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Dooraven said:
You can watch on GOM if you have any of the current tourney passes.
Also Tyler is re-streaming and commenting on Twitch
oh shit didnt realize there was a real tread in gaming for this
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You can watch on GOM if you have any of the current tourney passes.
Also Tyler is re-streaming and commenting on Twitch
oh shit didnt realize there was a real tread in gaming for this
Terran saying that its more APM required ---> lie
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268783
but since this game is so less apm required zerg kinda has a small advantage with the "SD" instead of "S" ( for making workers )
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268783
but since this game is so less apm required zerg kinda has a small advantage with the "SD" instead of "S" ( for making workers )
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I believe GOM's exclusivity was a 2 year deal?
So I played this guy PvP and I learnt a new build from him.
I haven't seen it done before (I'm high level Platinum should be promoted to Diamond hopefully)
My PvP matchup's I'm usually going 3 gate to Robo and get sentries to forcefield the ramp to play defense. I never like playing the aggressor in PvP.
Well, when I was playing this guy I thought I would do a poke with my stalker/sentry army with some zealots and he countered within the first 8 minutes with 2 immortals zealots and some stalkers.
Obviously my army was crushed.
Anyways, the build order is pretty much going Robo right after the Core and then pumping two immortals as fast possible.
I have no idea how good this build is but against my last 4 protoss opponents I have done this build and working on the timing and have crushed my opponent very easily. May not work against the best players but for now in Platinum it does wonders.
I go 13 gate most cases then gas on 15 and then core on 16/17.
I do not take a 2nd gas until the first immortal is done. Also I constantly pump zealots from the gateway. I get 3 zealots and then 1 stalker and warp gate then should finish around that time.
During the robo production I either throw down 1 or 2 gates depending on money and what not.
You should have enough money to drop down 2 extra gates and then produce 2 immortals with constant production still. After the 2nd immortal I produce an observer.
How I currently play the build.
1. If you get a 2nd gas early and only want to do 1 immortal you could get a sentry to help force field the wrap. However, by the time warp gate finishes you should have 3 zealots 1 stalker and an immortal. You should be able to hold off any early attack with the zealots taking the bulk of the damage and with your immortal easily killing of stalkers.
And your 3 warp gate should finish to be able to produce units and then your 2nd immortal pops out.
Now if you defend successfully he should be on the retreat. Once this occurs I go on the attack with my army and throw down a proxy pylon and then bring my observer to get the high ground sight to pick off his army if he force fields the ramp. You can easily hold the ramp and take a safe expansion.
Keep poking with the Observer to try and snipe any stalkers or any units on the high ground.
I then either transition into Collossus or get a warp prism and drop some zealots on the mineral line to screw with his economy.
You should then get an advantage economy wise and then win.
I have no idea if this build is really that good or not but I've tried it and so far it has worked.
Also if the opponent goes 3 gate -> 1 Robo, you should have 2 immortals to his one and can still contain him to one base while you expand and go colossus or whatever tech route you want.
Also - its important to kill the scouting probe before you drop the robo, it is hard with just a zealot so that could be a problem with the build for the higher leagues. But once the core is done he will think you are producing a stalker so will probably leave your base and then you can throw down the Robo.
Also, with him scouting you on one gas he will think it's possibly a 4 warp gate and will go stalkers and his own 4 warp gate to counter and with your immortals should easily win the fight.
If he does go one gas you could go immortal>observer>immortal just in case its a DT rush or something.
Comments / Criticisms on the build?
I haven't seen it done before (I'm high level Platinum should be promoted to Diamond hopefully)
My PvP matchup's I'm usually going 3 gate to Robo and get sentries to forcefield the ramp to play defense. I never like playing the aggressor in PvP.
Well, when I was playing this guy I thought I would do a poke with my stalker/sentry army with some zealots and he countered within the first 8 minutes with 2 immortals zealots and some stalkers.
Obviously my army was crushed.
Anyways, the build order is pretty much going Robo right after the Core and then pumping two immortals as fast possible.
I have no idea how good this build is but against my last 4 protoss opponents I have done this build and working on the timing and have crushed my opponent very easily. May not work against the best players but for now in Platinum it does wonders.
I go 13 gate most cases then gas on 15 and then core on 16/17.
I do not take a 2nd gas until the first immortal is done. Also I constantly pump zealots from the gateway. I get 3 zealots and then 1 stalker and warp gate then should finish around that time.
During the robo production I either throw down 1 or 2 gates depending on money and what not.
You should have enough money to drop down 2 extra gates and then produce 2 immortals with constant production still. After the 2nd immortal I produce an observer.
How I currently play the build.
1. If you get a 2nd gas early and only want to do 1 immortal you could get a sentry to help force field the wrap. However, by the time warp gate finishes you should have 3 zealots 1 stalker and an immortal. You should be able to hold off any early attack with the zealots taking the bulk of the damage and with your immortal easily killing of stalkers.
And your 3 warp gate should finish to be able to produce units and then your 2nd immortal pops out.
Now if you defend successfully he should be on the retreat. Once this occurs I go on the attack with my army and throw down a proxy pylon and then bring my observer to get the high ground sight to pick off his army if he force fields the ramp. You can easily hold the ramp and take a safe expansion.
Keep poking with the Observer to try and snipe any stalkers or any units on the high ground.
I then either transition into Collossus or get a warp prism and drop some zealots on the mineral line to screw with his economy.
You should then get an advantage economy wise and then win.
I have no idea if this build is really that good or not but I've tried it and so far it has worked.
Also if the opponent goes 3 gate -> 1 Robo, you should have 2 immortals to his one and can still contain him to one base while you expand and go colossus or whatever tech route you want.
Also - its important to kill the scouting probe before you drop the robo, it is hard with just a zealot so that could be a problem with the build for the higher leagues. But once the core is done he will think you are producing a stalker so will probably leave your base and then you can throw down the Robo.
Also, with him scouting you on one gas he will think it's possibly a 4 warp gate and will go stalkers and his own 4 warp gate to counter and with your immortals should easily win the fight.
If he does go one gas you could go immortal>observer>immortal just in case its a DT rush or something.
Comments / Criticisms on the build?
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Hmm sc2con disbands.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Eh no power but they could get the teams together as a whole to do something. While they decline any involvement with the NASL situation...I would guess they probably did.
Corran Horn said:
What did they actually do for the Korean scene? Nothing.
When one windows closes another one opens. Maybe something new will be created that will be more helpful.
If I remember correctly the SC2Con isn't even the SC2 Player Association they have. The one where are all the teams.
SC2Con had pretty much nothing.
Edit: Some of the Whitera shirt contest shirts are pretty good
Holy hell I've been getting Bm'd by every Protoss player, tonight, with the exception of one. In fact it doesn't even matter if I win or lose, it's just insane, like Zerg qq on steroids without the little man complex.
I'll remember that I'm not suppose to have micro the next time I'm splitting marines against speed banes.
And about 2 others that I don't have the chat open for anymore.
I'll remember that I'm not suppose to have micro the next time I'm splitting marines against speed banes.
And about 2 others that I don't have the chat open for anymore.
i love rts and i though the campaign was meh.red731 said:
maybe you should try company of heroes after finishing sc2.
dimaga streaming if anyone is interested
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/mTwDIMAGA
Q8D3vil said:
Probably my favorite Zerg stream. I love how he always explains everything he does. Talked about the patch a little a while ago.
I liked the campaign. I thought the mission were very nice, the story not so nice. So Red731 just take your time and play it through and join us in MP when you're ready
broodlords are gas expensive, also: look at the clock. :\ 19minute broods in a zvz is almost as crazy as corrans build.Q8D3vil said:
the mineral surplus is a consequence of aggressive zerg builds in a passive game, he expected lots of roach trading that didn't happen and had tuned his economy for that. when he ended up teching off a contain the minerals shoot up. its not uncommon.
i tried it on the ladder yesterday too.Dooraven said:
won a couple big fights and then basetraded vs a broodlord army to win the game. that was 3 base on tal-darim tho. it seems a lot of zergs are skipping the +1 roach for their pushes so im having a lot of defensive success i really shouldn't have.
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