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[Lissar]

So you thought that Nico was the main character? That's actually interesting to hear but I suppose it makes sense since it's her face on the main cover.

Yeah, I mean I hadn't even heard anything about the game. Only that it was a point and click adventure that everyone said is good, and since I love point and clicks, it only made since for me to play it. Looking at the cover, I didn't really think who might be the main character. It was only because the DC version opened with her that I thought that must be it. When it switched to George, I thought that they would probably switch between them and give them equal time... but that wasn't the case. Oh well, in the end it wasn't a big deal. I just would have liked to see more of her.

 

[Dice]

Save the money for something else. Buy like Witcher or Vampires. Or just wait on other sales for Risen, Witcher 2, etc.

Even something generic but decent like The First Templar.

Edit: Max Payne 1 & 2 on D2D for $3.75... hmmmm... gamepad support?

 

[Sinatar]

Fable 3 is AWFUL. I thoroughly enjoyed the first 2 games but holy hell did they fuck up the 3rd.

It's not worth it at any price, avoid, stay away, do not purchase. You've been warned.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Fable III has some good writing, but it's not a fun game.

 

[XeroSauce]

How is RAGE? Watching gameplay videos makes it look like it'll serve the Fallout itch well until New Vegas DLC goes on sale again.

 

[Snuggles]

Fable 3 sucks. Even if you liked the previous games in the series, you're better off spending your money and time on something else.

 

[Sophuis]

Max Payne 1 & 2 on D2D for $3.75... hmmmm... gamepad support?

What?


What?

 

[Dog Problems]

How is RAGE? Watching gameplay videos makes it look like it'll serve the Fallout itch well until New Vegas DLC goes on sale again.

Very enjoyable. Awesome gunplay, engaging world, fun car battles. But make sure you realize it's a FPS and has very light RPG elements.

 

[mxgt]

Fable 3 is a horrible game, please don't buy it

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I bought Fable 3 near launch and it's pretty damn boring even on the harder difficulty. Looks pretty sometimes, but the framerate is quite shitty. Probably best to avoid.

 

[Sinatar]

Oh and the port for Fable III is complete garbage too. It runs like shit while looking like shit and they never patched it.

 

[XeroSauce]

Very enjoyable. Awesome gunplay, engaging world, fun car battles. But make sure you realize it's a FPS and has very light RPG elements.

I'll take your word for it. I'm fine with FPS, but what is RPG about it, exactly? Skill points? Weapon upgrades?

Fable 3 is AWFUL. I thoroughly enjoyed the first 2 games but holy hell did they fuck up the 3rd.

It's not worth it at any price, avoid, stay away, do not purchase. You've been warned.

Fable III has some good writing, but it's not a fun game.

Fable 3 .. yet another reminder of how badly Peter Molyneux has fallen .. siiiiiigh

No you don't want to buy Fable III. I played it on 360 and it was one of the most insulting titles I played.

-Regenerating health
-No menus, instead you have to tele back to your apartment to switch into whatever you want, same with level uping. It was more of a hassle and confusing than any menu would be.
-About an 8-10 hour quest, with nothing in the way side quests with actual merit.
-Combat was even reduced from 2. Spam is the word.

Save the money for something else. Buy like Witcher or Vampires. Or just wait on other sales for Risen, Witcher 2, etc.

Fable 3 sucks. Even if you liked the previous games in the series, you're better off spending your money and time on something else.

Fable 3 is a horrible game, please don't buy it

I bought Fable 3 near launch and it's pretty damn boring even on the harder difficulty. Looks pretty sometimes, but the framerate is quite shitty. Probably best to avoid.

GAF: Please do not buy Fable 3, now or ever.

 

[Dog Problems]

I'll take your word for it. I'm fine with FPS, but what is RPG about it, exactly? Skill points? Weapon upgrades?

There are sidequests, weapon upgrades, and hub towns with things to do like little mini games and people to talk to. You can also gets items from dead bodies such as ammo, parts to make secondary items, and junk to sell. There's also items laying all around the areas you travel to to pick up. You also visit shops to buy and sell.

 

[Dice]

What?


What?

Let me rephrase that: Do they have gamepad support?

 

[ctrayne]

Let me rephrase that: Do they have gamepad support?

It's not your sentence that disturbs him. It's the "gamepad support" part. Having played both, I can't imagine playing them with a pad, but MP2 was on consoles, so I suppose it would work. No idea on the game's compatibility, though, sorry.

 

[Tanolen]

How is RAGE? Watching gameplay videos makes it look like it'll serve the Fallout itch well until New Vegas DLC goes on sale again.

Pretty great so far, FPS/Car hybrid.

 

[Dice]

Oh for the love of God. Are we saying it's ridiculous for 3RD PERSON shooters to use gamepad now? Really? Just fucking give it up, guys. It's 2011. Your KB/M superiority complex is more embarrassing than people who only play Nintendo.

 

[Tomodachi]

Oh for the love of God. Are we saying it's ridiculous for 3RD PERSON shooters to use gamepad now? Really? Just fucking give it up, guys. It's 2011. Your KB/M superiority complex is more embarrassing than people who only play Nintendo.

Yikes! Someone's got gamepad inferiority complex.

 

[Dice]

I'm just tired of something so utterly commonplace being treated with shock and disdain. What if a person voiced their horror anytime someone mentioned using windowed mode? That's how absurd it is to me. There is zero sense in having any sort of surprise or superiority for control methods.

 

[Dog Problems]

I ended up playing through Rage with a controller because the driving sections didn't feel right with keyboard and mouse to me. Unless you're playing an online shooter, I don't see the big deal in using a controller over a keyboard and mouse.

 

[DisenLedZep]

Oh for the love of God. Are we saying it's ridiculous for 3RD PERSON shooters to use gamepad now? Really? Just fucking give it up, guys. It's 2011. Your KB/M superiority complex is more embarrassing than people who only play Nintendo.

Actually no, the game was design with Kb/M in mind... so, yeah.

 

[nexen]

You guys are really making it hard for me to impulse buy Fable 3 over here.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Heh, Spacechem runs like crap here.

 

[Nabs]

Heh, Spacechem runs like crap here.

how is that possible?

 

[Dice]

Actually no, the game was design with Kb/M in mind... so, yeah.

If that means it uses more buttons than a 360 controller has, it's probably a really shitty game.

 

[Erasus]

Oh for the love of God. Are we saying it's ridiculous for 3RD PERSON shooters to use gamepad now? Really? Just fucking give it up, guys. It's 2011. Your KB/M superiority complex is more embarrassing than people who only play Nintendo.

Its a 3rd person shooter designed for kb&m.

I use a controller for games that where designed for it like, Darksiders or Creed

 

[XeroSauce]

If that means it uses more buttons than a 360 controller has, it's probably a really shitty game.

I was all prepared to defend your use of a controller but then you had to pull that out of your arse.

 

[Dice]

I was all prepared to defend your use of a controller but then you had to pull that out of your arse.

How would it not be true? It's not an RTS.

 

[Smash88]

How would it not be true? It's not an RTS.

Please stop posting, thank you.

 

[Dice]

No thanks, I'd like an actual response as to what makes a controller so vastly inferior. If "it was designed with KB/M in mind" means it would suck on controller, please explain how. What about its particular use of KB/M could not be done on controller? Does it really use that many buttons? Does it somehow do so without being needlessly complex?

You guys are acting like I'm being unreasonable while demonstrating no reason yourselves. Assertions don't make your preference objectively superior.

 

[zkylon]

No thanks, I'd like an actual response as to what makes a controller so vastly inferior. If "it was designed with KB/M in mind" means it would suck on controller, please explain how. What about its particular use of KB/M could not be done on controller? Does it really use that many buttons? Does it somehow do so without being needlessly complex?

You guys are acting like I'm being unreasonable while demonstrating no reason yourselves. Assertions don't make your preference objectively superior.

The game has at least 10 guns, so i imagine that must be awkard to manage in real time on a controller.

 

[blackMamba1187]

At least in the first game you need to be able to aim quickly and accurately. The computer whoops my ass on normal. Guess that's what quick-save is for.

Also, fyi. Neither game runs natively in widescreen. The image gets stretched. Set your graphics card to maintain aspect ratio and use a high 4:3 setting.

 

[LocoMrPollock]

No thanks, I'd like an actual response as to what makes a controller so vastly inferior. If "it was designed with KB/M in mind" means it would suck on controller, please explain how. What about its particular use of KB/M could not be done on controller? Does it really use that many buttons? Does it somehow do so without being needlessly complex?

You guys are acting like I'm being unreasonable while demonstrating no reason yourselves. Assertions don't make your preference objectively superior.

I actually prefer playing MP with controller, it makes it easier to jump around and use bullet time. The game literally uses 4 or 5 buttons anyway. Shoot, jump, reload, switch weapon and bullet time.

It also burns a little that the xbox ports have proper widescreen and the PC version never got it. Not even any hacks.

 

[SapientWolf]

No thanks, I'd like an actual response as to what makes a controller so vastly inferior. If "it was designed with KB/M in mind" means it would suck on controller, please explain how. What about its particular use of KB/M could not be done on controller? Does it really use that many buttons? Does it somehow do so without being needlessly complex?

You guys are acting like I'm being unreasonable while demonstrating no reason yourselves. Assertions don't make your preference objectively superior.

Max Payne was originally balanced around the aiming capabilities of the mouse. I imagine that it would be a great bit more difficult and slower paced with a gamepad. But for some people, that actually may be desirable.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

You're all nuts. The correct method of playing PC games is beating a 20 button greased trackball with a 10' fiberglass pole by candlelight while naked with war paint and fertilizer smeared all over your torso and head with the theme to What's Happening Now!! playing at max volume in the background.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

What the hell is going on in here?

 

[Pimpbaa]

Fable 3 is a horrible game, please don't buy it

The pc version is a bad port too.

 

[Dice]

You're all nuts. The correct method of playing PC games is beating a 20 button greased trackball with a 10' fiberglass pole by candlelight while naked with war paint and fertilizer smeared all over your torso and head with the theme to What's Happening Now!! playing at max volume in the background.

Perfect avatar quote moment. Alas...

What the hell is going on in here?

The second major battle of the age.

 

[Gvaz]

Fable 3 is AWFUL. I thoroughly enjoyed the first 2 games but holy hell did they fuck up the 3rd.

It's not worth it at any price, avoid, stay away, do not purchase. You've been warned.

I agree with this one MILLION percent.

Oh for the love of God. Are we saying it's ridiculous for 3RD PERSON shooters to use gamepad now? Really? Just fucking give it up, guys. It's 2011. Your KB/M superiority complex is more embarrassing than people who only play Nintendo.

Some third person games are bad with the gamepad, others feel fine. It's all in the design.

Deal with it.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

The second major battle of the age.

Well far be it from me to try to step in and make peace... wait, no that's exactly what I do in this situation.

Look the big problem is that the guy who initially quoted you was a bit of a dick about it. As someone who plays everything with a controller from the couch, I'd probably skip the first Max Payne rather than play it with a controller just because there is a lot of pixel-perfect shooting required, and the game is balanced around it.

That said I'd definitely give it a try with something like XPadder or JoyToKey and see how it goes, it couldn't hurt at all right?

Anyway, here's a GIF of some kittens turning on a vacuum cleaner:

 

[Htown]

No thanks, I'd like an actual response as to what makes a controller so vastly inferior. If "it was designed with KB/M in mind" means it would suck on controller, please explain how. What about its particular use of KB/M could not be done on controller? Does it really use that many buttons? Does it somehow do so without being needlessly complex?

You guys are acting like I'm being unreasonable while demonstrating no reason yourselves. Assertions don't make your preference objectively superior.

Shooters control better with keyboard and mouse. Period. Aiming is faster, smoother and more accurate. This is not arguable.

 

[xenoflux2113]

Anyway, here's a GIF of some kittens turning on a vacuum cleaner:

You're the best!

 

[Gully State]

Yeah, I mean I hadn't even heard anything about the game. Only that it was a point and click adventure that everyone said is good, and since I love point and clicks, it only made since for me to play it. Looking at the cover, I didn't really think who might be the main character. It was only because the DC version opened with her that I thought that must be it. When it switched to George, I thought that they would probably switch between them and give them equal time... but that wasn't the case. Oh well, in the end it wasn't a big deal. I just would have liked to see more of her.

The sequel switches a lot between George and Nico.

 

[Nabs]

It took me about 20 seconds to create a controller config for MP1.

 

[Des0lar]

I dare anyone here admit that he bought Fable 3.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Shooters control better with keyboard and mouse. Period. Aiming is faster, smoother and more accurate. This is not arguable.

Making this statement outside the safety of this thread will lead to you quickly discovering just exactly how arguable it is.

You're the best!

Don't thank me, thank kittens for being so freaking awesome.

 

[stuminus3]

What?

Please don't do this. PC GAF is generally above this, we don't need to devolve the Steam thread into the same old silly, irrelevant argument about input devices.

PC gaming isn't about superior M/KB skills. It's about playing your games however you want to.

 

[Zimbardo]

Shooters control better with keyboard and mouse. Period. Aiming is faster, smoother and more accurate. This is not arguable.

i often will play the single player campaign of a shooter with the xbox pad (if its supported).

multiplayer though ...i NEED the mouse/keyboard.


(Love PC ...love the fact that i have some choice in the matter of how i want to play my games)

 

[Gvaz]

Making this statement outside the safety of this thread will lead to you quickly discovering just exactly how arguable it is.

He's right though, it really isn't arguable. The top 5% of console shooters against the average pc shooters and stick them together and you'll get something that's close to fair. Take professional fps players from the pc and stick them against the top percentile console shooters and you will have a massacre.

Now, can you control fps games fine with a controller? Sure you can. But don't kid yourself in thinking it isn't subpar in comparison.

That's the great thing about PCs though, choose whatever is most comfortable for you. At the end of the day, that's what matters more I think.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

He's right though, it really isn't arguable. The top 5% of console shooters against the average pc shooters and stick them together and you'll get something that's close to fair. Take professional fps players from the pc and stick them against the top percentile console shooters and you will have a massacre.

Now, can you control fps games fine with a controller? Sure you can. But don't kid yourself in thinking it isn't subpar in comparison.

That's the great thing about PCs though, choose whatever is most comfortable for you. At the end of the day, that's what matters more I think.

Whoah, slow down friend. If you read that link roughly 75% of that thread is me getting abused by people for saying exactly that. Not that I'm complaining, I give as good as I get.