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STEAM- Announcements & Updates 2011 Edition |OT2|

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Should I just get Hitman Blood Money for £2 or buy all 3 for £5? I have Blood Money on 360 and didn't get past the 3rd or 4th mission.
 

wilflare

Member
Stupacabra said:
How much are Kane & Lynch 1 and 2 in the US?

10.20USD
5.10 each

there's a whole bundle though Hitman + Kane

EDIT: beaten
well, if anyone need help w regional pricing. i'll be online for some time: wilflare
 
Cheers, Stallion Free.

I am pathetic at Blood Money. I absolutely cannot get on with it at all. I wish I wasn't such an awful impatient tit.

Edit: Mega-thanks to Wilflare for helping me get K&L2 :)
 

Blizzard

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Interfectum said:
If you don't have Blood Money, slap yourself on the face and get it right now.
When I get home, I expect my position to be "Psh, I don't care about Hitman games and I don't want to buy them." I expect to then check my Steam list out of curiosity, and find I already own at least 2 of them.
 

Interfectum

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Blizzard said:
When I get home, I expect my position to be "Psh, I don't care about Hitman games and I don't want to buy them." I expect to then check my Steam list out of curiosity, and find I already own at least 2 of them.

In the end, Gabe always wins.
 

wilflare

Member
Stupacabra said:
Cheers, Stallion Free.

I am pathetic at Blood Money. I absolutely cannot get on with it at all. I wish I wasn't such an awful impatient tit.

Edit: Mega-thanks to Wilflare for helping me get K&L2 :)

np! have fun!
i'll be on for another 30-45mins if anyone still needs help
 
Nice midweek deal. Too bad (or good?) I already own the Hitman Collection thanks to a friend of mine. Started playing the first Hitman but I got stuck. Will eventually get back to it and work my way through the other 2.
 

Salsa

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already own K&L 2


Stallion Free said:
Licensing issues with 1 song I believe. Squeidos is too lazy to patch it out or work out the licensing.

oh ffs

at least they have that pandora tomorrow graphic bug or whatever as an excuse, but this? c'mon son
 

Sober

Member
shintoki said:
Blood Money is universally considered the best by far. Similar to Chaos Theory in Splinter Cell.
Yeah they are pretty much cut from the same cloth in that regards where devs decided to finally make the game accessible to all without ruining it. Jury's still out on Absolution though but I think both these franchises peaked at around the same time.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Stallion Free said:
Hmm Cloning Clyde looks incredibly rough graphically, but it has 25 Steam achievements.

CONUNDRUM!

It's pretty fun and although the visuals are simple, they have a kinda cartoony fun. If you've played Ancients of Ooga, CC is like an earlier, smaller, simpler, but better Ancients of Ooga. I recommend it. Not sure about the Steam achievements, but I have 200/200 on XBLA.
 
I've never played much of any of the Hitman games because I'm not a big fan of stealth. Is it required to play or could I Rambo my way through if I wanted?
 
Speaking of achievements, does Valve has expressed any plans to give them more meaning or purpose? Like someone pointed out already in Live at least they up your game score.
 

plc268

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LastWindow said:
I've never played much of any of the Hitman games because I'm not a big fan of stealth. Is it required to play or could I Rambo my way through if I wanted?

Well, it's not stealth really. It's about disguising yourself to get into certain places and accomplishing your objective. There's a little stealth involved, but it's not really the focus.

While it's possible to go in guns blazing, I really wouldn't recommend it because you'll get swarmed with enemies pretty quickly.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Refreshment.01 said:
Speaking of achievements, does Valve has expressed any plans to give them more meaning or purpose? Like someone pointed out already in Live at least they up your game score.
God I hope they never implement a SteamScore or anything. I like them the way they are.

Also yes, the Hitman games aren't like Metal Gear Solid or Splinter Cell at all. Its all about hiding in plain sight.
 

Exuro

Member
Refreshment.01 said:
Speaking of achievements, does Valve has expressed any plans to give them more meaning or purpose? Like someone pointed out already in Live at least they up your game score.
All it really needs is easier access. A spot on your profile with your latest achievements or most proud of ones would do wonders imo. As it is achievements are kind of a "tucked away in the corner" thing.
 

Stallion Free

Cock Encumbered
Stumpokapow said:
It's pretty fun and although the visuals are simple, they have a kinda cartoony fun. If you've played Ancients of Ooga, CC is like an earlier, smaller, simpler, but better Ancients of Ooga. I recommend it. Not sure about the Steam achievements, but I have 200/200 on XBLA.
You just sold me. The visuals turned me off, but positive words for a game at that price can do a lot.
 
plc268 said:
Well, it's not stealth really. It's about disguising yourself to get into certain places and accomplishing your objective. There's a little stealth involved, but it's not really the focus.

While it's possible to go in guns blazing, I really wouldn't recommend it because you'll get swarmed with enemies pretty quickly.

Thanks. I guess I'll pick at least one up. Hard to say no at those prices.
 
Daaang. I purchased the Hitman collection for PS2 back in May and barely put any time into it because I got it at the same time as Yakuza. Now I don't know if I should get for PC or not.
 

Blizzard

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The_Technomancer said:
God I hope they never implement a SteamScore or anything. I like them the way they are.

Also yes, the Hitman games aren't like Metal Gear Solid or Splinter Cell at all. Its all about hiding in plain sight.
Doesn't your Steam profile already have some kind of rating about how awesome or 9/10 you are based on how many hours you've played in the last week?
 
The_Technomancer said:
God I hope they never implement a SteamScore or anything. I like them the way they are.
Why react with aversion? I mean, for some people the gamer score its like a meta game of its own. More over in a sense achievements the way Steam does them now seem like a half assed step of what Live does. I mean following your train of thought, why have achievements at all in the first place?
Exuro said:
All it really needs is easier access. A spot on your profile with your latest achievements or most proud of ones would do wonders imo. As it is achievements are kind of a "tucked away in the corner" thing.
True. But i thing that at least they have percentage tracking for them. So you can see which are the ones that are rare to get.
Blizzard said:
Doesn't your Steam profile already have some kind of rating about how awesome or 9/10 you are based on how many hours you've played in the last week?
Or this... Holy shit i forgot about that, well played man. This is even more stupid and meaningless than the live gamer score.
 

MNC

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Blizzard said:
Doesn't your Steam profile already have some kind of rating about how awesome or 9/10 you are based on how many hours you've played in the last week?
EAGLES SCREAM!!!!!!! They removed the names but you still get a rating. Still, I'd prefer rating on achievement than playtime.
 

Exuro

Member
Refreshment.01 said:
Why react with aversion? I mean, for some people the gamer score its like a meta game of its own. More over in a sense achievements the way Steam does them now seem like a half assed step of what Live does. I mean following your train of thought, why have achievements at all in the first place?
I'm not sure they could implement scores well enough, at least compared to Live. There's no standard for number of achievements a game can have so it would be hard to compared people scores together when one person could have been playing an mmo that has 800 achievements while someone else played ten games than had 80 achievements each. The system would have to be completely overhauled imo which doesn't sound like the best or easiest idea. Just stick with what they have now, but have easier access and add more supporting features around the profile and such. They would also need to stop people from being able to use SAM to unlock achievements if they were to put more importance on them.
 
Refreshment.01 said:
Speaking of achievements, does Valve has expressed any plans to give them more meaning or purpose? Like someone pointed out already in Live at least they up your game score.

I'd rather something besides a number. I have no idea what my Live score is and I play on the 360 at the very least, weekly. The trophies did it slightly better but I still have no need. Now, if they really want people to buy games with achievements, tie it into TF2 hats or something. Every 10 achievements gets you a hat? Oh boy.
 

Flunkie

Banned
Blizzard said:
Doesn't your Steam profile already have some kind of rating about how awesome or 9/10 you are based on how many hours you've played in the last week?
Pretty sure that has nothing to do with achievements though.
 
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Deleted member 10571

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wilflare said:
should i rebuy blood money lol
Just thinking the same. Got it on 360, never went too far into it. Damn you , Steam.
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
The only thing I like about Steam Achievements is looking to see how rare some of them are. For example I like seeing when only 0.8% of players have gotten one. I wish PSN had something similar.
 
I think if achievements had an arbitrary number applied to them, we wouldn't be able to have events such as the summer camp sale, when dozens of games got new achievements.

Or something like TF2 which has 379 achievements right now and only had 17 to start
 

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Besides, arbitrary points kind of goes against the very nature of PC gaming. The only reason it works for Microsoft on the Xbox is because they have a closed system where they can tightly reign in the use of their system.

If a points system existed for Steam achievements, a developer should be able to distribute the points however they want over however many achievements they want. If you give developers, especially smaller developers, that kind of freedom, then the system becomes meaningless. I'd be the first to try to make a game that gives you a million "whatevs" for pressing enter on the title screen.
 

Derrick01

Banned
They should do something to fix the achievements if not add a score system. I can't manage to make myself even look at most game's achievements on PC because of how boring the system is. I have almost all of Deus Ex's achievements because they're either tied into quests or play styles that I was already going to do like never getting an alarm.
 

Cyrillus

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Derrick01 said:
They should do something to fix the achievements if not add a score system. I can't manage to make myself even look at most game's achievements on PC because of how boring the system is. I have almost all of Deus Ex's achievements because they're either tied into quests or play styles that I was already going to do like never getting an alarm.
Also, having it not built into the overlay is annoying as well. Having to open a browser tab to look at achievements just feels clunky, and takes awhile to load. I wish it was built into the steam platform.
 
VGChampion said:
I'd rather something besides a number. I have no idea what my Live score is and I play on the 360 at the very least, weekly. The trophies did it slightly better but I still have no need. Now, if they really want people to buy games with achievements, tie it into TF2 hats or something. Every 10 achievements gets you a hat? Oh boy.

Steam could easily visible show percentage completes on each game and an "Overall Percentage Complete" achievement tally/score. I think that would be a cool way to handle it. And it would require no uniformity and almost no extra work beyond what they currently track.

If they wanted to make it more "score like" then each game's percentage complete just becomes a number that is a running tally. So 35% of TF2 achievements = 35 "points." 100% of Witcher 2's achievements = 100 points etc.
 

Exuro

Member
Cyrillus said:
Also, having it not built into the overlay is annoying as well. Having to open a browser tab to look at achievements just feels clunky, and takes awhile to load. I wish it was built into the steam platform.
I'm hoping/expecting that we're going to get a pretty huge overhaul when big tv mode comes out seeing as it's suppose to work better with controllers(right?) Currently it's impossible to view achievements/profiles/whatever with a controller so I'm betting that we get an updated UI(and hopefully a more integrated overlay/not opening the browser) to accommodate this.
 
balladofwindfishes said:
I think if achievements had an arbitrary number applied to them, we wouldn't be able to have events such as the summer camp sale, when dozens of games got new achievements.

Or something like TF2 which has 379 achievements right now and only had 17 to start

Sure you could if the "points" were just based on percentage of achievements complete. When new achievements were added, your overall percentage complete for that game would just automatically go down.
 
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