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twilo99
Gold Member
Impossible to do in space, but what they should've done is take another few years and develop Skyrim level of immersion on one of the Planets... kinda of like having Skyrim as a game within the game.
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Madflavor
Member
Guy just genuinely thought it was a 7/10. What's funny is I don't know why IGN's review got literally all the attention, while Gamespot (who gave it the same rating) didn't.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
1 more to make it an even 10 threads on the first page.
ManaByte
Member
You can post a review of a game on Game Pass without owning it.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Whether that came into consideration for them as an outlet when scoring, they definitely know the score would give them clicks ... hence leading with the score itself on numerous Twitter posts
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Oh dear.
Eotheod
Member
On my 6800XT and 3800XT CPU it's running smooth as butter. Obviously that doesn't remove any potential issues for others, but that first review has the person using a 3060 so it should definitely be going okay on that.
Though there is definitely a discussion to be had on how games are performing now with older cards that are significantly limited by 6 or 8GB cards. I feel there will be further issues with those types of cards as games get heavier in demand. NVIDIA really fucked up their 3000 series VRAM amounts.
Edit: I do find it funny the contrast between Starfield console performance and Baldur's Gate 3 performance. Just a nice chuckle from me on how the interpretation and handling is different.
Though there is definitely a discussion to be had on how games are performing now with older cards that are significantly limited by 6 or 8GB cards. I feel there will be further issues with those types of cards as games get heavier in demand. NVIDIA really fucked up their 3000 series VRAM amounts.
Edit: I do find it funny the contrast between Starfield console performance and Baldur's Gate 3 performance. Just a nice chuckle from me on how the interpretation and handling is different.
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I just read that Starfield will give you erectile dysfunction. And bad breath.
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Well...this certainly wasn't on the bingo card.
Sheesh.
The purpose of putting games on Game Pass is to have access to that game. I just tried with a game not on Game Pass and I couldnt add a review. I just finished updating Starfield, haven't even launched it yet and I can add a review.....because I have Game Pass.
Sheesh.
But....you have to have Game Pass or at least be in the Xbox ecosystem, right?
The purpose of putting games on Game Pass is to have access to that game. I just tried with a game not on Game Pass and I couldnt add a review. I just finished updating Starfield, haven't even launched it yet and I can add a review.....because I have Game Pass.
Bonfires Down
Member
User reviews should automatically show what hatdware was used to play.
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EXACTLY. I’ve been saying this.
graywolf323
Member
same thing is happening here including some people hilariously trying to gaslight saying that Starfield wasn’t massively hyped
I got to New Atlantis, so far I can’t say I’m enjoying it even as much as Fallout 4, doesn’t help that it looks absolutely awful on the Steam Deck
I mean seriously I’ve seen better looking 360 games… don’t get me wrong I wasn’t expecting the Deck to be able to run it on high settings or anything, I just didn’t think low would look so awful while still getting such low frame rates 
now that I’ve gotten the space suit from the glitched display case I’ll probably shelve the game until patches/mods get it performing better
Steam Community :: Screenshot :: sadly it is not pretty on the Steam Deck
Steam Community: Starfield. sadly it is not pretty on the Steam Deck
Connxtion
Member
Edit: this was originally in the PC gamepass review thread that has now been merged with this one.
A suspect the issue is the fact you can’t change the resolution of the game unless you run it windowed.
Mine defaulted to 4K so with my minisforum UM690 I was getting teens for FPS. Changing it to 1080p windowed I got a perfectly fine FPS & was playable.
GPU is a 680M and I only gave it 3GB of useable memory set to 4200 as 4800 seems to randomly reboot my computer
(found out later setting it to 4600 works fine also)
So how folks with far better GPUs and probably CPUs than my 6900HX (mobile cpu) are getting horrible performance I can only make a guess it’s due to the forced resolution in full screen.
Or it’s troll reviews
Am running the gamepass version as it’s free to me on PC.
A suspect the issue is the fact you can’t change the resolution of the game unless you run it windowed.
Mine defaulted to 4K so with my minisforum UM690 I was getting teens for FPS. Changing it to 1080p windowed I got a perfectly fine FPS & was playable.
GPU is a 680M and I only gave it 3GB of useable memory set to 4200 as 4800 seems to randomly reboot my computer
(found out later setting it to 4600 works fine also)So how folks with far better GPUs and probably CPUs than my 6900HX (mobile cpu) are getting horrible performance I can only make a guess it’s due to the forced resolution in full screen.
Or it’s troll reviews
Am running the gamepass version as it’s free to me on PC.
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Steam Community :: Screenshot :: sadly it is not pretty on the Steam Deck
Steam Community: Starfield. sadly it is not pretty on the Steam Decksteamcommunity.com
What you mean, that looks fire?
Madflavor
Member
same thing is happening here including some people hilariously trying to gaslight saying that Starfield wasn’t massively hyped
I got to New Atlantis, so far I can’t say I’m enjoying it even as much as Fallout 4, doesn’t help that it looks absolutely awful on the Steam Deck
Steam Community :: Screenshot :: sadly it is not pretty on the Steam Deck
Steam Community: Starfield. sadly it is not pretty on the Steam Deck
Bethesda needs to do better. They seriously cannot just do the same same thing with the exact same dated systems with Elder Scrolls VI. It's been 12 years since Skyrim, they need to evolve the formula.
What I find surprising is that even coming into this with lowered expectations, the game manages to fail to meet that.
While there are some good aspects, it is basically a fresh paint on an ancient engine complete with the severe limitations and problems as a result.
It’s currently straddling the mediocre to good barrier that would justify a purchase and is in dire need of mods. I’ll need to spend more time to firm up my conclusions but it’s not looking good so far.
While there are some good aspects, it is basically a fresh paint on an ancient engine complete with the severe limitations and problems as a result.
It’s currently straddling the mediocre to good barrier that would justify a purchase and is in dire need of mods. I’ll need to spend more time to firm up my conclusions but it’s not looking good so far.
twilo99
Gold Member
I've got a 6800xt and a 5800x3d and smooth as butter is not what I got lol
VRR saves the day of course
TransTrender
Gold Member
Is the bad performance stuff isolated to the XBox App, or is it no different than Steam?
twilo99
Gold Member
I still don't understand why we don't have a rating system on gamepass
Topher
Gold Member
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Got to get those clicks!............. except when Jeff Gertsman gave Kane & Lynch a 6/10 and UBI got mad and GS fired Gertsmann. In that case, please dont click our review link!Whether that came into consideration for them as an outlet when scoring, they definitely know the score would give them clicks ... hence leading with the score itself on numerous Twitter posts
ByWatterson
Member
Hoddi
Member
It's not just the resolution. I've tried running the game at 640x360 (720p with FSR at 50%) and it's still GPU bound on my 2080 Ti running at circa 60fps. I've also tried downclocking the card and performance scales almost linearly even at this ultra low resolution. It meanwhile runs at ~40fps at my display's native 3440x1440 resolution.Edit: this was originally in the PC gamepass review thread that has now been merged with this one.
A suspect the issue is the fact you can’t change the resolution of the game unless you run it windowed.
Mine defaulted to 4K so with my minisforum UM690 I was getting teens for FPS. Changing it to 1080p windowed I got a perfectly fine FPS & was playable.
GPU is a 680M and I only gave it 3GB of useable memory set to 4200 as 4800 seems to randomly reboot my computer
So how folks with far better GPUs and probably CPUs than my 6900HX (mobile cpu) are getting horrible performance I can only make a guess it’s due to the forced resolution in full screen.
Or it’s troll reviews
Am running the gamepass version as it’s free to me on PC.
I've seen this behavior in a small handful of games over the past few years but they've all been fixed through patches and driver updates. So, I'm moderately hopeful that it will be fixed. Or at least perform better.
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sendit
Member
No ultra wide support in menu, photomode (there is a mod that fixes this), and cut scenes. Ultrawide is fully supported in the actual gameplay.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Skyrim is my favourite game of all time (said that a million times on here). I've only managed to stomach the first hour (!) of this game last night. Bored me to tears. I want to force myself to endure a couple more hours. But I'm just not feeling it.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Really? I thought some folks at some convention had ultrawides playing it, it doesn't natively support it? smh
For how...2023 everyone lol
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Let's see, but I don't think it's hitting BG3 numbers. 1M would be too high for this game. I could be wrong though. It'd be a resounding success on Steam if it does hit it.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
I've been playing since last night and while I like the game for what it is, it's definitely not Bethesda's best work or even close to it.
I'm trying to look past the negatives like loading screens and the horrible menus and too much fast travel. I like the art style and setting of the game and so far the mainline story quests have been great with interesting characters and dialogue along the way. If I was to rate the game personally I'd give it a 7.5/10. It's an awesome game when everything clicks but it has too many things stopping it from being one of the GOATs like Skyrim was. The constant loading is very annoying and I can't help but feel restricted with the space traveling. Maybe it's my thousands of hours in Star Citizen, NMS, and Elite but every time I see my ship I want to get in and fly it everywhere unrestricted and I can't do that in this game. Inventory management is also super annoying in this game and the lack of vehicles is baffling to say the least. it's a good game when you look past its flaws but it's no masterpiece. Bethesda definitely need to update their game design and throw away the Creation Engine because IMO it's restricting them too much. This game shouldn't have been made with the Creation Engine, it's too dated for a game with this level of ambition of exploring an entire galaxy.
I'm trying to look past the negatives like loading screens and the horrible menus and too much fast travel. I like the art style and setting of the game and so far the mainline story quests have been great with interesting characters and dialogue along the way. If I was to rate the game personally I'd give it a 7.5/10. It's an awesome game when everything clicks but it has too many things stopping it from being one of the GOATs like Skyrim was. The constant loading is very annoying and I can't help but feel restricted with the space traveling. Maybe it's my thousands of hours in Star Citizen, NMS, and Elite but every time I see my ship I want to get in and fly it everywhere unrestricted and I can't do that in this game. Inventory management is also super annoying in this game and the lack of vehicles is baffling to say the least. it's a good game when you look past its flaws but it's no masterpiece. Bethesda definitely need to update their game design and throw away the Creation Engine because IMO it's restricting them too much. This game shouldn't have been made with the Creation Engine, it's too dated for a game with this level of ambition of exploring an entire galaxy.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
While Starfield has been released with positive reviews on Steam, the same can't be said for the Game Pass/Xbox App version.
Weighting 140.8 GB instead of 116 GB and with low peformance, the game is currently 2.5/5.0 on overall user scores, and going lower, the vast majority of complains due to it's very poor peformance.
Damn, I've been playing it from the Xbox app with the DLSS 3 mod. Runs perfectly on my rig but then again I have a 4090 lol.I didn't know that many people were upset with the XboxApp/GamePass version lol
I'm using the Xbox App because I got a nice $1 trial with my graphics card when I built my PC. I'll eventually get the Steam version after a price drop and mods arrive in full force
Bumblebeetuna
Member
To each his own, the video comes off as very ignorant to me. But that’s to be expected when he admits he’s only played the game for eleven hours or whatever. But his complaints seem pretty meh. Bethesda games are usually full of quests where you find out things about people and have a chance to either expose them or exchange that info for something beneficial to you or even kill those people. Starfield is no different.
The exploration complaints are the dumbest imho. He clearly bought into massive hype from somewhere other than BGS if he thought you could explore anywhere any time. And if he thinks the planets are all dull lifeless bores then why does he care if exploring those planets is broken down into sectors?
It’s a common complaint I see with the game and I’m not sure why. “most of the planets are empty!” I mean yeah, it’s space. You can scan planets before landing and tell what kind of terrain there is. And when you have such a massive game with massive amounts of content, it’s also very YMMV. He complains that the planets have “at most one species” on them or whatever but in my experience the planets with life have had 6-8+ different life forms to scan. And not the tiny things he’s describing. I just did one with like five elements, six plants to discover, and seven life forms. Plus a few secret traits to uncover.
If he’s not into flying around, scanning planets, and landing somewhere and scanning for interesting stuff, that’s fine, but then why play Starfield? It’s like complaining that GT or Forza has too many “boring” cars compared to 800 horse power sports cars.
The game is far from perfect. I don’t remember if he complained about the UI, but I think it’s pretty horrific. I’ve also complained about the lackluster melee combat and weapon offerings in the OT, too.
Isn’t that guy a big YouTuber? I am positive I have seen one of my kids watching him eat a bunch of fast food.
drotahorror
Member
Eh, like pretty much every Bethesda game (ES/FO), I can't play for more than an hour or so. Gunplay is shit, fairly boring gameplay in general (searching and looking at every item). Looked to see if you get any powers and most of those even looked boring. The effects are so bad on those and lots of powers just overlap or cancel another out because one could just be way more useful.
On a better note, game ran 60+ fps for me (6700k/3060ti). Mostly maxed graphics except Shadows on High, GTAO on Medium, and Volumetric Lighting on Medium? or Low I can't remember. Also using DLSS from nexus @ 1080p. Even with Motion blur on though, 60 feels weird, maybe if I locked it to 60, just feels weird when turning, an odd hitch. No freezing, or CTD's or anything like that though.
But yeah I've never enjoyed any Elder Scrolls or FPS Fallout game, so I wasn't surprised I couldn't get into Starfield. I can see the appeal and glad I got to atleast try it on Gamepass. I probably would have bought it on deep sale and been disappointed about wasting money. Now I don't have to worry about that.
On a better note, game ran 60+ fps for me (6700k/3060ti). Mostly maxed graphics except Shadows on High, GTAO on Medium, and Volumetric Lighting on Medium? or Low I can't remember. Also using DLSS from nexus @ 1080p. Even with Motion blur on though, 60 feels weird, maybe if I locked it to 60, just feels weird when turning, an odd hitch. No freezing, or CTD's or anything like that though.
But yeah I've never enjoyed any Elder Scrolls or FPS Fallout game, so I wasn't surprised I couldn't get into Starfield. I can see the appeal and glad I got to atleast try it on Gamepass. I probably would have bought it on deep sale and been disappointed about wasting money. Now I don't have to worry about that.
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DJ12
Member
I get back bars, and it's not like the Internet doesn't confirm this is the case.
Nice try though
I'm guessing you have gpu scaling turned on or something.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
While Starfield has been released with positive reviews on Steam, the same can't be said for the Game Pass/Xbox App version.
Weighting 140.8 GB instead of 116 GB and with low peformance, the game is currently 2.5/5.0 on overall user scores, and going lower, the vast majority of complains due to it's very poor peformance.
This is odd.
Gudji
Member
They can, they will and it will continue to score 9s and 10s from fanboys. That game will be even more hyped than starfield.
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