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AdventureRacing
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V_Arnold said:
Why are you defending blizzard on this issue? Adding LAN support is only going to be beneficial to those of us who watch SC2 (including you as far as im aware).
I'm not asking them to give LAN to everyone because i know blizzard are scared of pirates. That doesn't mean they can't find a way to implement it for the big tournaments.
Keikaku said:I held a 14-hatch, 14/15 pool build against a 2-Rax Terran for the first time ever. I'm lucky that he didn't commit too much the pressure which allowed me to stabilize pretty nicely and tech to mutas (with a brief stop at banelings)
I basically took the map and tried to stop him from expanding too much. He managed to get his 3rd up and running but any and all other attempts were shut down until it no longer mattered.
I feel pretty good right now, though I still have a lot to improve on, obviously.
Replay here!
EDIT: I'm off to bed, the sweet, sweet smell of detonated banelings in my wake
i just did the same. my scout drone saw his 2 marines/rax and died, so i started up my spawning pool(late pool mistake #1) and prayed he wouldnt go to my main base. luckily he went to my expo, and started killing it. layed down two spines, made 12 lings and two queens (2nd i had to cancel cause expo died) and held his ~8 rines/2 scv. but i let my queen die (mistake #2)
so i remade the queen, made a macro hatch, pulled off gas, and started spamming lings. made some banelings, and eventually took out his bunkered expo and wall off, when his starport was 80% done. i didnt think i had much of a chance, and probably would have lost if he was more marauder heavy than marine, but its all good. yay for banelings.
AdventureRacing said:
Basically, I made peace in my mind with the fact that Blizz is not treating this game as a LAN-focused multiplayer experience with added online mode, but simply as an online game.
Would it be better if tournament LAN was available? Yep.
Would it leak anyway? Most likely.
And would there be ethernet port issues, keyboard/mouse issues, computer freezes in tournaments? YES.
Therefore, I do not think Blizz wants to risk this. It only has to leak once.
mescalineeyes
Banned
people thinking blizzard is going to create a special version of sc2 for tournaments are out of their minds. sorry.
AdventureRacing
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V_Arnold said:
I know blizz doesn't want to risk this. However as a consumer who is negatively impacted by this decision obviously im not going to agree with it.
mescalineeyes said:
I didn't say i think they're going to, i was more just thinking out loud.
Personally i think LAN should be a standard feature for all versions of SC2.
mescalineeyes said:
im pretty sure, NASL uses some sort of LAN, since sometimes you can see the Lobby with all the users with the same portrait (the default one) and the games aren't recorded on normal profiles ( you cant see results in players normal profile match history ) And as far as i know, they haven't got a problem with battle.net ( they have like ~500 games )
And i'm pretty sure GSL code A / S uses it too
But i think blizzard is just scared to give it to "smaller" tournys like MLG where there is a open bracket and anybody can just go in mlg and atempt to "hack it" or something.
mescalineeyes
Banned
NASL creates a new account for each match so that results don't get spoiled.
MLGLee said on live on 3 yesterday that they wont be releasing replays until after the event is over next time because people were getting the ids and friend codes from them to spam the players with.
All it would take to fix is a busy mode that actually works, but thats asking too much of blizz.
They also tried creating lots of new accounts for the players to use and actually ran out of all the codes that blizz gave them for the weekend.
All it would take to fix is a busy mode that actually works, but thats asking too much of blizz.
They also tried creating lots of new accounts for the players to use and actually ran out of all the codes that blizz gave them for the weekend.
mescalineeyes
Banned
I think if you are a pro player or somewhat famous, the current battle.net infrastructure is pretty much a trainwreck.
TheThunder
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Blizzard higher up CEOs and suits from Activision simply don't give a fuck about lan or making lan tournaments experience easier or more enjoyable.
I basically gave up a long time ago when it comes to this stuff and blizz.
I basically gave up a long time ago when it comes to this stuff and blizz.
Awesome Animals
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Wow, busy morning means I missed a lot. Long post.
It is pretty simple, but if they are Grandmasters then they can choose to disable friend adding. I suppose it is a smart move, but honestly I wish they didn't have that option. I may not understand the friends feature correctly, but when I add a friend to my list, do I automatically appear on their friends list? I have assumed it works like Twitter follows, which I think is a fantastic mechanism because it allows us to follow our favorite players without forcing them to have a congested friends list. And if it isn't how it works, then Blizzard should seriously consider this. It is part of what makes Twitter great. And if it doesn't work like that, then it should follow the Facebook model of adding friends because it seems stupid to force someone on your friendslist if you didn't agree to it.
This really makes the most sense when discussing issues such as spamming and pro-gamer disturbances. Switching to busy does absolutely nothing but informing people of your status. But if it doesn't prevent people from interrupting you, then what is the point. Terribly broken feature, and a do not disturb or 'hide' feature seems necessary.
All tournaments need to do this, or rather all pro-gamers need to have a 'tournament' account. Honestly, Blizzard should have no problem handing out accounts like this on a request basis. It becomes up to the teams and participants to use these accounts responsibly. While the NASL has been critized for many things (although I think they have done a great job as a start-up, and a very ambitious league), I think this is something they should be commended for. It makes so much sense.
Blizzard could even just have a 'tournament mode' for all accounts that can turn on, prevent disturbances, and hide results of games from match histories. This goes against the idea to promote players from following pro-gamers that I had previously mentioned, so I would prefer this to not happen. But if I can come up with these ideas, why can't they?
Keikaku, we all felt that you played wonderfully. In general you had amazing map control, and I think the general sentiment is that you could have been a little more aggresive at Zargle's front, and expanded more. Your muta control was a beautiful sight too.
IdrA playlist is easy; just add dubstep, with a lot of Skillrex. Oh, but you have to make sure you skip to the next song before the current song finishes.
BigAT said:
It is pretty simple, but if they are Grandmasters then they can choose to disable friend adding. I suppose it is a smart move, but honestly I wish they didn't have that option. I may not understand the friends feature correctly, but when I add a friend to my list, do I automatically appear on their friends list? I have assumed it works like Twitter follows, which I think is a fantastic mechanism because it allows us to follow our favorite players without forcing them to have a congested friends list. And if it isn't how it works, then Blizzard should seriously consider this. It is part of what makes Twitter great. And if it doesn't work like that, then it should follow the Facebook model of adding friends because it seems stupid to force someone on your friendslist if you didn't agree to it.
Mairu said:
This really makes the most sense when discussing issues such as spamming and pro-gamer disturbances. Switching to busy does absolutely nothing but informing people of your status. But if it doesn't prevent people from interrupting you, then what is the point. Terribly broken feature, and a do not disturb or 'hide' feature seems necessary.
mescalineeyes said:
All tournaments need to do this, or rather all pro-gamers need to have a 'tournament' account. Honestly, Blizzard should have no problem handing out accounts like this on a request basis. It becomes up to the teams and participants to use these accounts responsibly. While the NASL has been critized for many things (although I think they have done a great job as a start-up, and a very ambitious league), I think this is something they should be commended for. It makes so much sense.
Blizzard could even just have a 'tournament mode' for all accounts that can turn on, prevent disturbances, and hide results of games from match histories. This goes against the idea to promote players from following pro-gamers that I had previously mentioned, so I would prefer this to not happen. But if I can come up with these ideas, why can't they?
Keikaku said:
Keikaku, we all felt that you played wonderfully. In general you had amazing map control, and I think the general sentiment is that you could have been a little more aggresive at Zargle's front, and expanded more. Your muta control was a beautiful sight too.
mcrae said:find me an idra playlist now, AA
IdrA playlist is easy; just add dubstep, with a lot of Skillrex. Oh, but you have to make sure you skip to the next song before the current song finishes.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Blame mlg. They used the same caster IDs for like last 3 mlg's. People have them on friend list and easily can get the players id or new ones after a game.
But a true dnd or option to decline invites/lobby automatically would be nice.
But a true dnd or option to decline invites/lobby automatically would be nice.
Hey guys check out this "interview" with Idra at MLG.... I thought it was funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPskOimdW4c&feature=player_embedded
Mock if old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPskOimdW4c&feature=player_embedded
Mock if old.
ShallNoiseUpon
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Ultrabum said:
All of those hotbid interviews are amazing. Dude is a stone cold killer of a troll.
Awesome Animals
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Q8D3vil said:
I don't think he meant they need to replace IdrA, just add someone who can add a little more energy into the discussions.
ChronicleX
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V_Arnold said:
Do you even know what LAN is? Can you even comprehend that all games played on a LAN can innately run on a LAN? Every single problem with every single game up to this point is because of battlenet. IF it was the tournaments own fault, be it their net or watnot the worst possible thing to happen would be that we loose the stream. The match WOULD GO ON, LAG FREE.
For fuck sake, get your tongue out of the Actibliz arsehole before you choke on their shit.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
http://www.sc2ranks.com/c/3465/neogaf/BigAT said:
ChronicleX said:
Get the fuck down from your imaginary high horse, because assuming I do not know what LAN is just gets you to another man's ignore list yet again - and that wont help your case.
Chill out, take a deep breath, relax, count the number of times there has been a game restart/replay needed, or heck, count the times when there was any kind of stop/lag and compare it to the number of games played online without problems. And then stare in amazement.
It is really the end of the world when spoiled people have nothing else to worry about than a few DC in an online game that they did not even play. Amazing.
Your bitching and namecalling wont force Blizz to include it, people enjoy the game, people buy the game, people watch the game and pro players still play the game regardless of any inclusion of the LAN mode. Therefore, this is POINTLESS. Really, go and practice SCII instead of this. Or do not play at all, go and play games with LAN (like SC1) on LAN.
ChronicleX
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Sorry I can't understand a thing you say. It sounds like you got your tongue stuck in an arsehole.
It is not my high horse kid, its the community pony that blizzard currently locks in the stable, doesn't feed it then expects it to eat the shit they plop in a bucket once every few months. SCII is a LAN game. It does not need battlenet, blizzards anal attitude towards not including it is counter-productive to esports.
I repeat - SCII is NOT an Online game, it is a game with online support. The same reason Football is not played on your TV, it is televised. The broadcast does not mess with the game. If you get a powercut or you loose your signal, they do NOT force a regame.
The only reason this is happening with SCII atm is because blizzard are on a high horse, shitting on all us pony's.
It is not my high horse kid, its the community pony that blizzard currently locks in the stable, doesn't feed it then expects it to eat the shit they plop in a bucket once every few months. SCII is a LAN game. It does not need battlenet, blizzards anal attitude towards not including it is counter-productive to esports.
I repeat - SCII is NOT an Online game, it is a game with online support. The same reason Football is not played on your TV, it is televised. The broadcast does not mess with the game. If you get a powercut or you loose your signal, they do NOT force a regame.
The only reason this is happening with SCII atm is because blizzard are on a high horse, shitting on all us pony's.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
At this conversation
ChronicleX
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That does not magically make Blizzard right and the community wrong. Remove that tongue already.V_Arnold said:
ChronicleX
Banned
If the "community" contains a shit eating Jester that can't figure out that eating shit is not healthy, no bloody wonder I am far from it. Who wants to be near a shit eating Jester that is against LAN support?V_Arnold said:Oh, do not equate yourself with the community, man.
You are far, far from that
Awesome Animals said:Keikaku, we all felt that you played wonderfully. In general you had amazing map control, and I think the general sentiment is that you could have been a little more aggresive at Zargle's front, and expanded more. Your muta control was a beautiful sight too.
I waited all day through work to watch that replay, got 10 minutes in and couldnt watch anymore. ugh....so not good. Next time will be better.
ChronicleX
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Pandaman said:
At least they like my DJ Pony.
Pandaman said:
I haven't really been into the pony thread so I can't comment on what they said during the match but, if it's any consolation, I have watched the show as you suggested and, as you said, it is pretty good. Amazing animation considering it's all done in Flash, too.
EDIT: Chronicle is banned. Just according to me *smirks*
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