true extent a change would cause.

I still feel the SCV needs an invincibility buff, and Marine's need a higher DPS And toss needs less units that can attack, and zerg should have no air units.

 

[zoukka]

Zerg has awesome antiair. It's not the races fault that people make a few sacrificial hydras against phoenixes.

 

[Awesome Animals]

Like I said, IDK what I'm talking about.

 

[zoukka]

Like I said, IDK what I'm talking about.

Doesn't limit your right to post

 

[Won]

so many mad terrans crying imba this weekend mysteriously disappeared after mma won it all.

They are all practicing MMA's "destroy your third OC" build. Seems pretty effective against Zerg!

IDK, I realize that I am no where near the caliber to discuss imbalances or even understand the true extent a change would cause.

As long you paid for the game you are allowed to complain and whine as much as everyone else.

 

[zlatko]

Mmm nerd christmas is the best time of year. MLG, E3, Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition, oh and we had HotS stuff finally. SO much going on I haven't and won't be getting a lot of Star 2 in.

 

[mescalineeyes]

Doesn't limit your right to post

exactly. take a page out of my book. I have no fucking idea yet I am as loud as it gets.

 

[Awesome Animals]

exactly. take a page out of my book. I have no fucking idea yet I am as loud as it gets.

I try not to be the vocal minority. But my already large ego is just getting a larger boost because bronze league isn't giving me a challenge currently. This means that I think I know everything.