Going after Death Stranding is amusing too. That one has nearly universal acclaim despite being probably the strangest AAA game ever made (so far, because Kojima ain't done making games yet).People trying to slander BG3 and RDR2 in the name of Starfield will never not be funny.
Who are you trying to kid at this stage? The grift is over, let it go.
Have you played it? As you seem quite obsessed about it.What are you getting at? Nobody ever said a Bethesda game was never going to sell on Steam. How it would be reviewed and received based on info we know now through those who bought and played it, is the point of this original thread backfire.
Have you played it? As you seem quite obsessed about it.
What? It has no such thing. Many people hated the gameplay in DS. I did. Walking up a hill trying to balance packages was pretty awful. The inventory management was like making a spreadsheet from scratch to do mundane calculations. It was more like work than play and it sucked for me so bad that I couldn't get past chapter 4. And I was/am a big Metal Gear fan and enjoy the weird stories and cinematics.Going after Death Stranding is amusing too. That one has nearly universal acclaim despite being probably the strangest AAA game ever made (so far, because Kojima ain't done making games yet).
This is the truth. Xbox games have 50 percent slower SSD after all.Looks like more negative Steam reviews just needed time to load in.
Seemed like Mudrunners on foot, not a bad idea per say, I like Mudrunners. But in the end I’d rather drive an offroad vehicle and the movie focus is just not my thing, so I skipped it. Watched the story cut together into a movie on Youtube instead. Classic Kojima strangeness.What? It has no such thing. Many people hated the gameplay in DS. I did. Walking up a hill trying to balance packages was pretty awful. The inventory management was like making a spreadsheet from scratch to do mundane calculations. It was more like work than play and it sucked for me so bad that I couldn't get past chapter 4. And I was/am a big Metal Gear fan and enjoy the weird stories and cinematics.
I'm not certainly forcing anyone to play a game, but there are plenty of vehicles if you're so inclined. Even without constructing the highways (which you should partake in though, the "asynchronous multiplayer" aspect is quite ingenious IMHO) you can get around quite well especially on a trike.But in the end I’d rather drive an offroad vehicle and the movie focus is just not my thing, so I skipped it.
Seemed like Mudrunners on foot, not a bad idea per say, I like Mudrunners. But in the end I’d rather drive an offroad vehicle and the movie focus is just not my thing, so I skipped it. Watched the story cut together into a movie on Youtube instead. Classic Kojima strangeness.
Some day I’ll try it, might be the next step in RPG inventory system, it’s about time that someone reinvent the wheel there. What we have now when we can carry 10 swords and 5 shields and 30 sacks of potatoes in our back pocket makes no sense lol
I haven't read all the back and forth but I don't mind people defending a game they enjoy no matter how many people don'tLadies and gentlemen, the Starfield defender.
So ironic it hurts.
You should stop trolling and start reading what has been said so many times in the Starfield OT if you think you have some sad gotcha going there.Ladies and gentlemen, the Starfield defender.
So ironic it hurts.
Says the guy with a florian mueller avatar. You need to get it over it.Ladies and gentlemen, the Starfield defender.
So ironic it hurts.
Imagine if they didn't have xbox velocity architecture.This is the truth. Xbox games have 50 percent slower SSD after all.
You should stop trolling and start reading what has been said so many times in the Starfield OT if you think you have some sad gotcha going there.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Starfield defender.
So ironic it hurts.
A bit drunk tbh.
You should stop trolling and start reading what has been said so many times in the Starfield OT if you think you have some sad gotcha going there.
I haven't read all the back and forth but I don't mind people defending a game they enjoy no matter how many people don't
Hell I loved ARK Survival Evolved to the tune of over 600 hours played and many people hated it and I defended ARK
Big deal
It ain’t really. The lack of vehicles for traveling has been widely criticized, even by fans of the game. So much so that Bethesda hinted that it would be addressed.
Says the guy with a florian mueller avatar. You need to get it over it.
You should try being familiar with the game you're attempting to criticise before doing so. There comes a point in the game where there's no reason to walk anywhere, and it happens quite early on.
The "trolling" starts when you try and be critical of other games in the context of where Starfield has landed in all of this, but in a way that comes across as insincere/disingenuous. But that's par for the course isn't it?
I'll say this - people should be able to defend the game without needing to try and drag highly acclaimed games from the last ~decade (and incorrectly mind you).
If it's not possible to do so then maybe people should be questioning what exactly they are attempting to defend and why they are doing so.
That's the point. One of those games has land vehicles to aid traversal, the other doesn't.
Which is why people attempting to slander other games in some vain attempt to prop up/defefend Starfield.
Where didFess slander Death Stranding?
Going to ask an honest question for the insightLike I said, if people want to defend Starfield, go ahead (and good luck). Bringing other games into the equation though, especially when not being done in a factual or sincere manner, that's a fools errand.
Starfield really messing with a lot of people, can't stay away from these threads and hating people are actually enjoying it
I mean the same can be said in reverse can’t it? there’s certain users on here that can’t seem to stand that people don’t like Starfield as much as they think they shouldGoing to ask an honest question for the insight
What does it matter in the long run?
Going to ask an honest question for the insight
What does it matter in the long run?
Most likely and I don't get that crowd eitherI mean the same can be said in reverse can’t it? there’s certain users on here that can’t seem to stand that people don’t like Starfield as much as they think they should![]()
Apparently we are supposed to believe Starfield is the most divisive game since Death Stranding. Based on how the two games have been received by the people who have purchased and played the respective games, that wasn't true for the original version:
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And it certainly isn't true for the directors cut:
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Then there's the little fact that there are vehicles in Death Stranding, but hey, let's just wing it and say you'd "rather drive off-road vehicles" and chalk up the games structure as not being "your thing" despite the fact that you've failed to grasp what it even is.
I could do the same for the nonsense that's been said about RDR2 and BG3 in this thread over the last couple of pages, and I don't even like RDR2. People are just lying to themselves at this point.
Like I said, if people want to defend Starfield, go ahead (and good luck). Bringing other games into the equation though, especially when not being done in a factual or sincere manner, that's a fools errand.
Almost all big exclusive games get review-bombed by users on Metacritic. That is no gauge to measure games.The game was well-received on PC, but when Death Stranding released on PS4 it had a metacritic of 82 and scores as low as 40, tons of scores in the 60s/70s as well quite a few in the 90s. That's the definition of "divisive" in my book and that is exactly how I took what he was saying. Not the first time a console game did better/worse when moving to PC.
If Fred had defended the lack of vehicles in Starfield then you would have a point, but he didn't do that. That DS wasn't his "thing" ain't worth getting up in arms about. I played DS for a number of hours and it wasn't my thing either.
Death Stranding
Besieged by death's tide at every turn Sam Bridges must brave a world utterly transformed by the Death Stranding. Carrying the stranded remnants of the future in his hands, Sam embarks on a journey to reunite the shattered world one step at a time. What is the mystery of the Death Stranding...www.metacritic.com
Almost all big exclusive games get review-bombed by users on Metacritic. That is no gauge to measure games.
The game was well-received on PC, but when Death Stranding released on PS4 it had a metacritic of 82 and scores as low as 40, tons of scores in the 60s/70s as well quite a few in the 90s. That's the definition of "divisive" in my book and that is exactly how I took what he was saying. Not the first time a console game did better/worse when moving to PC.
If Fred had defended the lack of vehicles in Starfield then you would have a point, but he didn't do that. That DS wasn't his "thing" ain't worth getting up in arms about. I played DS for a number of hours and it wasn't my thing either.
Death Stranding
Besieged by death's tide at every turn Sam Bridges must brave a world utterly transformed by the Death Stranding. Carrying the stranded remnants of the future in his hands, Sam embarks on a journey to reunite the shattered world one step at a time. What is the mystery of the Death Stranding...www.metacritic.com
Retarded 12 yo and oh so ironic retort.Have you played it? As you seem quite obsessed about it.
I've played it for 90 hours and since DeepEnigma and I have a shared consciousness that means yes, he has
? Well...I bought the game day 1, nothing from what I'm playing is that different then what was shown in the trailer and gameplay walkthrough. It's obvious that the game you bought and the game Bethesda manipulated you into visualising what it would be are two different games
They did everything they could in many very unethical ways to maximum sale
This is a topic about the Steam review score is it not? You're now trying to make excuses for him when the review scores on Steam have always been the context for the vast majority of discussion in this thread. He was even responding to someone else discussing the status of the game on Steam when stating what he did.
You might see it as people "getting up in arms" about these recent mentions of BG3, RDR2 and DS, but the reality is it's just laughable.
I’ve seen a bike, are there more vehicles? I think I have it installed through some subscription service, the movie focus is pushing me away though but I’ll see if I get the time to try it, still have 2 weeks off from work.You should try being familiar with the game you're attempting to criticise before doing so. There comes a point in the game where there's no reason to walk anywhere, and it happens quite early on.
The "trolling" starts when you try and be critical of other games in the context of where Starfield has landed in all of this, but in a way that comes across as insincere/disingenuous. But that's par for the course isn't it?
I mean, he was trying to throw condescending shade at BG3 which I called out. BG3 is far from divisive, well they were only divisive to one group due to a boat anchor potato console giving their design fits, which MS quickly changed that parity narrative.Nah....he was making a general comparison to other "divisive" games, not just on Steam.
"It’s a divisive game. Possibly the most divisive since Death Stranding. Cyberpunk was similar but that was broken on console which added to the negativity, on PC is was great, my GOTY."
That's controversial? Really?
Okay. But individual left-field critic scores are almost always the case. Even games like Zelda Tears of the Kingdom have 6s out of 10s.I'm talking about critic reviews
I mean, he was trying to throw condescending shade at BG3 which I called out. BG3 is far from divisive, well they were only divisive to one group due to a boat anchor potato console giving their design fits, which MS quickly changed that parity narrative.
Ok.....I'll stay out of that rabbit hole. I just jumped in because I knew during the OT discussions just about everyone talked about how the game badly needed vehicles.
I was only speaking on that one instance. Don't have an issue with people defending something they like otherwise. I want a space horse! Or a Falkor! Mods, GET TO IT!Ok.....I'll stay out of that rabbit hole. I just jumped in because I knew during the OT discussions just about everyone talked about how the game badly needed vehicles.
It’s just talk about lip sync. There was talk about animations in Starfield being behind the industry standard and I said they had improved a ton and said the auto lip sync in Starfield was impressive and made even BG3 look bad.I mean, he was trying to throw condescending shade at BG3 which I called out. BG3 is far from divisive, well they were only divisive to one group due to a boat anchor potato console giving their design fits, which MS quickly changed that parity narrative.
Nah....he was making a general comparison to other "divisive" games, not just on Steam.
"It’s a divisive game. Possibly the most divisive since Death Stranding. Cyberpunk was similar but that was broken on console which added to the negativity, on PC is was great, my GOTY."
That's controversial? Really?
It’s just talk about lip sync. There was talk about animations in Starfield being behind the industry standard and I said they had improved a ton and said the auto lip sync in Starfield was impressive and made even BG3 look bad.
Was I wrong there? Here are quick and dirty mobile videos from Steam Deck. Random store owner versus Wyll. The acting is obviously better in BG3, body movements are included, but I see lots of missing mouth movements.
(beware of spoilers)
I’ve seen a bike, are there more vehicles? I think I have it installed through some subscription service, the movie focus is pushing me away though but I’ll see if I get the time to try it, still have 2 weeks off from work.