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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
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You shouldn't be forced to make anything.Sblargh said:
A well rounded force is the best. Start off with a zealot / sentry timing HuK does (for example), secure your expo, force units from Z, keep your sentries alive for mutas, get your robo, play standard.
* 2 stargates seem excessive. Are you going to be using those buildings the entire game?
How about you chronoboost your 1 stargate, and tack on an extra gateway so you don't die to roaches?
Sblargh said:
The two builds I like are 3 warpgate pressure -> expand -> 5 gate push. I remember Nony/Liquid Tyler winning against Idra with this during their recent games on Gosucoaching if you want a video showing it. Key is really to not commit with the 3 gates, it's just to keep the zerg player honest cuz if they only drone you can do serious damage or end the game right there. Don't commit to it though, gotta have units to keep your expansion safe to have enough resources to make the 5 gate push the real hammer. This tactic is safer than it used to be given so many zerg players favoring ling/muta less than they used to.
The other build I like is 2 gate, 1 stargate pheonix harass -> expand. The idea is you get enough pheonix's to do some nice harass on overlord/queens, while still having enough units to cover your expansion. Most zergs will go hydras instead of spire to respond to the harass, which you can abuse by going Collosus tech + more gates off of your 2 bases. It's safer than you might think against a counter attack because you're limiting the zergs ability to produce by killing overlords and queens. You do have to be prepared for the roach/hydra push before your collosai though, but good forcefields and a good gateway count will get you through it.
At least that's what I do in PvZ, I think the match up is pretty balanced with a lot of room for creative and varying builds/strategies.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Boxer's (SlayerBoxer) sponsor is Intel. "Intel will sponsor Boxer with $180,000 but will also invest in a new Starcraft 2 Pro Team centered on Boxer to the tune of $270,000."
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166525
God daaaaaaamn thats alot of money.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166525
God daaaaaaamn thats alot of money.
Can we please have a Starcraft II Progaming and Tournaments mega-thread?
I'm kinda sick of seeing it in the thread where we discuss the game itself, set-up nights to play with/against each-other, talk about game announcements, etc. and not about watching it or players who are damn good at it.
I'm kinda sick of seeing it in the thread where we discuss the game itself, set-up nights to play with/against each-other, talk about game announcements, etc. and not about watching it or players who are damn good at it.
vicissitudes
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MrMister said:
The GSL thread is already huge. How about either all pro sc2 discussion go into the GSL thread, or all pro sc2 minus GSL stuff go in here?
pieatorium
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been a while since i played but finally got around to loading up, lost first 2 games because of bad macro and won the third with kirix style 2 base baneling bust on metal close positions. Didn't outright win with the bust but the muta follow up he had no answer for.
Blizzard released 3 cool new videos about each race. Jim Raynor narrates them, nothing ground breaking, just go over all the units/briefly about the lore. Nothing you haven't seen, but still, pretty nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0g0MpllFCs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq74R7wWAnQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmu8PsUDDtQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0g0MpllFCs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq74R7wWAnQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmu8PsUDDtQ
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
No thx. This would just become the bitching/whining about balance thread. This is all about SC2, not just strategies :/ Im cool with setting up a thread for a certain tournament for the weekend/GSL, but this should still be the catch-all anything SC2 thread.MrMister said:
Pandaman said:
I'm 1600-ish and yes, they don't matter.
Some games I stomp. Some games I get stomped. I have absolutely no solid builds. I just build a pool at some point and scout and build something else. Sometimes I feel like I should be in copper when I lose to ridiculous shit and sometimes I feel like a pro for winning with infestors only or some shit.
I guess I could practice a build or two fanatically and be the first in my ladder, but I have no interest in playing like that.
I'm batman.
Is there something going on with Starcraft or something? 3 games in a row now, my whole internet service breaks. My cable, internet, and phone lines all go down during a game. It could be coincidence...but I don't know. 3 times in a row! Windows says "cannot detect DNS server" or something and the last time it lasted for like an hour.
Anybody else have this problem?
Anybody else have this problem?
vicissitudes said:
Or...since this is the official SCII thread, it contains EVERYTHING relevant, and the tournament threads are for the actual tournament talks. Intel forming a progamer team has nothing to do with one specific tournament, and with all the balance discussions in this forum, it makes sense that we do not close our eyes just because someone might not like this side of the game
MLG Dallas thread is here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=412223
ShallNoiseUpon
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TheThunder
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Sad news. Is he gonna try for GSL 3 ?ShallNoiseUpon said:
I really hope he starts owing shit with his Zerg and show people how it's done.
ShallNoiseUpon
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TheThunder said:
No, he is leaving fairly soon as far as I can tell from that link. Also kind of a funny coincidence that the Steam Deal today is Supreme Command 2, a game TLO used to play with his brother.
TheRagnCajun
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Sooooo I have never touched a starcraft game but I'm supposed to play with my freind who gave me a guest pass tonight. What's the dumbest, easiest to play strategy? My freind usually plays protoss and I'm playing with him, not against.
mescalineeyes
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TheRagnCajun said:
mass marines. doesn't matter what your enemy does. as long as you're good with your mouse you should win.
:>
ShallNoiseUpon
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mescalineeyes said:
Unless he goes tanks or banelings or colossus... :lol
ShallNoiseUpon
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mcrae said:
Foxer has really good micro
it burns to say something nice about it. Fuck Foxer
Has anyone laddering had to deal with Marine spam yet?
TheRagnCajun
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Yeah I don't want to have to worry about a lot of micro management or click to use powers yet lol. I basically have an hour to get aquainted with the game and then we'll start a match.
Mass producing marines sounds easy enough. Do people usually rush with that? or turtle? Somewhere inbetween?
Mass producing marines sounds easy enough. Do people usually rush with that? or turtle? Somewhere inbetween?
ShallNoiseUpon
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Slasher said:heeey, did someone delete my long coverage post?
Wrong SC2 thread, friend? Here you go.
TheRagnCajun said:
to be completely honest, i think protoss is the easiest beginning race, because you can use only warpgate units and win. mass zealots/stalkers with either some collosus or immortals for support and just group them all and attack your way to victory
* this could be because im used to zerg and only have 1 control group for production structues, so terran having to use 1 for command center, barracks, factory, AAAAND starport, and then more groups for actual armies, is too much.
protoss 1 = nexus, w= warpgates, 2 = robotics if needed, and 3= entire army
ShallNoiseUpon
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mcrae said:
My only argument against that is that Terran structures kind of correlate to what they build. Barracks trains troops, Factory makes mechanical vehicles and Starport makes ships. I know for me, learning toss was confusing because I was like "wtf does a gateway do?" I may also be underestimating his ability and knowledge of the game, so...yeah. Also mass MMM is kind of easy and kind of good.
Mentioned in the other thread, but MLG goes in MLG thread.Slasher said:No I mean, I asked him a few days ago when dallas would be coming up this weekend, and he said he'd put it in the op/wouldn't have a problem with it, so would you guys please not delete after i make the post after this?
Don't worry, I'm sure everyone will be in there.
Also only admins and mods can delete posts, so if it was deleted that was probably the reason.
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