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[AdventureRacing]

ZvZ is just a complete coinflip decided entirely by luck, just ask Nestea.

 

[MrKnives]

IdrA reminds me of Hudson from Aliens

 

[zoukka]

TBH ZvZ is really bad. Not PvP bad, but 90% of the time you won't make it to the mid-game.

 

[syllogism]

zvz can be a bit retarded, but seeing how playing (well) is his job, this is nigh inexcusable.

Playing in $100 tournaments isn't his job. It might as well been a ladder match

 

[Dooraven]

I think PvP is much much better than than ZvZ after the 1.4 patch though. Less Coinflips and 4 gate is much more defendable now.

 

[zoukka]

I think PvP is much much better than than ZvZ after the 1.4 patch though. Less Coinflips and 4 gate is much more defendable now.

We'll see. A lot of people said the same when they made the Warpgate research longer and sentry build time shorter. Didn't change shit.

 

[AdventureRacing]

I don't think ZvZ is a coinflip at all, you get more scouting information in ZvZ than any other matchup. I love how ZvZ is right now to watch and play although i understand i have weird tastes.

 

[Vaporak]

I think PvP is much much better than than ZvZ after the 1.4 patch though. Less Coinflips and 4 gate is much more defendable now.

That's really not going to change that much. It's still going to be the first one to expand dies which is the real problem with PvP.

 

[Dooraven]

That's really not going to change that much. It's still going to be the first one to expand dies which is the real problem with PvP.

Well you can't really fix that without changing the entire Protoss race due to warp in mechanic, but I think we'll get a stable 1 base 3 gate robo with a few immortals into blink build which will be less coinflippy than ZvZ

 

[Q8D3vil]

Playing in $100 tournaments isn't his job. It might as well been a ladder match

i laughed.
why are you defending him so much ?
he is not worth defending or cheering for anymore.

 

[mescalineeyes]

Playing in $100 tournaments isn't his job. It might as well been a ladder match

still, don't you think it's bad form from a professional to forfeit a game in a tournament for no good reason?
Also, it makes him look bad. Not sure what sponsors etc. would think of such a move.

 

[Mairu]

still, don't you think it's bad form from a professional to forfeit a game in a tournament for no good reason?
Also, it makes him look bad. Not sure what sponsors etc. would think of such a move.

I doubt they give a shit what he does considering sponsors care about exposure and there's no player in the foreign scene who gets as much exposure as he does, it doesn't matter if he wins or loses

I don't really like him anymore, cheer for him, or expect him to do well though!

 

[Dooraven]

Not sure what sponsors etc. would think of such a move.

Don't think EG cares that much tbh, idra's shenanigans gives them a lot of publicity in both ways.

 

[mescalineeyes]

Well, yeah, EG doesn't seem like the kind of team that needs its players to do well. Am I right, Machine, incontrol, axslav?

 

[Q8D3vil]

Well, yeah, EG doesn't seem like the kind of team that needs its players to do well. Am I right, Machine, incontrol, axslav?

if they want results they can buy it.

 

[syllogism]

i laughed.
why are you defending him so much ?
he is not worth defending or cheering for anymore.

Why do you care so much, hey this works both ways.

 

[syllogism]

Well, yeah, EG doesn't seem like the kind of team that needs its players to do well. Am I right, Machine, incontrol, axslav?

Yes, same with TL. Luckily they bought some success with Hero

 

[Holden]

Why do you care so much, hey this works both ways.

Devil hates EG cause they have so much $$, even thow devil lives with oil money

 

[Q8D3vil]

Devil hates EG cause they have so much $$, even thow devil lives with oil money

hehehe, holden gets it

 

[Dooraven]

Yes, same with TL. Luckily they bought some success with Hero

I seriously don't understand your hate with TL.

 

[syllogism]

I seriously don't understand you're hate with TL.

I love TL, but I'm implying that you've to be consistent with your hate. If you hate EG for having players who don't perform and buying a good korean, you've to realize the same applies to TL, to a lesser extent

 

[slidewinder]

Well, yeah, EG doesn't seem like the kind of team that needs its players to do well. Am I right, Machine, incontrol, axslav?

They've obviously got a really good business team. I would assume those guys are just on contracts such that it's cheaper to let them run out than to attempt to cut them loose.

 

[Mairu]

TL acquired a player who did practically nothing in Korea before joining Liquid. Okay, maybe he was a Code A player for a week considering he got knocked out in the round of 32. EG got a player who won the biggest (in terms of prize pool) tournament in North America.

I don't really care about either of them since I have no problem with players making more money but it's a little different.

 

[syllogism]

They've obviously got a really good business team. I would assume those guys are just on contracts such that it's cheaper to let them run out than to attempt to cut them loose.

No, it's much more likely that they've cheap contracts and it's better to just keep them around as, despite their lack of success, they are quite popular and/or get a lot of exposure

 

[slidewinder]

Yeah, right. As long as they're cheap it doesn't much matter.

 

[V_Arnold]

I was scared, horrified, and amazed at the same time by Team Liquid's sheningans regarding EG's Puma acquisition.

Seriously, like a spoiled child who gots his wallet stolen in the big city when he is alone in a pub for the first time. I can see their arms crossed at their chest, trying to look as grim as possible, saying "buh dat team is desthooooying e-sport aaand is unprofessionahh!"

The fact that even the players were allowed to voice their quite biased opinion on that matter made things even worse.

Ever since then, I just cant respect TL as a team.

 

[MisterAnderson]

Is gomtv different or something? It's not opening the gom player anymore and it just imbedded in the browser...

 

[HolyCheck]

Is gomtv different or something? It's not opening the gom player anymore and it just imbedded in the browser...

Code A Qualifiers (aka Code B) they do it on twitch TV

 

[Holden]

Everybody

Spoiler

who wants to be good

should try out this micro trainer , cella was using it earlier, its relly good it has all 3 races with 10 challenges each and it gets harder more you play, its alot better better then the sc2 challenge thing

http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/dargleins-micro-trainer/

but you need to change the gamespeed to fastest:

file - preference - test document - gamespeed ( Fastest )

I've been using it for protoss and its really good.

 

[hamchan]

Everybody

Spoiler

who wants to be good

should try out this micro trainer , cella was using it earlier, its relly good it has all 3 races with 10 challenges each and it gets harder more you play, its alot better better then the sc2 challenge thing

http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/dargleins-micro-trainer/

but you need to change the gamespeed to fastest:

file - preference - test document - gamespeed ( Fastest )

I've been using it for protoss and its really good.

Thanks for the link.

 

[Q8D3vil]

Everybody

Spoiler

who wants to be good

should try out this micro trainer , cella was using it earlier, its relly good it has all 3 races with 10 challenges each and it gets harder more you play, its alot better better then the sc2 challenge thing

http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/dargleins-micro-trainer/

but you need to change the gamespeed to fastest:

file - preference - test document - gamespeed ( Fastest )

I've been using it for protoss and its really good.

this is amazing but i can't figure out how to change the speed :/
thanks

 

[Striek]

Y'all like two months LTTP on that map.

 

[Holden]

dont hate striek

 

[Q8D3vil]

striek is killing esport.

 

[Striek]

I'm trying my best Devil, trying my best.

 

[Zen]

Yes, same with TL. Luckily they bought some success with Hero

TL has had plenty of success without buying it, the same can't really be said for EG. A quick glance at each teams respective acquisitions shows the similarities really end with 'they acquired players'.

I was scared, horrified, and amazed at the same time by Team Liquid's sheningans regarding EG's Puma acquisition.

Seriously, like a spoiled child who gots his wallet stolen in the big city when he is alone in a pub for the first time. I can see their arms crossed at their chest, trying to look as grim as possible, saying "buh dat team is desthooooying e-sport aaand is unprofessionahh!"

The fact that even the players were allowed to voice their quite biased opinion on that matter made things even worse.

Ever since then, I just cant respect TL as a team.

How ever you slice it, what EG did was considered low by almost the whole community, not just Team Liquid. I can see that letting the players comment on it might be poor form, but what happened was a bit of a shit storm through every layer of the SC2 scene.

 

[fanboi]

TL has had plenty of success without buying it, the same can't really be said for EG. A quick glance at each teams respective acquisitions shows that the only similarities are that they squired players.

hmm, EG with idra did good, (2nd highest placement in GSL?) MLG victory among others I belive.

Well, that was old idra...

 

[ShallNoiseUpon]

I would just like to mention this guy qualified for Code A again:

This guy is amazing. ST.Superstar fan for life.

 

[Zen]

hmm, EG with idra did good, (2nd highest placement in GSL?) MLG victory among others I belive.

Well, that was old idra...

I think Jinro actually has that (Round of 4), or he and Idra were tied for it?

 

[Keikaku]

IdrA reminds me of Hudson from Aliens

hudson_game_over.jpg

This is a better representation of Idra, as seen on Reddit:

 

[Dooraven]

This is a better representation of Idra, as seen on Reddit:

lol but he's famous for not even doing that.

 

[slidewinder]

I would just like to mention this guy qualified for Code A again:

Such a badass. Try as you might to kill her, ESPORTS WILL NEVER DIE!!!!

 

[ShallNoiseUpon]

The only person I'm sad about not making code A is

Spoiler

oGsTheSTC

. Dude has some awesome games.

 

[fanboi]

I think Jinro actually has that (Round of 4), or he and Idra were tied for it?

He has the highest (beat idra for that place).

 

[ShallNoiseUpon]

FXOpen Korean King of the Hill is on:

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/FXOpen

Marineking playing right now against Cezanne.

 

[Holden]

Moon showing relly good performence at LG Chinease tournament

beating MC And Nada but losing to Loner. Hope he gets a chance to get into code S some day.

http://www.tatazu.com/index.php?action-viewnews-itemid-23237

 

[V_Arnold]

How ever you slice it, what EG did was considered low by almost the whole community, not just Team Liquid. I can see that letting the players comment on it might be poor form, but what happened was a bit of a shit storm through every layer of the SC2 scene.

Haha. Greedy "not paying their players" korean coaches must have been shocked.
Armchair generals on TL forums whose main hobby is "being shocked" or "being offensed" or "worrying over esport" instead of playing must have been shocked.

Everybody else? Not so much.

 

[Dooraven]

I dunno how moon does awesomely in non korean events and plays crap in korea.

 

[syllogism]

How ever you slice it, what EG did was considered low by almost the whole community, not just Team Liquid. I can see that letting the players comment on it might be poor form, but what happened was a bit of a shit storm through every layer of the SC2 scene.

Almost all players leave teams to join "better" ones at some point of their career. Basically the only exceptions to this are players who are already famous from BW/WC3 and thus get good teams immediately. Sometimes players happen to leave their old team for a reason unrelated to not being happy with salary/whatever, but this is very rare and sometimes it's just an excuse. The only difference is that TL has a bunch of fanboys who think players should be satisfied with whatever they are offering and anyone who dares to offer their players better opportunities and salary are hurting Esports(TM). Huk's contract was about to expire and he wanted to get offers from other teams and asked nazgul for a permission to negotiate with other teams. He got a better offer.

 

[Q8D3vil]

loner winning that tournament doesn't make sense at all. he even 2-0 everyone.
he must have been practicing hard.