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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT3| GL HF NO GG
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slidewinder
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In multiple goddamn languages. This is not some half-assed million-dollar vidya game tournament.
fanboi said:
I read somewhere that it's 1.7 million dollars, 1 million is only for the winning team.
Anyways..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91ISfcuzDw
Yoshichan said:
Yea all the teams have played it for some time already. Bastards..
Knives! GET ON THIS RIGHT NOW! 
V_Arnold said:Knives! GET ON THIS RIGHT NOW!
Can't listen to it right now
working.I'm going to the gym after work so I usually listen it then. I heard it was a good episode. Geoff is a egoistic asshole but he fits on the show.
Artosis already training for Dota 2?
slidewinder
Banned
LoL's pretty fun to play. As a genre, they're fundamentally horrible to watch, though, the LoL championship's spectator numbers notwithstanding.
Striek said:I don't 'get' DOTA style games
That SC2 custom one that y'all like is realllllly boring. Thats the only one I've played though.
That's because all of SC2 custom "dota's" are pretty terrible.
I didn't get into LoL or HoN either though. Dota was fun to play with friends.
They don't need to balance the game in the way you would for any other game, it's pretty much a port of DotA. It's not dumb at all it'll get loads of attention and shows that Valve are serious about making the game huge, more than Blizzard have ever done.Q8D3vil said:
Ikuu said:
Throwing a million dollar tournament speaks more for the shockvalue they want from it. Not that they want it to have a big community following.
It's just marketing, good type of marketing but nothing to do with making it bigger long term.
Dota 2 isn't the first game that have tried to make it a big esports title by throwing money at it. It will either happen or it won't but it will depend on the game. Not how much money they throw at the tournaments.
I am not sure what you mean Ikuu.
If it is a comparison between what Blizz did with SCII or what it did not?
Because then, Blizzard does not strike me as a company that tries to just throw money at a problem to solve it. They are obviously aiming at creating the game first, and if it is good enough, it will become an e-sport (which has already happened with SCII already), if not, then throwing 1 million at it wont help it anyway.
To put that thing into perspective: GOM spends something like 150-200k monthly for prizes. And that is just one stuff, not to mention all the foreign series too. There is already more money in prizes in one quarter for SCII than that money Valve just prepared. It is still nice though, just not "gamechanger". It wont make Blizzard starting to throw money out just cause they can do it.
And if you mean DOTA under Blizzard vs DOTA2 under Valve, well. Different times, different audience. But Valve did not create DOTA. Blizzard made the framework possible, DOTA developers did DOTA, Valve just got in cause they want their marketshare in this huge market. That is it.
And I still love Valve, and own every game from them except for Portal 2.
If it is a comparison between what Blizz did with SCII or what it did not?
Because then, Blizzard does not strike me as a company that tries to just throw money at a problem to solve it. They are obviously aiming at creating the game first, and if it is good enough, it will become an e-sport (which has already happened with SCII already), if not, then throwing 1 million at it wont help it anyway.
To put that thing into perspective: GOM spends something like 150-200k monthly for prizes. And that is just one stuff, not to mention all the foreign series too. There is already more money in prizes in one quarter for SCII than that money Valve just prepared. It is still nice though, just not "gamechanger". It wont make Blizzard starting to throw money out just cause they can do it.
And if you mean DOTA under Blizzard vs DOTA2 under Valve, well. Different times, different audience. But Valve did not create DOTA. Blizzard made the framework possible, DOTA developers did DOTA, Valve just got in cause they want their marketshare in this huge market. That is it.
And I still love Valve, and own every game from them except for Portal 2.
Blizzard are happy to just stand by and hoped that SC2 became what it has, nothing they've done has been done with the interest of making it an eSport. We're talking about a game that doesn't let you play cross region without purchasing extra copies, and doesn't even support LAN.
mescalineeyes
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BLIZZARD AND VALVE ARE RUINING ESPORTS
Ikuu said:
That's just wrong.
Things they left out is not in the best interest for making it a eSports title. Their patching, GOM business, their upcoming invitationals etc are all very much for making it a eSports.
Though I'm not denying that not having LAN, cross regional play or that when we do play cross region we have huge latency is completely ridiculous.
Edit: We are ruining esports
Ikuu said:
Dude. Seriously, now
They only you know... developed...the game that was able to gain an INSANE following all around the world in such a short time. So much for ruining e-sports. And LAN support? HON, hm?
Ikuu said:
How dare they
Faster patching >>> ONE tournament's result in a young, volatile game's life.
Haunted
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1 million dollars is pretty big. That's 70% of GSL's yearly prize pool budget (1.4 million) for a single tournament.
Question is how sustained the tournament scene will be.
Everyone talked about LoL's big prize pool and stream numbers at Dreamhack, but I haven't heard shit about any major (or minor, but I don't follow the scene enough to know about those anyway) tournaments since then.
Question is how sustained the tournament scene will be.
Everyone talked about LoL's big prize pool and stream numbers at Dreamhack, but I haven't heard shit about any major (or minor, but I don't follow the scene enough to know about those anyway) tournaments since then.
Awesome Animals
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Man, I don't get internet until Thursday at my new place.
What are the main differences between HoN and LoL? Why is LoL the spectator sport? I was going to try LoL, but it doesn't have Mac support. HoN does. Is it worth checking out HoN if I plan on playing DotA 2?
So SotG was good? A huge part of me was hoping iNcontroL ruined what they had going, but I knew it wasn't going to happen. Artosis is still going to be a regular though? I, for the most part, felt the few we had post iNcontroL were as entertaining as the ones before. I like listening to Artosis discuss the game. And, they need at least one Terran on there. I'll be forced to hold off on listening until I get somewhere with Wifi unfortunately.
What are the main differences between HoN and LoL? Why is LoL the spectator sport? I was going to try LoL, but it doesn't have Mac support. HoN does. Is it worth checking out HoN if I plan on playing DotA 2?
So SotG was good? A huge part of me was hoping iNcontroL ruined what they had going, but I knew it wasn't going to happen. Artosis is still going to be a regular though? I, for the most part, felt the few we had post iNcontroL were as entertaining as the ones before. I like listening to Artosis discuss the game. And, they need at least one Terran on there. I'll be forced to hold off on listening until I get somewhere with Wifi unfortunately.
perryfarrell
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Gonna play shitloads of SC2 today.
Awesome Animals
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HolyCheck said:
I'm sorry, where do you live?
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Awesome Animals said:
Im only about an hour in but its good so far, incontrol definitely brings something back that the last 4/5 lacked.
Jp has said in the sotg thread that there wont be any more guests on unless they are there to fill in for a host who is absent, so it should usually be jp, tyler, day9, artosis and incontrol from now on.
AdventureRacing
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I've never understood BM'ing someone when you lose. I just much rather gg and move onto the next game. I'd feel like an idiot insulting someone for the race they play.
AdventureRacing
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hamchan said:
I can understand people thinking a race is imba (even i if i think that just holds you back) but actually insulting the other player just makes you look like a dick.
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