Madflavor
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Interesting. I didn't see Jimquisition's review on FFXVI added to MC.
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Interesting. I didn't see Jimquisition's review on FFXVI added to MC.
Flutta
Banned
So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.
But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.
But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.
Starfield review in progress – Bethesda’s sci-fi scrolls
GameCentral offers an extended look at the new sci-fi epic from the makers of Skyrim and Fallout, but does Starfield live up to the hype?metro.co.uk
And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.
And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.
So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?
Lmao!!
One thing is for sure. Xbox shills hate your guts
Honey Bunny
Member
He really didn't hold back, did he. Mad lad!
Gideon
Member
Based, I can't personally give this game below a 5 since it's functioning but man what a bland and uninspired game.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I just spread the truth and lightLmao!!
One thing is for sure. Xbox shills hate your guts
Don't shoot the messenger
GHG
Member
It's there.
Flutta
Banned
it's nothing new, they have an army out there promoting their shit, some do it for free others do it for some free stuff and those running those sites i believe get paid for it.
Deception at it's finest.
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GHG
Member
Not at all:
The closing statement in the review is fucking brutal:
If you're the kind of person who thinks videogames peaked with Fallout 3's launch version and they've required neither evolution nor improvement since, this game is absolutely for you. If you believe Bethesda doesn't need to exhibit growth as an artistic outlet and hasn't had to change a thing about the way it's made games since 2008, I can safely say you'll adore Starfield because it's all that a Bethesda game has always been... and literally nothing more.
Madflavor
Member
"For sure. Historically, *I've* been really forgiving of Bethesda's little routine, but at this point they're peddling snake oil. There simply isn't an excuse for a game like Starfield when more ambitious games from less wealthy companies look better and run better."
Yeah I'm in complete agreement with this. My thoughts exactly. Bethesda Games were a meme back in 2006 - 2011. Everyone knew the engine was jank, and the way some systems and NPCs behaved were a joke. But by 2006 - 2011 standards, those games did enough right to elevate them to greatness. But this isn't 2011 anymore. The formula was showing it's age even in 2015 with Fallout 4. It's 2023 now. The "Lol typical Bethesda game" isn't funny anymore. Their design approach and engine is incredibly dated and holding them back. They just want to keep doing what worked for them in the past with very little drive to evolve the formula. Todd has become complacent. This is why other game studios who make RPGs have surpassed them. It makes me worried for TES VI.
I'm glad some people are enjoying the game, but I think even those who are loving Starfield should call BGS out. If TES VI is just Skyrim with better graphics, I can't imagine it'll be received as well.
Yeah I'm in complete agreement with this. My thoughts exactly. Bethesda Games were a meme back in 2006 - 2011. Everyone knew the engine was jank, and the way some systems and NPCs behaved were a joke. But by 2006 - 2011 standards, those games did enough right to elevate them to greatness. But this isn't 2011 anymore. The formula was showing it's age even in 2015 with Fallout 4. It's 2023 now. The "Lol typical Bethesda game" isn't funny anymore. Their design approach and engine is incredibly dated and holding them back. They just want to keep doing what worked for them in the past with very little drive to evolve the formula. Todd has become complacent. This is why other game studios who make RPGs have surpassed them. It makes me worried for TES VI.
I'm glad some people are enjoying the game, but I think even those who are loving Starfield should call BGS out. If TES VI is just Skyrim with better graphics, I can't imagine it'll be received as well.
GHG
Member
People can claim they are happy with it all they like but the reality is that the game won't have a lasting impact on the industry. And for all the money that's gone into it, it really ought to. The vision for this game is outstanding on paper but the execution is lacking.
The primary issue with all this is the fact that the industry continues to move on and forward, especially so with some of the releases we've had this year.
So the question becomes, how is it that a team which has been afforded exorbitant amounts of time, resources and budget is only able to muster up something that has all the hallmarks and limitations of early 2010's game design? It's almost as if all the hardware and software advancements we've had since then have counted for nothing as far as they are concerned.
If only they put the same amount of passion and energy that they've shown in marketing the game, attempting to control the reviews and attempting to control the narrative on online social spaces into the game itself.
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Hugare
Member
Great post
Thats why I roll my eyes at people giving it a perfect score or saying its the best game ever.
I want Bethesda to improve, I want TES VI to be great/amazing. So despite enjoying my time with the game (just barely enough, so far), I want them being called out for their mistakes.
The game is exactly what one would expect from Bethesda, and that's bad, imo. We should expect more from such a huge developer.
Such an influential developer not improving their formula even slightly in 20 years is just madness. We are seeing their games reception decreasing in quality/reception more and more, and they do nothing about it.
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GHG
Member
I take it all back. Starfield's a 10/10.
Please tell me that's a mod...
Ulysses 31
Member
GHG
Member
So you can DL and install it?
I'll fill a room with hundreds of them and then tweet my masterpiece of a creation to Xbox.
Superayate
Member
I just spread the truth and light
Don't shoot the messenger
So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.
But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.
But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.
Starfield review in progress – Bethesda’s sci-fi scrolls
GameCentral offers an extended look at the new sci-fi epic from the makers of Skyrim and Fallout, but does Starfield live up to the hype?
And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.
And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.
So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?
The Metro put in the picture seems to not be the one you think but the belgium "metro" time
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Wildebeest
Member
Really, there is a three-hour advanced university lecture on how to enjoy Starfield before ten hours into the game? You could learn something about the real universe with that level of effort.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The Metro put in the picture seems to not be the one you think but the belgium "metro" time
SRTtoZ
Member
Some YouTubers want to keep their Bethesda early access lol.
Gudji
Member
Man the intro for this game is incredibly uninspired.
Resetera GOTY confirmed.
I take it all back. Starfield's a 10/10.
SRTtoZ
Member
Is it me or are all their reviews an 8? I feel that's what Easy Allies has turned into. Just everyone agreeing with each other and agreeing that all games are 'good'. I miss the days of Giant Bomb when people would actually argue over a game and not change positions easily in giving it a GOTY award or whatever. Easy Allies has some good personalities, but they are just so agreeable. It's boring.
That's aside from them losing their best creators.
Hugare
Member
The Metro put in the picture seems to not be the one you think but the belgium "metro" time
Can't believe they did this
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Can't believe they did this
Nothing1234
Banned
That 4/10 has dropped Starfield to 85 on Metacritic for the Series X version.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Mods is the answer. You cant use things like script extender and any more complex mods that will depend on that.
Plus performance is usually better with Steam versions vs MS Store ones (no idea if that's true with Starfield). But anyways, it's mostly modding.
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Alebrije
Member
Its important to separate the term "Bethesda's game" from games after Fallout New Vegas. FONV was the last truly RPG from Bethesda (Obsidian) after that all their games including Starfield are more shooters with rpg elements. So when people say Starfield is Fallout on scpace , yes it is but more exactly Fallout 4.
I also Agree the formula is dated, I blame the engine and the lack of good writers on the company..some of the dialogs are like the ones on FF16 ( bland, stupid, boring). And honestly is good other developers can deliver better RPG experiences like CDPR , Fromsoftware ,Capcom.
If you are new on Bethesdas games you will find Starfield interesting but if you have been playing their games since before they came to consoles you will find Srarfield fun since you like the formula but also will know there is a lite RPG compared to older ones , and than is just the same game with a skin of space shooter instead of fantasy or pos apocaliptic world.
Interfectum
Gold Member
Goddamn that 4/10 was harsh as shit.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
I feel disgusted with myself for even enjoying an 85 metacritic game
It's a stain i'll never be able to wipe clean
It's a stain i'll never be able to wipe clean
Elysium44
Banned
Honest reviews that don't pull punches and gloss over shortcomings are a beautiful thing to see.
Topher
Identifies as young
That 4/10 has dropped Starfield to 85 on Metacritic for the Series X version.
4/10 is such an absurd score for this game.
What makes this review "honest"?
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Bernoulli
M2 slut
That 4/10 has dropped Starfield to 85 on Metacritic for the Series X version.
Flutta
Banned
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That "error" is starting to make more and more sense, logistically.
JTCx
Member
It's about time people are starting to wake up and see how BGS is one of the most overrated devs out there.
PropellerEar
Member
That 4/10 has dropped Starfield to 85 on Metacritic for the Series X version.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
He was actually "talked to" about bending some of the truths and to reign it in a little
Topher
Identifies as young
A bit late for that, but ok. lol
Flutta
Banned
Those Sony fanboys have no shame.That 4/10 has dropped Starfield to 85 on Metacritic for the Series X version.
LEAVE STARFIELD AND TODD ALONE!!
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
What are they/them doing? Even Outer Worlds doesn't deserve a 4/10 score, come on. I've played 4 hours and it's an okay game(albeit a bit boring); not a goat, not a goty, but definitely not a bad game.
GymWolf
Gold Member
It runs like shit on steam aswell, don't worry.While Starfield has been released with positive reviews on Steam, the same can't be said for the Game Pass/Xbox App version.
Weighting 140.8 GB instead of 116 GB and with low peformance, the game is currently 2.5/5.0 on overall user scores, and going lower, the vast majority of complains due to it's very poor peformance.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Lokaum D+
Member
from what i have heard, The Outer Worlds is the better game
at least thats what users think.
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